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    d.^.^.b superstar911 is offline
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    Linux/ windows 7

    Hey sorry that I've been posting slot but since I'm on iPod can't really serch that well so I had a question can I play modern games using Linux as operating software (black ops medal of honor etc.) Also since it is a computer I am building can I get windows 7 for free if I can't use windows 7 on Linux
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    For free if I can't use Linux for gaming**
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    No games on Linux!

    The best way is to create a dual boot environment. Use Linux for browsing and boot over to Win7 for gaming. Google for an in-depth guide on setting up your first dual boot environment.

    This is what I do, although I rarely game anymore. Simply put, if you want to game then you need Windows 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    No games on Linux!
    I disagree with this.

    You can actually run games on Linux. Some games actually have Linux ports for them. There are quite a few game developers that support Linux. If there isn't a Linux port you can try running games in apps like wine, crossover, cedega, etc. Wine implements the windows api in Linux making it possible to run Windows games on Linux. There is also a front end for wine called Play on Linux. This makes it easier to configure and install games on your Linux system.

    Proof
    YouTube - Call of Duty Black Ops LINUX ONLINE MULTIPLAYER

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    Howto install Call of Duty Black Ops in Linux using PlayOnLinux | Unixmen

    Wine also has an app database that will help you configure your application to run if you do have issues.
    WineHQ - Browse Applications

    As with all games though some will work and some will not. I actually had a game that ran better Linux.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    The best way is to create a dual boot environment. Use Linux for browsing and boot over to Win7 for gaming. Google for an in-depth guide on setting up your first dual boot environment.
    I do agree that a dual boot system is better. I have a dual boot Windows VISTA and Xubuntu as not all games work on Linux and sometime I can't be bothered configuring them. Also you don't need a guide to configure dual boot. Just install the Window OS first then Linux. If it is a popular Linux OS like Ubuntu, GRUB will automatically detect and add your Windows partition to it.

    Windows 7 is proprietary software an is not free.

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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    Wine takes some fps away so if your rig can play in on windows without any problems then install linux otherwise stay in windows because the game will be faster there. Haven't played any game on linux for 7 months now but I guess it will still be the same.

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    Alright thank you for the help never heard of wine and stuff
    I will look more into also dual booting thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakaer View Post
    As with all games though some will work and some will not.
    ^-- is what I meant by no games on Linux. Sorry, I should have clarified.

    Its more worth your time to just do it right and set up dual boot with windows and linux. Going through a lot of tedious steps just to try to get a game to work is not worth an average gamer's time.

    Running better on Linux isn't really an argument in this case. If he uses Linux for daily activities and Windows for purely gaming then there are a lot of things he can disable in Windows to get a lot better performance. Along with 0 compatibility issues when it comes to gaming, Linux can't beat that.

    Just because something works doesn't mean it is the best option.

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    Yes it is less time consuming and easier to use a dual boot environment. However tweaking your games to run is also a learning experience and some of the tweaks may help in Windows also. I generally try and run my favorite games in Linux and anything else in Windows because I don't know how often ill play them and it isn't worth taking the time to configure something I wont play much.

    Play on Linux is supposed to take most of the tedious tweaks out of installing and configuring games on Linux.

    Also you will find some games will run smoother on Linux. Windows uses Direct X mainly for running games while Linux is more proficient with using OpenGL. If you have a game that runs on OpenGL it may just work better in Linux.

    Also Windows does have compatibility issues. As I mention in my previous post I had a game that ran better on Linux. This is because the game uses OpenGL extensions and Windows 7 and my ATI driver had issues with this. The game worked fine on Windows Vista however with Windows 7 it was a no go.

    Still a dual boot option is the best as Windows will have less problems.

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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    Virtual machine for Linux rulez

    VirtualBox

    ^_^

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    Go for the dual boot!

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    There are too many idiots using Linus just for bragging rights or for the sake of having it. The amount of people who use Linus and actually HAVE a use for it, is... Minimal.

    Honestly if you're asking these questions, then you aren't the type of person who should be using Linux, let alone tweaking it and messing around with shit just to get games to work. To answer your question directly: Does Linux have native support for modern games? No.

