Well,
Whats the buttom line?
I think ill wait till Intel will release thier new proccessor and then ill se what and when, But still...im so not sure...i had Intel proccessors all my life..and you know..They never really were good...im kinda sure that AMD will be next for me...im still not sure.
As about the V-card,ill choose ATI When the will release thier new cards:p
Watched the demo for the AMD quad cores yet? Seems like it's going to be an interesting thing coming up.Originally Posted by Sardaukar
And I am too a die hard AMD fan. Though I also cannot wait for ever and am greedy. So the best bang for my buck is what I get. And right now Intel is a mile away in performance to watt then AMD.
I would so love to get a QuadFX setup but the amount of power it draws compared to a simple Intel quad core is just stupid. Running two CPUs at 110w a piece is just not worth it when a single 120w one will out perform the two. Not only does QuadFX cost more but you have to worry about extra power and cooling. No way I am going to be spending an extra $75 for a water block when I don't need to. =P
Though dual K10 CPU's will be a force to reckon with. 8 ultra efficient cores compared to 2+2 efficient cores of the Intel's.
Then again it might be a good idea to get a cheap pair of FX-70 at about $600 and drop in a K10 or two when they come out. :scratch:
Just sucks that there is only an over priced ASUS board for QuadFX. :cry:
The next Intel? The Core 3 series wont be out until well after Q2 2008 when 45nm stuff comes out.
And Intel's P4 and PD series were crap. Though their P3 was great. After all the Core architecture is based off of the old P3 one. It's like they totally fucked up with the P4's and decided to go back to the ways of the P3 with the Centrino processors and from them evolved the Core and Core 2 processors.
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Hell, my current setup nets me great FPS, perfect system stability, and everythign runs nice and quick.. my good ol 3700 San Diego was/is a good chip for cookin through stuff.. ALthough, when Im oldbg'ing an active DLL, thats when I wish I had a dual core chip, or reading packets or whatnot.. i coudl jsut drag it off to my other monitor and let it do its thing whiel I continue with my main stuff.
Yeah that's the great part about dual cores. You can do something CPU intensive and it wont kill your system.
I just can't believe how I went doing stuff like that with out them. Hell even now 2 cores isn't enough when I really get going. Though I doubt I'll ever be able to use up an 8-way system with just single threaded apps. O.O
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Can I have it anyways?
No... I need it. =PCan I have it anyways?
And when I replace it, you are more then welcome to buy it. :throw:
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your last computer is strong enought uptill now. your computer can handle almost every game. maybe u want to run xp-vista~
and my opinion is wait a short moment.new cpus with 4 core or more will come out quickly~
AMD'cpu is better in media
INTER's is better in data
though AMD cpu's frequency is lower,the capability is more or less the same.
1) 4-core CPUs have been out since last November
2) Intel CPUs are better in everything
3) Both AMD and Intel have the same frequency now (1.8, 2.0, 2.4, 2.66, 2.93 for Intel and 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 3.0 for AMD)
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nopeace pulling out the big guns :) haha.
anyways, im also the die hard AMD fan, im waiting to c wat amd pulls out of the hat to compare with intel, if its worth it im going straight for it, also thinking if it might be worth the cash to bust of ati/amd new cards when they arrive.
for overclock best is AMD i think, i tryed with Semron on 1.6 2.6+ to 2.9Ghz with MSI sup board, it was not stable but verry hight, stable at 2.4ghz, but if meth is not MSI u can't clock it more than 2.3 or 2.4 and a verry big COOLING FAN (or wather fan.)
6 ghz blahah, who will say it ?
AMD have processors released with 4 middles with alot cache.
Intel also have but,
What do u think for Hyper Transport? does AMD's HT = Intel's Hyper Threading?
answer is NO, when u enable Htransport from the Bios on AMD processor it gets a Hight Bandwich transport.
Intels Hthreading gets like 1 more processor, but it makes only Lag, i am telling it to you koz i have seed AMD and INTEL 1vss1 , with my friends we maked lots of test (procsts) , and intel geted only 7 from 20 test on alot of programs. but, if you convert videos it takes 50% if thr is on, if not 90/100%,
but that is only a fake, and u can't run MU and Video converter like mu will take 50% and video converter will take 50%, but when u paly its like 1 fps:eek:.
