AMD Vs Intel! Witch is better?

[NoPeace]

Or unless you do what I do alot of.. running up large amounts of data crunching numbers/graphics, hosting numerous servers, and all that mumbo jumbo.. I've actually hit the full 3gig mark allowed by windows before ;)

Lol... The only time I hit that area is in school when we are running a virutal network on a single computer. But then again having 6 virtual OS running with in an OS does take up alot of RAM. But then again. Are we the average PC user? =P

The only thing to benefit from 4gb that I know of is a few RTS games.

Im still waiting fully on making the mov eto 64 bit windows professional.. still some driver issues runnign it, it is much faster then standard windows, and it allows all 4g to be used by system processes, and not reserve a gig for PCI components and whatever else windows throws into it.

I would avoid XP 64 to buggy and of course driver issues and not to mention 32-bit apps run like shit on it. Server 2003 64-bit is better but even less driver support. While Vista 64 is actually quite good. 32-bit runs just fine and there isn't to many bugs. And over all perform fells better then 32-bit unlike XP 64.

My wife has it and it's a great OS. And not to mention DX10 support for that 8800 of yours. ;)

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[Sardaukar]

Oof.. hah, sort of a joke.. yeah, DX10 support, and no, no proper driver support ;) -llaughs- I thought it funny when various review sites werent able to benchmark any 8800's in the Vista OS because well.. there wasnt any support for it.. not a single legit driver ran properly.


I noticed on my 8800 box (its sitting right next to me) that when the 800 GTX came out, it had a 'Made for Vista' and 'Vista Compatible' sticker on it..

right now on my 8800 box, it reads as..


Designed for
-------------
Microsoft
Windows XP



then on the top corner on the other side of the box it mentions haphazardly,

Nvidia
Essential Vista.


They literally were forced to remove the stickers promoting windows vista because there was no support at all on it when it came to ;)

[NoPeace]

Oof.. hah, sort of a joke.. yeah, DX10 support, and no, no proper driver support ;) -llaughs- I thought it funny when various review sites werent able to benchmark any 8800's in the Vista OS because well.. there wasnt any support for it.. not a single legit driver ran properly.


I noticed on my 8800 box (its sitting right next to me) that when the 800 GTX came out, it had a 'Made for Vista' and 'Vista Compatible' sticker on it..

right now on my 8800 box, it reads as..


Designed for
-------------
Microsoft
Windows XP



then on the top corner on the other side of the box it mentions haphazardly,

Nvidia
Essential Vista.


They literally were forced to remove the stickers promoting windows vista because there was no support at all on it when it came to ;)

Well take another look at the nVidia web site. =P

They have WHQL certified DX10 drivers. THough it's only works in single card and not SLI at the moment.

They also have a DX10 real time tech demo. So you might just want to check it out and see the full power of yoru new card. ;)

NoPeace - out

[Sardaukar]

Was actually jsut on my way to downloading that tech demo.. ;)

[NoPeace]

Was actually jsut on my way to downloading that tech demo.. ;)

So you actually have Vista? =P

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[Sardaukar]

I've had Vista since it was out on Beta.. I'll just throw it on, give it a whirl on one of ym spare drives.. and see if its enjoyable at all now.. I know the driver support wont work well at all for gaming, much less the other thigns I do on computer.. but it would be neat to check it out ;)

[NoPeace]

I've had Vista since it was out on Beta.. I'll just throw it on, give it a whirl on one of ym spare drives.. and see if its enjoyable at all now.. I know the driver support wont work well at all for gaming, much less the other thigns I do on computer.. but it would be neat to check it out ;)

nVidia newest drivers is said to have fixed most of the performance problems. I should give it a try myself. Right now my wife's computer is only running one of her 2 7800 GTXs and it would be cool to see what SLI performance is like on Vista.

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[SHANG]

AMD - Simply, the best;) (Doggg mark :P)..,
i'll say only 1 thing : AMD can live at more C" Intel, Dies in that testXD

[Rishwin]

AMD - Simply, the best;) (Doggg mark :P)..,
i'll say only 1 thing : AMD can live at more C" Intel, Dies in that testXD

just cos it can survive higher temps doesn't make it better.

