Is Antrix real the right stuff for a working server?`, Antrix lots of bugs...

[OSP]

Hi all out there!

I have a lots of questions about Antrix.

First to introduce me - I'm a Player on a free Realm, which updated now to the Antrix Emulator - before we've got Mangos with it's latest revision. I'm playing there since one and a half year and it was great there since Antrix came. I've also setup some Emu's on my own server system. Tried some stuff like Quests, Jobs and so on. And sorry for my bad english - I'm from germany ^^

Here's a little list of the Bugs (We've found already about 123 errors... in the Antrix Emu)

1. Duel's - When somebody asks me for a Duel - the client crashes...
2. Only the loot function "everyone against everyone" (i think this is it in englisch (jeder gegen jeden)) works - all other does not
3. The job "fishing" doesn't work
4. Everytime, when a leader leaves a group all "group member's clients" crash with an wow 132 error
5. When the group member leaves the group, the client of this member crashes with an wow 132 error
6. When you jump in the water your breath turns again to full
7. When your bags are full and you end a quest, the reward is lost - there's no query if your bags are full
8. When you've learned cooking you can't cast a campfire
9. skinning doesn't work over 75 skill points
10. every teacher learne's you the "master" degree of every job for free
11. every time a mob uses a skill on you, as a warrior - you've been kicked out of your stance or your buff is gone
12. much other bugs... on our realm with the latest db and the latest Antrix Revision now 124 bugs

What can you say about - is it possible, that this Emu doesn't is at a final stadium at the moment?

Is it possible, that these nasty bugs got fixed in a few days, weeks, months or does it take more than a year to make everything ****like?

What do you think - what is better - Mangos or Antrix?

Thanks for answers - please don't close this post, for an entire Server with about 1000 active account this decision is urgent.

Thanks a lot for all answers!

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[MentaL]

[mastercheem]

Although I don't know much about Antrix I just recently got into making a private server. I've never used ManGos, but it does seem like Antrix is new and it going to take a little while to work some kinks out.

[single64]

i tried antrix, indeed lots of bugs

[XSavi]

I am running antrix now too, and ofcourse there are a lot of bugs. You didn'teven mention outlands it crap.

But the guys from silvermoon are making servers with mangos and antrix in the future. So i hope progress will go fast from now on :)

[Algren_San]

there is so many people pushing rz server admins to use Antrix, my advice wait 1 and a half year and then you can change if you want, mangos could crash time to time with more than 120 people online but at least it does not give you client error, Antrix now looks like WaD WoW emu....

My opinion Antrix Right now SUX as hell and it will take REALLY long before it really works as mangos does.

Mangos Bunch of people Reporting making updates Etc
Antrix 2 or 1 People Fixing the source, buch of people reporting bugs and the 70% of them does not know what are they talking about.... so it will take damn to long to be really fixed

But the choise its yours, want to go back when Wad wowemu start be my guest, antrix now its the same thing.

before you think about something NEW think about something that works, i only see people pushing others to use antrix there is some people that even Stop compiling Mangos just to give it a boost to the Antrix and thats just lame...

once again its the way i think...

[nzomike]

Lol.

Client crashes are cause of WoW Client. Connect to official server and you will get a patch

[Emrys]

Main reason why RZ went antrix was cause of the server load. There were just too many people on for Mangos to manage. It happened with WoWEMU, then we went MaNGOS just the same with Antrix. Its either having a 3rd of the community play or the entire community with a load of bugs. Personally I don't think the decision should be that hard. :)

[Karnage]

As Emrys said.... antrix has really good stability.... so for a server with 200+ players antrix is a big step up in wow emulation.

However.... in terms of playability it is not superior. DB is no way near upto the standard of a mangos db... the antrix DB might have "blizz" spawns and stuff.... but who cares if its got blizz spawns? Whats needed is quests and mobs with correct stats... and antrix DB doesnt have that. In terms of the core... many spells/talents are broken which work in mangos. Mangos now has working Walls which is a huge thing.

Karn

[Zero2Fear]

Maybe if the both parties, Mangos and Antrix work together? Antrix's stability and Mangos's DB, both can work perfect along eachother if they want.

Just my 2 cents :)

[Darkicon]

Antrix is pretty buggy, but in my opinion it kicks MaNGOS' ass.

MaNGOS Problems (Which Antrix does not have):
- No doors.
- Horrible dungeon spawns (Including objects).
- Guards do not attack mobs that are too close.
- A lot of spells don't work.
- Flying mounts don't work.
- Skills disappear when you logout/login.
- Spell damage doesn't work (Including a lot of other attributes).
- Can enter a raid without being in a raid.
- Pets don't work.
- Skinning does not work.
- Enchanting does not work.
- Trade skill trainers teach recipes (IE, ones that drop, or you buy).
- Many more...