Also what do Intel have for live of their processors?, they have nothing, but almost All amd's have Therminal Throttling, it begins from 12.5%, so if your comp temperature gets hight this option takes some Mhz like for 50% it will take ~30% from cpu when it get hight temperature, it gets an empty cikles in ur processor, 1.6-30% = little lag, and for a little time ur temp is down.
If you wan the real Proof Take 2 CPU's (if u have money) with Good mb and almost = processors amd and intel, Simply, First test it with some Games and look the difference.:matrix:
dont u just hate when noobs rush in threads dont even read everything and just write random crap (like amd owns intel )because they r a fanboy
looks like this thread is full of them
and omg @ shang , never have i seen such ignorance
not even worth replying
ill just let nopeace do it (yet again)
Wow... I can clock a 1.8ghz C2D to 3.5-3.7ghz if I wanted to and it'll be STABLE.
Now how is AMD better for overclocking? They were back a few years ago. The Athlon XP was a great and easy to overclock CPU and so was the early A64 ones.
Now they are very limited as most run at max speed.
With the Core 2 Duos you can easily get 100% OC on the low end ones and over 50% OC on the high end ones. AMD's cannot do that at all.
And MSI boards are not the best for overclocking. My top of the line MSI board cannot even handle overclocking and my old top of the line one for the A64 processors couldn't overclock nearly as high as my DFI boards for the same processors.
4 middles? What are you talking about you noob? Do you mean cores? If that's the case AMD doesn't have a 4 core CPU. They will be releasing a 4 core one for the server/workstation market next Fall and next year you'll see it for the desktop.
When did I ever say that you dope?
You don't enable it. It's a built in memory controller on the CPU itself.
And what is hight bandwcih transport? You are making up words now aren't you.
It's called Hyper Transport. And basically it is increased bandwidth between the memory and CPU as data doesn't need to go thought the chipset to reach the CPU as it directly goes to it.
You do realize that hyper threading has been out of CPUs since the PD came out. It was only used on the newer P4s and PD EE CPUs.
And it doesn't make it lag. It gives you the ability to use another thread at the same time. It does limits your overall performance to add the expandability.
And it is also obvious you have not even seen or use the new Intel processors. The Core and Core 2 series CPU's are the fastest out there.
As you told me to look at google I suggest you do the same as you can find tomes of reviews of the current Intel and AMD CPUs and you'll see who wins.
That's not a CPU related problem but a video card related one. So you can't say it's because of the CPU. I have done video converting and payed a game on an HT enabled CPU and it made it nicer to run compared to when it was off.
And how do you call it a fake? It is a CPU that can handle 2 per core instead of 1. Nothing fake about that.
You are joking right? Intel has had it in their notebook chips ever since AMD came out with the Cool'n'Quite technology that is thermal throttling.
And guess what? All 600 series P4 processors, PD processors, Core processors, and Core 2 processors supports thermal throttling and it's called Intel Speed Step.
Oh I have.
I have owned all of the following e6700, two 4800+, a 4000+, a P4 2.8b, a P4 2.4b, a PM 1.5ghz, and CD T2400.
So don't tell me what they can and can't do. I have use the P4, A64, A64 x2, PM, CD, and C2D extensively and know first hand that the current Intel chips are best.
Also double posting is against the rules.
It's so bloody annoying. He thinks he knows all about it because he has tested stuff from a few years ago. -.-
Sure they were best back then but compared to the CPU's of today they are just a joke.
He also has the nerve to tell me I'm wrong and start making up random names and saying who uber leet they are when they are not even real.
Not to mention he tells me to use google and find out the information. Hell if here were to use it. The first 5 sites that pop up will contradict all of his fan boyish talk. -.-
Anyways he is getting a warn for double posting.
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im soo tired
@ NoPeace, what u will finally say which is better Amd or Intel?
if we don't talk for nbks.
here 4 Middles processor = 4 Core -Yes.
my friend have Amd 4 Cores processor, maybe its 1 in all world?
i don't knowed that double post will warn sm1
and i don't read full rules, koz i don't have a time to do it.
but i will read it...
Which is better? Read my posts. I've said it many times and you have argued the opposite several times.
And if your friend has a 4-core AMD processor he is lying as they don't exist. There are just a few of them out there and they are for only a very few lucky people to look at.
If he does have 4 cores then it's either dual dual-core CPUs or four single-core CPUs. Either way I doubt your friend has the $2500-4000 to spend on just CPUs and a motherboard.
Well then if you don't have the time to read the rules then don't bother posting. And here is another infraction for this stupid comment. You are to read the rules before posting next time.
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