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    The Gamma..? EliteGM is offline
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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    Okay, temps (not completely averaged out or anything, just after a few hours it's been on and playing a maxed out game for ~2 hours):
    Idle GPU: 44C, 1600RPM. Stressed GPU (gaming on max all): ~60C max. >2100RPM.
    Idle CPU: 44C, 800-900RPM (this rpm never changes, even with:) Stressed CPU: 65-75C (75 is the utter limit it goes).

    I keep temps & RPM's measured all times with Everest Ultimate edition. I've seen my CPU get >75C and NOT causing one of these freezes. I'm quite sure that cpu/gpu heat is not the issue...

    I could replace my CPU heatsink just for to keep temps <60, but I don't think buying a new one solves these freezes.

    I haven't had any with the 2 sticks seperate btw, both were in (with PC on of course, and a game running on max settings) for roughly 14 hours each.

    I've now put them both back in and I'll see when I get another freeze.

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    The Gamma..? EliteGM is offline
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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    Sorry for the 'bump' but I just got another freeze after it being on for like 20 hours.

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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    after you have changed the ram ?

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    The Gamma..? EliteGM is offline
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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    After I took them both out seperately, had them in seperately, put them both back in again. So ~20 hours of uptime after putting them back in together it froze again.

    EDIT:
    Just happened again T_T. ~9 hours now. I might be able to get an old 3GB of RAM together and stick it in.
    I already found 2x512 old mem now, gonna try the 512's+one stick of 2GB now, see what I get >.>

    EDIT2:
    Got 2 freezes with [2gb|512mb|empty|512mb] overnight, all after not even 90 minutes. trying the other 2gb stick now.
    I must say that when I took the 2gb stick out it felt kind of (too?) hot... Not that it'd burn my fingers but it just felt more than warm... IMO it's because of the heat produced by my GPU and CPU together... Would getting a new heatsink for my CPU take care of it? (read up a few posts)
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    Ginger by design. jMerliN is offline
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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    Volatile RAM gets warm. Electricity has to flow through it constantly to maintain the state or else it's useless, and the resistance of the transistors and wires warms it up, though not nearly as much as a CPU or GPU core.

    I'd just suggest open airing the thing, and if you don't feel comfortable removing everything and tabletopping it with a nice fan, just take the sides of the case off and getting a huge box fan blowing the coolest air you can through the case while testing. If things start working properly because of the extra airflow and lower temps, it's because something is overheating.

    Also, 70c is way too warm for a CPU. As I've read, quad core 2 duos get quite warm, but the stock cooler with decent air flow in the case, if it's seated properly with a thermal agent applied CORRECTLY, it should be able to keep it well under 55c even under stress (my i7 at 3.5GHz barely touches 55c under extreme stress for 10+ minutes). Professionals usually don't do a great job because they aren't always experts, and a lot of the times they get sloppy while trying to make a buck. The thermal compound used should completely cover the contact surface with a very thin coating (not super thick and gunky), also the HSF should be very well secured and firmly in place (even one of the snaps not being properly engaged can cause poor contact).

    TBH if your system can run at 90 minutes and play games without crashing, your CPU isn't overheating (though it's getting hot, the HSF is almost certainly not properly seated), it sounds more like a memory issue.

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    The Gamma..? EliteGM is offline
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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    Okay, thanks for the big read merlin
    I'm first going to wait it out with the 1x 2gb and 2x 512mb sticks, and then I can open up my case and get a big fan to blow against it. It sucks that it takes so long because I have to really wait for it to freeze before I can do 'the next step' >.>

    my cpu temp is like 63C now and I've got firefox, runescape on lowest cpu usage and my D:\ drive open. wtf...

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    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled! Daman2009 is offline
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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    If not RAM then I would say PSU. Only because memory errors usually give you error messages. Where as PSU will not. Either that or overheating somewheres?!?!

    But thats my opinion.

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    The Gamma..? EliteGM is offline
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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    well, I def. want a new heatsink, and well... From the day I got it, I've disliked my psu =\ Not cuz of errors but the brand overall
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    Fucking ballsy temps get 70+, even 75 peaks while just playing one single game with graphics that are closer to 2D than to 3D. Dayumn I need a new heatsink o.O
    Couple things I need to know;
    What heatsinks (socket ###?) will fit my mobo (specs @ top post)? I'm afraid of messing up putting thermal paste on there if it isn't on there already :| Any tips?

    Probably getting this one:
    Arctic-Cooling Alpine 7 Pro
    Last edited by EliteGM; 05-01-10 at 07:09 PM.

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    Re: !(@&*(!@&*( PC freezes

    I don't mean to bump but I've an update!
    I purchased the Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 PRO and it seems to have fixed about everything now ;) CPU Fan RPM goes above 900 now!@*(!&@(*
    Also, when I removed the old heatsink I saw that the paste was apply kinda sucky. Not really pro, so-to-say.



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