[Sergiu14]

How about better for overclocking?

[Rishwin]

How about better for overclocking?

a $300 c2d is better for overclocking than a $300 AMD, even if it can withstand higher temps...

[NoPeace]

AMD - Simply, the best;) (Doggg mark :P)..,
i'll say only 1 thing : AMD can live at more C" Intel, Dies in that testXD

Both of the new Intel and AMD processors can handle the same temps. And that doesn't mean a damn thing.

Never the less. Intel performs better then AMD and runs cooler.

How about better for overclocking?

Intel.

All Core 2 Duos can hit 3.0-3.2ghz on stock voltage. In some cases it's only a few hundred mhz jump and in other cases like the 1.8ghz ones. It's a massive jump.

For AMD's it's about 2.8-3.0ghz. The new 6000+ can get to about 3.4ghz. But then again that's a $500 processor and the e6700 can do the same.

And at the same speed in terms of mhz. The Intel one will win.

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[SHANG]

Both of the new Intel and AMD processors can handle the same temps. And that doesn't mean a damn thing.

Never the less. Intel performs better then AMD and runs cooler.



Intel.

All Core 2 Duos can hit 3.0-3.2ghz on stock voltage. In some cases it's only a few hundred mhz jump and in other cases like the 1.8ghz ones. It's a massive jump.

For AMD's it's about 2.8-3.0ghz. The new 6000+ can get to about 3.4ghz. But then again that's a $500 processor and the e6700 can do the same.

And at the same speed in terms of mhz. The Intel one will win.

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DO you really Know What is means that 6000+???? if you google it you will understand that intels are crap

[NoPeace]

DO you really Know What is means that 6000+???? if you google it you will understand that intels are crap

Do I?

More like do you?

The 6000+ is a single FX-74 ported down to the AM2 940-pin plat form. It is a dual core CPU running at 3.0ghz with 1mb L2 cache per core.

So how does that tell me that it's faster? What does tell if it's better or not is reviews and they say something different.

In all but memory bandwidth tests. The e6700 (dual 2.66ghz w/ 2mb shared L2 cache), which costs the same as the 6000+, out performs it by a large margin. If that's not bad enough. The cheaper e6600 (dual 2.4ghz w/ 2mb shared L2 cache), which costs $200usd less then the 6000+, out performs in most cases and in the cases it doesn't. The speed difference between the 6000+ and e6400 is none.

And if you about to say something stupid like the 6000+ means it is equal to a 6ghz CPU then you can say the same about the 6600 equals a 6.6ghz one.

So please do show me where AMD CPUs are better then Intel ones? And if you can I'll give you my e6700.

Fan boys like you put a bad name on good companies like AMD. I am a huge fan of theirs and have bought a lot of my stuff from them and even perform their setups. But the fact of the matter is. Right now the Core 2 series CPU's are the best. Both in price to performance and performance to watt.

If there is any AMD setup at the moment that I would consider getting form AMD, it would be the Quad FX. Just because it's a good dual Opteron setup that uses unbuffered DDR2 memory and supports SLI. But will I get one over a QX6700? Hell no when there is only 1 over priced motherboard for it and the 2 CPU's will cost $1100 compared to the QX6700 which costs $999. So a Quad FX system will cost a total of $1500 for just the board and processors and the QX setup will cost $1250. So it's overpriced and in terms of power. The QX6700 is faster and uses half the power!

Not until AMD releases their next gen K10 CPUs this fall will they have any hope in touching the performance of the Core 2 processors.

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[Sardaukar]

Truly Spoken.


Im sure NoPeace recognizes me as a die hard AMD fan.. but right now I will put the foot down and say, if AMD wasnt coming out with their new chips in the next few quarters, I would order up a brand new Intel setup to tide me over.. but I'm a fan of waiting.. and Im itchign to see what AMD can pull out of the theoretical hat ;)