    I say scrap it completely and just use Windows.
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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    Yah I was going to use windows probably heard 2000 is good for running games even modern friends of no problems or xp I forget which
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    Quote Originally Posted by superstar911 View Post
    Yah I was going to use windows probably heard 2000 is good for running games even modern friends of no problems or xp I forget which
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    Why would you use Windows 200 or XP if you're building a new PC? Just get Windows 7, it's clear that you're gonna be pirating it anyway, why would you choose a free copy of Windows 2000/XP over Windows 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superstar911 View Post
    Yah I was going to use windows probably heard 2000 is good for running games even modern friends of no problems or xp I forget which
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    Windows 2000?

    ????????

    If you want to play games get Win7. Bottom line.

    Your friends are idiots if they recommend 2000 over 7.

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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    All operating systems have flaws.

    2000 is ancient and I would not recommend that.

    XP is decent but doesn't have support for Direct X 10+. XP would probably be better for some older games.

    Windows 7 has support for Direct X 10+ and most modern games would be designed for Windows 7.

    I would recommend you use Windows 7 as your primary OS and for games. It will be the most compatible with current and future games. If you did however want to experiment with Linux or another OS just install it to a USB flashdrive or into a virtual machine.

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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    Ugh.. Linux with GUI = shit. Slow, buggy and mostly unstable. At least to my experience. I'd only ever use Linux for servers.

    If you want a linux-like (kinda?) Operating system but the good features of windows-like things such as games and compatibility run OSX10 and if you can't buy it Hackintosh or whatever it's called now.

    Imo, and do note IMO. Linux has a long way to go until it's even suitable for home use. It's cute that there's programs like wine and you're able to virtualise parts of the Windows OS and are able to play games with shit FPS but that's it.

    When I use Ubuntu with gnome or SuSE with KDE I feel like it's artificial some what. It feels slow.. I'm not trying to bash Linux. I'm personally a fan of Linux because it's free and community oriented. It's server platform is amazing but that's it.

    You may as well stick with Windows though.

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    KDE and Gnome are slow but more stable that other window managers. Thats one of the main issues I have with Ubuntu is that Gnome feels slow. The great thing is Gnome and KDE aren't the only Windows Managers available for Linux.

    Try xfce, its lighter and faster than Gnome or KDE but in my opinion it isn't as stable and requires more manual tweaking. You can download Xubuntu. Its Ubuntu with xfc preloaded on it.
    Xfce Desktop Environment
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    There is also Joes Window Manager (JWM). Its lightweight and fast but its kinda ugly compared to xfce. Its still decent though. Puppy Linux uses JWM to be a quick, small Linux OS.
    JWM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Puppy Linux Community - Home

    Mac OS isn't any better at running games than Linux. You still need to either use bootcamp or crossover. This doesn't really make Mac OS a viable option in this case as he was looking at Linux because of the free aspect. If he is going to use a pirated or hacked copy he might as well use Windows.

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    I will find a way to get 7 just dropped my money buying this thing will be a while till I can buy it sadly
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    Or wait can I install xp and upgrade to 7 for free
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    gooby pls Phant0m is online now
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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    Win98 SE nuffsaid.

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    Friend is hooking me up with windows 7 decied to stay simple thank you guys though
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    For the record; no, you can't upgrade from xp to 7.

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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    Saw it somewhere had to ask
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    Ron, your wrong. Get the right program from windowsxlive.com and your in windows 7 mode :)

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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Beny. View Post
    Ron, your wrong. Get the right program from windowsxlive.com and your in windows 7 mode :)
    I do believe that's just a theme for windows XP and not an actual operating system. I can't really look - I'm on my iPhone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beny. View Post
    Ron, your wrong. Get the right program from windowsxlive.com and your in windows 7 mode :)
    Don't ever post here again, thx.

    1. That site is infested with ads.

    2. Getting a Win7 THEME is not the same as upgrading an operating system.

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    Re: Linux/ windows 7

    We all know that lol
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