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Originally Posted by omen
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Originally Posted by omen
Well, Xenosaga21, gotta say was helpful in my topic. But i don't agree here. Vista is SHIT. EVERYONE knows that if you buy a computer pre-loaded with vista, and you scrub it and install XP, your machine will perform soooooooooo much better it's not funny. Tell me who agrees. More than 75% will.
EDIT: WHAA!!!??? When did NoPeace leave??? He was awesome help!
The reason vista gets a Bad rap is because 90% Of the people that Used it have gotten it from a pre-load on there new computers.... Or they don't have a computer that is vista capable.... no let me rephrase that they don't have a computer that "can take advantage of the performance and features vista has to offer" yes that is better. . .
Its just like when windows came out with the first GUI... old computers couldn't use the GUI cause they where too slow... but if your computer was fast enough you would be able to use the gui and get things done faster....
Vista has new ways of doing things that make your computer perform faster... the catch is that your computer has to be capable of utilizing these new abilities... and sadly most computers are too old... or not configured optimally...
first off when you buy a computer from Dell/Hp/ etc.
1) They install Home Premium or Home Basic version of vista which is garbage.
2) They install custom Branded junk like toolbars EVERYWHERE
3) They load a shit load of trial ware that you cant even fucking Remove...
4) They give you shit outdated Drivers and dont even configure your system to perform good.
Try using a REAL Sp1 MSDN copy of Vista Ultimate, x64 bit on a FRESH install with the correct drivers and it will blow your mind how fast vista is...
Even back in the day when computers where shipped with XP they sucked ass because of all the garbage the Name Brands like Hp etc put on it...
I reformatted my laptop Dual core/ 7600 2gb Ram 10 times testing what i wanted Xp or Vista... and in the end i chose vista because
1) it has a longer Half Life (so i have to reformat less often)
2) it is more responsive
3) the search feature with the indexing is no longer a real resource hog...
this makes finding a specific song in a pile of 20000 mp3's a lot faster.
I run Age of Conan on High Settings on my Laptop which only has a 7600 go 256 mb Graphics card, and i get over 35 fps constant...
even while running AoC i only use 1.6gb's of 2gb's
Soon im going to install 4gb's in my laptop and add a 64 bit processor just to use x64bit version of Vista cause it performs really great on my friends laptop....
I can tell you from experiance that if you know how to correctly setup vista and trim down the stuff that you dont need "like windows deffender" and fuckin UAC (the thing that pops up for noobs everytime u do something)
its so simple.....
you guys are just inexperianced with vista and are not willing to learn and give it a try... so thats why you will use xp and reformat every month from virus/bit rot / instability .....
I have not had BSOD while using vista,
It never crashes/ Never stalls / Never complains / never nags/ never gives me 100 error messages that mean absolutely nothing..
Xp ALWAYS CRASHES, ALWAYS BSODS, ALWAYS needs maintenance out the kazoo!
if you judge vista from experiences on a name brand pre-installed copy you are dumb.
My advice... If you have a computer faster than a Pentium 4 2.0Ghz, 1gb Ram and the equivalent of an x800 xt you should use vista, but if your computer has no video card and bellow 1gb ram, you should use Xp... just because vista needs an environment where it can function properly...
If you where a professional boxer, and they told you to fight rambo... you would say ok lets go....
But then they say but wait we only have these shoes with holes in them and only one glove, and btw we have no lights on the stage, .... you wont be able to fight effectively... and the well equipped rambo will rape ur ass and you wont even be able to stand cause of your shity shoes.
This is the same situation... if vista has no where to stand and is in an environment that causes it to be inefficient ... it wont perform well
Vista Needs resources and room to breathe, its like a thorough bread horse trying to breath underwater . . . it just drowns under all of your garbage computer parts.
Btw Me and nopeace disagreed on a lot, But I think even he would meet me half way on what I said here... he even used to talk about how well windows 2008 server was running some games... only thing me and him really disagreed on was how good/bad windows 2000 Was, and piracy ( we have diff views on the subject) on and the fact that xbox 360 is better than Ps3 ^^ ( I still prefer xbox360... better titles)
Most programs are designed for Windows XP in x32 bit. And less programs are designed for x64 bit. I have never used x64-computers myself, but I would stick to x32. It's the best, and 90% out of all programs are compatible with it. But it's really up to you whether you want to use x32 or x64.
You can use more Ram under 64 bit, Thus you can do more/Run More 32 bit and 64 bit programs at same time... 64 bit computing is more robust than 32 bit...
If you have a 64 bit CPU why not use it...?
vista has come a long way since release . . . over 8,000 tweaks/mods/bug fixes have been introduced in SP1 alone . . . countless fixes after...
Needless to say you always have the early adopters / later adopters of new technology . . . hell you even have people still actually using windows 95 or earlier. . .
if all you do on your computer is run word and note pad and listen to mp3's why use vista xp 2000 / 2003 or even 98 . .. windows 95 did all those things . . . and uses what 10mb ram ? ^^
64 bit has a larger Memory Allocation size and when running 64 bit applications / games, they will run much more stable apposed to 32... we are talking about the future of computing ... not just NOW/Today
As for me... Windows Vista x64 bit runs all my games and programs flawlessly on my desktop...
q6600 / geforce 8800 / 4gb Ram on a 680i chip
Btw many games already do run under 64 bit ...
half life 2 is one of them. . . consequently the mods of half life 2 like team fortress etc... should also be able to take advantage of 64 bit computing...