Antrix Problems (Which MaNGOS does not have):
- "antrix.exe" crashes if you make it process too much.
- Crashes on a lot of occasions.
- Skill trainers often bug out.
- Skill trainers teach higher than they should.
- Cannot seem to enter Outland instances/raids.
- Logging in is often buggy.

I agree with Zero2Fear, MaNGOS and Antrix should work together. Both have aspects which they do good, and bad. If they work together they can solve all their problems.

[Algren_San]

Antrix is pretty buggy, but in my opinion it kicks MaNGOS' ass.

MaNGOS Problems (Which Antrix does not have):
- No doors.
- Horrible dungeon spawns (Including objects).
- Guards do not attack mobs that are too close.
- A lot of spells don't work.
- Flying mounts don't work.
- Skills disappear when you logout/login.
- Spell damage doesn't work (Including a lot of other attributes).
- Can enter a raid without being in a raid.
- Pets don't work.
- Skinning does not work.
- Enchanting does not work.
- Trade skill trainers teach recipes (IE, ones that drop, or you buy).
- Many more...

Antrix Problems (Which MaNGOS does not have):
- "antrix.exe" crashes if you make it process too much.
- Crashes on a lot of occasions.
- Skill trainers often bug out.
- Skill trainers teach higher than they should.
- Cannot seem to enter Outland instances/raids.
- Logging in is often buggy.

I agree with Zero2Fear, MaNGOS and Antrix should work together. Both have aspects which they do good, and bad. If they work together they can solve all their problems.

i have to correct you on this:
MaNGOS Problems (Which Antrix does not have):
- No doors. (Vmap they worked on te walls and it really works)
- Horrible dungeon spawns (Including objects). Thats DB issue not mangos core and so far i try it it was ok
- Guards do not attack mobs that are too close. they do when they come really close Like if agro its at 0.5
- A lot of spells don't work. db related no core related and the 85% does work
- Flying mounts don't work. it does work long time ago...
- Skills disappear when you logout/login. not happening you should try getting the real one DBC's
- Spell damage doesn't work (Including a lot of other attributes). O_o they do as i said 85% of the skills are correct
- Can enter a raid without being in a raid. you can create a raid, create leaders, remove them joing etc, as i said before you haven't set them up correctly.
- Pets don't work. agree you can tame thats like 10% they attack and etc but its not 100% blizz like.
- Skinning does not work. not sure about that.
- Enchanting does not work. it does work
- Trade skill trainers teach recipes (IE, ones that drop, or you buy). not sure what you mean...
- Many more... many more that are related to db issue and that are quickly solved

and by the bugs you mention about antrix i wont even try it lol i about 9 months more thats tooooooo damn buggy.

[anubizthot]

i tried too .. but crash too much.. i stick whit mangos for a while until antrix gets better

[Darkicon]

i have to correct you on this:
MaNGOS Problems (Which Antrix does not have):
- No doors. (Vmap they worked on te walls and it really works)
- Horrible dungeon spawns (Including objects). Thats DB issue not mangos core and so far i try it it was ok
- Guards do not attack mobs that are too close. they do when they come really close Like if agro its at 0.5
- A lot of spells don't work. db related no core related and the 85% does work
- Flying mounts don't work. it does work long time ago...
- Skills disappear when you logout/login. not happening you should try getting the real one DBC's
- Spell damage doesn't work (Including a lot of other attributes). O_o they do as i said 85% of the skills are correct
- Can enter a raid without being in a raid. you can create a raid, create leaders, remove them joing etc, as i said before you haven't set them up correctly.
- Pets don't work. agree you can tame thats like 10% they attack and etc but its not 100% blizz like.
- Skinning does not work. not sure about that.
- Enchanting does not work. it does work
- Trade skill trainers teach recipes (IE, ones that drop, or you buy). not sure what you mean...
- Many more... many more that are related to db issue and that are quickly solved

and by the bugs you mention about antrix i wont even try it lol i about 9 months more thats tooooooo damn buggy.

All the bugs I wrote were from the MaNGOS that DJRavine posted for v2.10.0. By "Spell Damage" I meant the attribute you would see under "Spells" in the character pane. When you equip an item with +spell damage, it stays at 0, and does not seem to effect spell damage from spells.

For the trade skills thing, I'll try to explain it a little more clearly. Trainers only teach you some recipes, while others are dropped, or you buy them from a vendor, in MaNGOS they teach you ever one, regardless of how you are supposed to get it.

In the MaNGOS that I was using, enchanting recipes that are 300+ did not seem to work, you would always get the error that you don't have the the Runed whatever Wand.

As for all those problems, they aren't core related problems, so yeah they really don't apply, lol.

