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  1. #1
    Watching from above Negata is offline
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    Do you think this section is in order?

    I just see repeated questions and more repeated questions. But how do you users feel, should something be done here? If so, what? If you were a mod, what would you do, and how much time could you devote to keeping this section clean?

    If the result of poll expects that, I'll pick one of the best posters on a moderating trial here.

    No ass-kissing and only truthful promises!


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    i think u should put "kindaf" as an option though
    but i think the section is good as it is
    the major problm is the noobs if theres a noob section for noob questions post them there do go post them in other threads...
    have u checked Hero's 1711 share thread ?
    its noob infested, almost every page is started with a noob question
    (oh help help help damn wrong hexid cant connect to login server)
    dont ban me plzz but this is the truth
    (i see giant rabbits everywhere)
    use search da,mn it thats been posted ike a 100 times already

    personally i dont think theres a solution u cant change ppl only themselves can
    unless u start banning ppl and spamers all of a sudden.
    bang bang have a nice day^^
    Last edited by 66nightmare66; 15-09-06 at 12:09 PM.

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    OLDER BRO matrixane is offline
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    Yea .. now is more specific for download..and have much noob post in all places. Need more respect for all zones for post ^^

    SAME POSTS
    DOUBLE POST
    SAME QUESTION IN OTHER POST

    AND MUCH MORE POST IN OTHER PLACES

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    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled! Hero1711 is offline
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    Hm...that's so hard because of their thought, you can stick the Rules everywhere but they won't read that. Maybe they need to write an e-mail and send to every supermod or admin to be able to join Ragezone (send them the rules and let them write about rules). In the other hand, we need to clean all useless posts or topics and stick important posts or topics. Some people are not good at English, so we can make some translate versions of the important posts to their languages (using google translate or yahoo babelfish). Every release must include a "README.txt" or "guide.txt" to help newbies.
    These're my opinions. :D
    Last edited by Hero1711; 15-09-06 at 02:08 PM.

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    Moved on Tobywan is offline
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    I say be tougher with the rules... Delete newb posts/topics without warning.
    Considering the ammount of active users in this part of the forum it would take forever to help/edit/warn every newb.
    Force them to read the rules and ban the ones that don't.
    Maybe im being to hard... but im sick of ppl that can't use search or make proper post.
    Me and a few of my friends are actually thinking about leaving RZ cuz of all the damn "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPPP PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ" shit posts.

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    Valued Member Evets is offline
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    My 2 cents.

    In the Newbie Help Center the post should start with a [HELP]-Problem when its solvend rename to [Solved]-Problem.
    In that way u get a better struction in the help section i know that the [HELP] is there already but not the [Solved] so could be a start to implant that..

    When someone creat a Help thread could be usefull if you implant something like.

    ServerBase:
    Database:
    Version:


    Clean up the Sections/Rename and put up some more sections to relieve the pressure from some.
    Ex:

    L2J Client Modding
    L2J Packet Releases
    L2J Guides
    L2J Newbie Secion / Help / Support
    L2J Custom / Script
    etc.......

    Maybe a Foreign languages Sections could be a good ide to make to. ^_^
    Try to get some guys to work on make RageZone Guides in the Guide section for you..

    I can keep go on and on.. There is tons of stuff to make it look fresh and work better.

    Hope that some of my ideas can help you out ^_^
    Last edited by Evets; 15-09-06 at 03:59 PM. Reason: Came up with a new idea ^^

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    Proficient Member stylix is offline
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    i think we should re-order the sub-forums
    and cles up all un used double posts/topics,
    ex: topics with the same question etc..

    then re-order sub forums to :
    -Client edit's
    -Severpacks
    -NPC's
    -Scripts
    -SQL
    -help section
    etc etc...

    then we should add some ranks like newb(for newb-q askers)
    add a rank spammer for the spammers ofcourse etc etc..

    no hating :juggle:

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    Omega TriumpH is offline
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    i think there shoud be working mods and a new rule-set for the forums
    + redesign but that takes time and energy and a one person or maybe 2 person army can not do it

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    U should enable the sub forums as Stylix said ... but u'll need new mods on each1 or the actual mods to controlle it... Of corse the user r incontrolable: spammer, newbyes, (noobs that can't read a thread cuz r lazy) etc etc.

    Here is my "config" for l2j:
    ############################################################

    • Releases:
      • ServerPacks: only server packs and a mod to controle/clean (spammers, noob questions etc)
      • Scripts Addons (Server related: Html, xml, sql) all codes in here with a nice and clean description
      • Apps


    • Client Side:
      • Textures
      • Maps
      • items, etc...

      In here I'm totally noob cuz I've never modded a client ...

    • NewBye Zone:
      • Faqs
      • Guides ( only the checked1
      • etc(more things to add in here)

    • (optional) Strangers Zone:
      L2 Suport in non-english languages... i'm still thinkin 'on this, i'm not sure about, since RZ in engl ^^ ( but I can give support in spanish and romanian)

    • "General" Zone:
      All threads in here that will be moved to their place or delete them(in case)

    ############################################################
    Another thing is the access for all those who don't obay the rules: ban on sections ( I don't know if vb has that function)

    A solution to spam on the thred it might be that the thred starter have the permisions to delete posts on his thred. and so any could controle all messages. again i dunno if there is hack for this.

