AMD Six core or the Intel i5

[yjlasher22]

Rish made it.

Well if your sole purpose is gaming or you are on a tight budget, then get an amd core. Anything below the i5 760 is not worth it imo and AMDs usually are better bang for buck chips at the lower end of the market.

Plus as said, the bottleneck usually isn't the CPU so I say you get a better graphics cards seeing you are using a nvidia 450..

[Warmonger]

Ah this Warmonger guy again. He's spouting bullshit everywhere I see him, and he can't give facts to support his claims. It almost even looks like, in this case, he's comparing GHz? I'd lol for days if that's the case.

@ that 965BE, that shit is old, when it came out the 920 (which was cheaper than it, btw) was wiping the floor with it in EVERY benchmark -- and the 965 sucks almost as much power as an i7 extreme at that. It's just a POS AMD quad that's been clocked for you to suck more juice to keep the tip of its head above water in the competition.

AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition Processor Review - Sandra 2009 Memory Bandwidth - Legit Reviews

Review showing this, even if it is a bit mislead -- modern games are mostly GPU-bound and bottlenecked and don't tend to evenly use all available features in CPUs like benchmarks do. Also, that ram kit is fucking terrible. I surely hope nobody has ever taken your word when making a new PC.

It's cool that you're comparing a 95-146W i5 and a 135-242W X4. Even the reviews show that at that big a wattage lead it is still losing, badly. Wow, that's hilarious.

Just get the fuck out, please. We don't need fanboys throwing around bullshit, and we don't need morons that are mostly clueless either.

Reported.

And yes you are one of the several other fanboys who are spewing your nonsence in this thread I feel sorry for the OP, be happy with the i5 but I laugh in comparison. I don't have the time to break the facts down, to show you the disassemble of each die piece by piece and understand whats going on under the hood. I suggest you and a few other check out a few of my communities and learn a thing or two.

Greetz

[yjlasher22]

[Solved] Intel i5-760 vs AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE - CPUs - CPU-Components
Phenom 965BE vs i5 760! - TechSpot OpenBoards
Phenom II X4 965 vs Core i5 760 - CPUs - CPU-Components

i5 760 vs 1055T - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
Phenom II 1055T X6 vs i5 Quad 760 - CPUs - CPU-Components


Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

If you look at the performance of the i5 it actually trades blows with the 965 and loses out only because of its lower clock speeds, which can easily be rectified with its insane overclocking ability. Couple that with huge power savings compared to the AMD chips and less heat.

And as you can see, most people recommend the i5 as the way to go.

[HackHeaven]

Go with the cheaper one or the one u want most :P

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[Solved] Intel i5-760 vs AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE - CPUs - CPU-Components
Phenom 965BE vs i5 760! - TechSpot OpenBoards
Phenom II X4 965 vs Core i5 760 - CPUs - CPU-Components

i5 760 vs 1055T - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
Phenom II 1055T X6 vs i5 Quad 760 - CPUs - CPU-Components


Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

If you look at the performance of the i5 it actually trades blows with the 965 and loses out only because of its lower clock speeds, which can easily be rectified with its insane overclocking ability. Couple that with huge power savings compared to the AMD chips and less heat.

And as you can see, most people recommend the i5 as the way to go.

Kinda sure AMD is in the one with less power and heat not intel and ATI run cooler then nvida gpus

[MentaL]

i5 for me soon then.

[yjlasher22]

Kinda sure AMD is in the one with less power and heat not intel and ATI run cooler then nvida gpus

The intel chip runs cooler and with less power

And we're comparing processors not GPUs

[HackHeaven]

I think your wrong AMD has Q&C init i know i read somewhere that it was less power used and less heat output
Maybe it was wrong?

[yjlasher22]

Why don't you get some evidence about it and post it here. Mines inside the chart above. The i5 has a lower TDP than the 965.

[VisualSeven]

God damn this is a hard choice but the overclock that rish has on his i5 is amazing and runs at very great temp i heard when u overclock the amd they run pretty damn hot.

