Hello everyone, this thread bump of the old one: http://forum.ragezone.com/f116/ati-v-nvidia-332749/
Lets discuss about it!
My prefence is NVIDIA GTX 690 (hoping to get it sooner)
AMD
NVIDIA
AMD vs NVIDIA
Hello everyone, this thread bump of the old one: http://forum.ragezone.com/f116/ati-v-nvidia-332749/
Lets discuss about it!
My prefence is NVIDIA GTX 690 (hoping to get it sooner)
AMD
NVIDIA
As an owner of an ati saphire 7970 i can say my personal opinion is Nvidia is better. The driver support is better plus the supported games are better. Sure, the card is powerful but what good is power with lack of support.
Yeah, also nvidia have 3D Vision 2, TXAA, FXAA, PhysX and more :POriginally Posted by MentaL
That's definitely worth to lose a few fps.
I haven't had experience with the counterpart, but I have been using nvidia for as long as I can remember and not once have I had issues with my graphics card. It's always other parts that have problems never my graphics card.
I was hardcore ATI fanboy until AMD took over...as stated the support went to hell...Catalyst still doesn't run correctly...and every new updated drivers only bring a slew of problems as if AMD never even tests then before releasing them...
I went from a AMD HD6670 to a GTX 660 3GB after the fan went out on my AMD...I will never go back. It has updated 3 times since I bought it 6 months ago and have had no problems with it running EVERYTHING I throw at it on max settings...
To be honest..I don't see AMD keeping ATI for much longer....I am still an AMD fanboy for CPU's...I have an FX-6200 Black Edition and love it....but they can't seem to get GPU software correct and are losing alot of people to Nvidia due to it.
Stupid threads.... It really depends on the market at the moment. Right now, nVidia has the best cards for most cases. When the AMD 7k series came out they were on top for 6 months until the 600 series nVidia cards came out. Then AMD release massive driver fixes and their cards pulled ahead. Currently nVidia has released their 700 series which of course is better then the last gen, but not by that much. Just wait until AMD releases their 8k series and it'll be the other way around.
Currently what you need to look at is the features you want. AMD has superior multi monitor gaming support and better multi card scaling. nVidia has better power management, physix, and slightly better driver support (although AMD isn't that bad anymore).
Honestly, if you want a single card that can give you the fastest framerates on a single monitor with the most graphics settings then get a top end nVidia. Though that's not really needed as you only need a mid-range card to drive a 1080p monitor with any game at max settings. The really expensive cards are only really needed for multimonitor gaming and that's AMD's stronghold.
In the end, there's no difference. 1080p gaming w/ vsync and both companies will deliver the same performance.
NoPeace - out
I probably am the worst person to choose between AMD and NVIDIA, but ill choose NVIDIA. I've had more NVIDIA graphics cards than AMD and when I did have AMD I didn't enjoy it as much.
There were times when I had both. Both at the same price range , and you would be surprised that the Radeon actually squeezed out more FPS than nVidia did. In fact I went so far to turn on max settings too with Radeon , whereas with nVidia couldn't.
Sure the new nVidia cards are fancy and straight forward awesome , but don't forget that Radeon had it's age too. And probably they still will in the future if they put their heads to it , as NoPeace stated above , it's all about marketing.
Back off Legend, we are just asking for users opinions, not more.
We're just comparing technologies, performance and price, then checking users opinion to see what they had with these cards, good or bad things. And you just simply can't call this thread as stupid, it doesn't.
For example in Powercolor Devil 13(limited edition)
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Thanks everyone else for giving their opinion.
Regards
RevoLand.
"Opinions" will land you with a piece of hardware you don't want. I know this because I went off "opinions" when I bought my last nvidia gpu. People's "opinions" where that it was a good enough gpu for what I wanted, and that was gaming. When I got it, it was utter SHIT, wouldn't run anything on max settings, compared to what I have now it's garbage. I paid less and it runs most if not everything I've tried with max/high settings. Which is an AMD card.
You do NOT want opinions, you want hard facts, which is what NoPeace was getting at. If you're getting a GPU for gaming, then either nVidia or AMD will do, performance will be just about the same. AMD are for those on a budget, but still looking to game on some decently high settings. nVidia are for people with deep pockets and would prefer to have more power then they'll typically need.
Fact: I purchased a GTX 650 and I play all games on max settings @ 1920x1080, for around $100.
My point? Something every single one of you hasn't pointed out is that your graphics card doesn't do it all anymore. Most games are shitty console to PC ports which eat up your CPU (GTA 4 anyone?). If you spend $400 on a GPU while you're using a core 2 duo, you're just going to bottleneck your GPU, then think the card is shit.
With any modern CPU + 4gb of ram, with any modern GPU holding around 1.5~2gb of memory, you're going to easily be able to push high to max settings on all games with just a few exceptions. You don't need to spend $400 or worry about which brand you're getting anymore, although you can't deny NVIDIA's superiority when it comes to technology like physx and their amazing driver support.
tl;dr: Your nvidia card wasn't shit.
No, it was shit. When I had my nvidia card I was on an i5. No bottleneck to be had. You basically just said made the same point I did.
I paid I think around $100 for my old nvidia card, it wasn't a gtx. I currently have a HD 6670, I choose this card over the 650 for two reasons. My new cpu is amd and it didn't feel right to have an nvidia card next to a amd cpu(don't ask), and even though multiple sites say the 650 (arguably) performs better, the 6670 was cheaper. Also the difference wasn't that big as to warrant tacking on another $30-40.
Physx is over rated. I always disabled it when given the chance, even when I had the nvidia. Besides, last time I checked physx works on amd cards also. Or I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.
PhysX can run on a machine with an AMD card but it's more load on the CPU because the GPU can't do it...Nvidia uses the GPU to work PhysX.
Sadly to say...more and more game are coming out that require PhysX to run...meaning if you run an older CPU your game will lag more due to the strain on the CPU.
You paid $100 for a Nvidia card but don't know which one it was? From your comments you say it wasn't a GTX but it was a 650? The only 650 made thats not a GTX is the GT 650M and thats a integrated chip...if you had a $100 Nvidia card and thought it was shit something else was going on...
As for the facts and opinions..yes you are correct...but if you bought a card simply because someone told you to without any research of your own...then yes...that is your own fault...
Regardless of who says what...or what you read where...there is no disputing Nvidia's superiority on driver software...and thats the best trait when purchasing a card...I mean no one wants to deal with 3 hours of blue screens every time you update your drivers...yes this happened to me on an HD5770...every update.
I'm totally agree with you, specially about blue screen, i have hp pavilion dv7-6c00et currently and hp drivers are not working (amd driver stop answering in direct 3d games and game crash etc) so i have to use leshcat's drivers to get it working but it gives random BSOD on startup, totally random.
Experiences eh? I've experienced the same thing with my nvidia card before. Blue screen after blue screen until I downgraded the driver to a previous one. On the other hand, never had any problems with my amd card. All about the set. Can't really expect drivers and a gpu to work hand and hand on a store bought pc like hp. Their boards are shit.
I never said I had a 650. I said I chose the 6670 OVER the 650. I can't really debate on driver software, as I've yet to have a bad experience with either regardless of what the "facts" may or may not be. They're both the exact same thing as far as I'm concerned. Though I do find AMD's recent control panel to have better over clock management.
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