[killerxx2]

~Mangos~
Has an amazing database but dose tend to crash a lot most of the compiles are not official they have been hacked up to do what they want (ruins stability)
Also Emu Is stuck in 2.0.12 hasn't been updated unlike antrix were i can have 10 ppl on the server and it lags on my home connection

~Kobold~
Amazing Emulator Superior Stability Just Really needs to be open source with no player cap if so i will admit i would be sticking with it for the fact we have had 20 people on my home connection with vary little lag (talking about 180 lat highest) i had heard people say they build there own log on server for it to get rid of player cap but my guess was it compromised stability

~WoWemu~
one comment
my sister could get this server working without my help amazingly easy to set up but needed some serious work to fix a lot of things if i remember wowscape had a lot of luck with it

~Antrix~
You say there are a lot of bugs
have u been keeping up with the revisions? a lot have been fixed in the short amount of time i mean there rev 144 has been running great will be updating the core soon here
they are weak with there db but the mmorpg4free db is a great db to start with then put it up and bug fix

[FamineMK]

From what I understand, Antrix really isn't a new project. Its a "New" project meaning that is has been released to the public recently. So for what its worth, here are my 2 cents.

Without a DB being regularly updated and available to the community to work with, you could have the most stable project on Earth and it wouldn't mean a thing. The way I see it, I'll make the move to the Antrix project (Which by the way I couldn't compile till like revision 80 or so due to the fact I run VS2005) when I get a reliable DB with a structure similar to SDB. PSM didn't impress me much. There were duplicate, and sometimes even triplicate items in the DB that I used when MaNGOS finally officially supported TBC, and I havn't had a chance to go back and check it out again.

Mangos has some community issues right now that they seem to want to air publicly. Recently they did a roll back to earlier revisions after a disgruntled coder requested his work be taken off the project (instead of doing this in their chat rooms, they fought on the forums and even stickied the thread). They however have CLOSED a whole bunch of memory holes that existed and the client is more stable than ever.

I see the emu community as a whole being a fad of sorts. So I am not about to say I'm going to stick to one server over another... I am however going to say that a PS was never really meant to house 200+ people. If you wanted to "Compete" with Blizzard, you're fooling yourself. Your time is better spent pitching a new idea to some financial backers and going from there. A PS WAS meant for slackers to go around beating some stuff up that they would otherwise never be able to see in the game. A small community of word of mouth players. Nothing more.

[tr4shm4n]

All projects have there own problems so pick the one you like and stick with it and then try to fix up the things when you know how . Thats realy all you can do . And indd PS never ment top be huge comunetys but that happens evry now and then you know and then people would like to have there whole comunety online when it is posble so for big comunetys antrix is fine . For smaller ones i prefer mangos ATM that is .

[BaHkA7a]

I love antrix ,but the bugs are TERRIBLE!Bug everyone can have only 1 buff....?!?!Or trainers who's Train & Give Quest at the same time - DON'T TRAIN!Only give the Quest...Or if you speak too many with vendors - Click,you can't speak with them .Undercity- you can't exit!The elevator is the most funny thing i find. O.x .Sry for that report,but i can't belive - Only 1 buff or curse...When some 1 curse me...i give myself buff and the curse go away.O M G!

[aceindy]

I think you people should try to differentiate between database and emulator bugs.

I notice a lot of time cores are blamed for database errors, even when core-developers clearly mentioned that database issues are not their concern (so stop blaming them for it!)

Now, if you report a bug, you should report database bugs to database-developers, and core bugs to core-developers, simple like that :)
Too bad very few people know how to make difference between them, but guess that's what you get with a scene consisting of 95% leechers :(

[tr4shm4n]

I think you people should try to differentiate between database and emulator bugs.

I notice a lot of time cores are blamed for database errors, even when core-developers clearly mentioned that database issues are not their concern (so stop blaming them for it!)

Now, if you report a bug, you should report database bugs to database-developers, and core bugs to core-developers, simple like that :)
Too bad very few people know how to make difference between them, but guess that's what you get with a scene consisting of 95% leechers :(

I could not agree more ;) Totaly right there . And when people so conserned bout those bugs Antrix as well as mangos are open sorse get the code and start fixxing things then by yourself . I can't do it becose i dunno c++ but i also dint realy try anything YET . For shure i will give it an go one of this days to see if i can fix some things ;)

[merzliakov]

All the bugs I wrote were from the MaNGOS that DJRavine posted for v2.10.0. By "Spell Damage"

Oh, yes. Select build for unsupported officially client version based at some modified in strange way non-official sources of mangos where many broken and compare with build base official non-modified source of antrix and compare. This make comparison pointless. If you want real comparison then compare builds based at official sources.