    And for last but the most important thing is what hero1711 said.. THE RULES we have to respect them ALL OF US..

    Hope this will help a litle for a proper administration of this section.

    GL!

    Ps: Make this sticky until so every1 can see it
    Last edited by -KaTHoO-; 16-09-06 at 12:41 AM.

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    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled! -KaTHoO- is offline
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    Double posting reason:

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    Watching from above Negata is offline
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    Re-organizing isn't something that's easily done so I think we'll stick to increasing manpower in this section. TriumpH has recommended Hero1711 for mod here, does anyone object? There may be more needed, given that we already had lack of mods here before Lord_Eragon was booted.

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    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled! -KaTHoO- is offline
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    Hero1711 is one of those who can help in forum moderation not only for he's knowlloge...

    What can I do.. well what we all can do is to report bad posts and so help the moderators.

    Although U have to stablish a structure so we can know where to post, where to ask for help etc etc.

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    Simplify Your Mind Lithium is offline
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    Hello,
    I had alot of different problems in the last time, alot comp problems school and someother stuff.

    As I see now there is only 3 mods left, shame :/ I will be able to work on the forums again now. Though I lost alot of time and I'm not "updated" with what is going on with L2J..

    TriumpH said New rules, what for? sure we can make new but if members do not obey the old one that Neutrogenik and me worked on them (Neutoro's work most of it..) so much time..

    I think some spare hands to work on the forums would help too,
    I don't know Hero1711, but if Triumph recommended him so why not to give him a try. Shame all other gone :/

    Anyway, I'm here now.

    Edit: oh the sections were changed... hmm
    2nd edit: Hmm I don't like it, all mixed up now, now we will need to search all 'share' threads and make a thread with links to them or something.. :/ I wonder why did you do it...
    Last edited by Lithium; 18-09-06 at 11:57 AM.

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    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled! -KaTHoO- is offline
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    I'll try to help by reporting al share threads... or tell me how can I help u guys

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    Proficient Member stylix is offline
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    i can put time in cleaning up old topics / re organzing forums ..

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    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled! darien385 is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Negata View Post
    Re-organizing isn't something that's easily done so I think we'll stick to increasing manpower in this section. TriumpH has recommended Hero1711 for mod here, does anyone object? There may be more needed, given that we already had lack of mods here before Lord_Eragon was booted.
    Bumping this so we can get some more help around here.


    Sounds like forum structure will not change. So I won't comment on that aspect.
    That only leaves moving posts to an appropriate area, and closing the repetitious ones. Anyone with half a brain can do that.
    I would rather see Lord Eragon back as a Mod before Hero1711 was made one.
    Reason -- remember Greenhope? As soon as his pack was no longer popular he lost interest in the forums and left the RZ team hanging. Do we want the same all over again?
    Forum Mods should be impartial and not pack specific. Playing favorites can and does lead to problems. How many threads did GH close only to improve the responses to his pack?

    Please Negata, make some decisions soon. Some of us are getting tired of the current kiddie city environment.

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    Valued Member JTG2003 is offline
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    I agree. A seperate section for all the guides to go in would be helpful (have em all stickied). There are many good guides out there but none of them are seen because they all die off.

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    Proficient Member Eragon is offline
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    Not much going on here, talking about the modship.

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    Sorry to break the bumping rule, but many would agree that this is needed and LONG overdue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobywan View Post
    I say be tougher with the rules... Delete newb posts/topics without warning.
    Considering the ammount of active users in this part of the forum it would take forever to help/edit/warn every newb.
    Force them to read the rules and ban the ones that don't.
    Maybe im being to hard... but im sick of ppl that can't use search or make proper post.
    Me and a few of my friends are actually thinking about leaving RZ cuz of all the damn "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPPP PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ" shit posts.
    No, this is not a good idea!
    You was a noob, too. But now u learned a lot and know a lot things.
    Dont delete newbie questions without warning!

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    Proficient Member Eragon is offline
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    seams that his mather got forgotten up at the higher rankns

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    I'm a new user here, so obviously I don't have the desire to mod. Although I do have the exp of being one. Regardless, here's my point-of-view on this forum being a new user that desires to "learn" and "share". I'm not one of the question repeating, non-searching guys. So, maybe it'll be a useful opinion. The repeated posts are (mostly) people trying to learn that are too anxious to get things done, hence they don't bother searching. This is a good thing because if we help them they may actually learn something, it's also a problem because not everyone is trying to learn, they just want what they want now, instead of waiting. My best opinion on managing this is to move there topic to the noob section, don't delete it. I've been learning plenty here, and I've heard about this forum being full of noob users, and noob moderators. To an extent it's true, because it's not managed properly, mostly due to the size of the forum. It is a good learning place for the noobs though, so it should stay that way imo. Send those noobs to any other L2J community and they won't have anything happen but bashing/flaming, and they'd eventually give up. It's a good community here already, and I'm glad to see some changes may be made. Good luck.



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