[yjlasher22]

Well if you are overclocking then get the i5 and a good aftermarket cooler.

[VisualSeven]

Well if you are overclocking then get the i5 and a good aftermarket cooler.

Well if i overclock the most its going to be is to level it at 3.0GHz-3.1GHz

[.Yoss.]

If I were you and wanted to buy a processor right now then I'd spend more on the processor since you aren't going to buy a gfx card. But IMO you should wait till the new processors from intel & amd come out and see how that goes. Sandy Bridge processors are just around the corner, so just wait a little and make a decision next year if it's not that urgent.

I think your wrong AMD has Q&C init i know i read somewhere that it was less power used and less heat output

You probably read that in a review about the new brazos processors which are not desktop parts.

[yjlasher22]

good point. Sandy bridge processors are just round the corner and it seems that they perform better.

[penihop]

None of that entire post is true. None at all.
Intel has been leading for over 7 years now, AMD hasn't had anything better as far as value or performance is concerned since the first release of the Athlon 64.

If there was no AMD, i guess your i5 would cost about $2000+ right now, but wait it won't even exist. Let's not forget that AMD invented the "Hyper-Threading" and sold it to intel, few of you may remember this. The only good thing intel came up with was the first Microprocessor.

Let me also point out that yes SOME i5's are in fact dual cores with hyper threading, but everything above the i5 750 IS an actual quad core. Sure low-end gaming is absolutely dominated by low-priced AMD setups, but that's all it is; a low-end setup.

i'd have to agree. but we must not replace cheap with low-end.

Overclockers, performance enthusiasts and bechmarkers have been avoiding AMD like the black plague for quite a few years now, you really need to keep yourself up to speed. In fact, there is not a single AMD chip on the top 100 PCMark benchmark scores. That's as far as the general search would go, but i am willing to bet it's closer to 500.

I would say that in another way: Intel has been paying and continues to pay enthusiasts,benchmarkers and companies to test,overclock and sell their products much more than AMD does. also AMD has some real nice 3DMark scores, now read THIS thing.

I can tell you right now, my i5 760 will out-perform ANY consumer level AMD chip. That is not a challenge, that is a promise.

Sounds nice, try Cinebench in Phenom II X6 1075T, and then try it on your stock i5 760.
This AMD processor right now is few bucks cheaper.

Now, i am not actually hating Intel that much, i actually have a PC with intel processor, they are not bad, just overpriced.

[Rishwin]

If there was no AMD, i guess your i5 would cost about $2000+ right now, but wait it won't even exist. Let's not forget that AMD invented the "Hyper-Threading" and sold it to intel, few of you may remember this. The only good thing intel came up with was the first Microprocessor.

I have absolutely no idea what you're saying in that first sentence.

So what if they invented hyper-threading? The Phenom II Has 6 cores and 6 threads, while the i7 has 6 cores and 12 threads. Fact of the matter is; The i5's run faster, cooler, and more efficiently than the AMD chips do.

I would say that in another way: Intel has been paying and continues to pay enthusiasts,benchmarkers and companies to test,overclock and sell their products much more than AMD does. also AMD has some real nice 3DMark scores, now read THIS thing.

3DMark scores are primarily based on the GFX, it is a graphics benchmark. PCMark on the other hand is a complete system benchmark.

At the time of writing this, i currently hold the #1 PCMark Vantage score for an Intel Core i5 chip. I'm not being paid by anyone. The highest AMD result, is a mere 300 points higher than my score, and i WILL beat it after I've tweaked my system and increased the overclock.

In case you lost track, that's an i5 760 beating the highest recorded PCMark score for a 6-core AMD chip.

Sounds nice, try Cinebench in Phenom II X6 1075T, and then try it on your stock i5 760.
This AMD processor right now is few bucks cheaper.

My i5 isn't stock, it runs @ 4.2Ghz. Will be upping that to 4.6Ghz within the week. Additionally, we are talking about GAMING performance.