32bit apps can run on 64 bit windows, with some minimal configuration (google it),
i managed my windows XP like year ago to run 32 bit apps/games.
and still.. there was errors sometimes with some programs/games, but the most of them was working fine.
the best i don't know, depends for what u want it, if its not for big server or something then use 32bit
i give my vote for the 64bit ;)
p.s windows is not the best :D
was there ever a 16 bit windows?? if so when?
Ok, my first disowner. I have a clean install copy of windows vista business, straight from Microsoft. This is the PC, my dad currently has. Vista, was straight out SHIT on that thing. He bought it, it came with vista, IT WAS SHIT. Infact, the performance was SOOOOO bad, we thought it was a fault with the CPU. So guess what we did. We ripped out a good old copy of Windows XP Pro. Ohh shit..... whats this! The thing doesnt take 15 freaking minutes to boot up anymore through all the useless shit Microsoft put into vista just to make it look nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
2nd disowner. DUH! Who the fuck buys labelled computers anyway? Unless of course they are laptops, but be aware, not all computer companies clog your system full of shit. ( *Specifically points at Compaq and HP and smirks as he has a Toshiba laptop* )Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
Couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
What the HELL have you been doing to your drive man? Holy jesus. 10 reformats? What have you been doing? Chucking laptop harddrives out the freaking window man? Shit, my dads prior computer to what he has now only had XP reinstalled ONCE in 5 1/2 years! And he used the thing EVERYDAY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
Here's a little test. Grab that little old laptop of yours, and set it up with a dual boot. Then post a screenshot of the FRAMERATE on XP compared to Vista. At the LEAST XP will add another 20FPS to that, simply because its XP, and it doesnt need all that freakin DX10 shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
Have fun! Do the same thing with XP though! And no doubt, its gonna run GREATER than your friends laptop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
Windows defender? UAC? LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
( No more needs to be said. )
Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
1. What kinda fuckin virus protection do you use? Your left ass cheek?
2. Instabilities.... Ever heard of www.update.microsoft.com?
Well thats funny isnt it. I would say the exact opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
So is this what vista looks like during boot?Quote:
The Blue Screen of Death (abbreviated BSoD), also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista".
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia.../97/Vista3.jpg
And this would be.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
So, please explain to me, WHAT THE HELL IS VISTA WHEN IT IS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
All i can do to your response is laugh really...
1) I have Run Dual Boot before and I had the same exact Fps in almost every Game... Some performed better in vista ... some in xp.. talking differance of -/+ 2 Fps....( the newer games performed a little better on vista...)( the older games like counter strike 1.6 had issues, with Fps that could be resolved by disabling vertical sync... then ran at over 100 Fps in developer mode... and 99 fps the physical maximum for that game in non dev mode...)
2) You probably didnt have SP1 or any of the drivers installed on your dads comp...
3) Vista needs a few hours of Running to get used to user habits and situate itself... its not as clear cut as install and your done at optimal performance..
4) If you have not reformated xp for that long then
A) you are a telling a lie.
B) you Restart the computer OFTEN
C) the computer is so slow that no one does anything on it but use word/firefox... so they wouldnt know if it was slow in the first place.
Vista functions optimaly under an environment between 1gb to 4gb of ram...
where it has a Processor that is atleast multi threaded... ( HT etc..)
The gui ( Aero if you enable it, needs a better graphics card) Vista Basic doesnt...
But i mean for God sake I have a Penitum 3 with 512 mb ram and a geforce 5200 video card ... Running vista Business edition NON SP1 and it STILL RUNS Reasonably well.... so
HOW BAD IS YOUR COMP LOL?
Proly a POS Celeron possessor
vista doesn't cost that much, Oem copies... (and Who actually purchases it anyways...?) I think i seen copies of ultimate selling for like 120$ ... less than what Xp pro used to cost. . .. *cough 200$*
vista with Sp1 Incorporated or slip streamed is much better than the ones they sell anyway...
Again you agree with me most people who buy computers from Hp/Dell/compaq etc have a shit load of garbage pre-installed.... or a version of vista that there computer cant even run.
As to you installing Xp and computer running great after, have fun installing it again in a week...
Again I ACTUALLY TEST THINGS, That is why I try Different Versions of XP vs. different Versions of vista....
There are hundreds of different types of pre configured Windows Xp installs that are out there.... I HAVE TESTED ALMOST ALL OF THEM AND WAS UTTERLY DISGUSTED THAT I DECIDED ON MY OWN ACCORD TO CUSTOMIZE MY OWN COPY OF VISTA, CAN YOU SAY THE SAME DIPSHIT? To me squeezing every bit of performance out of my portable gaming laptop is IMPORTANT... that is why i dedicated DAYS to the Task. In the end after almost a week and half and 30 DvD'Rs I came to the conclusion after benchmarking and 3dMark . . . that I was getting the Optimal gaming performance out of my 3 year old laptop With My customized Version of Vista 32 Bit SP1.... (Higher Fps, Faster game load times, faster file Transfers, Better multitasking, More responsive file indexing/searching through mp3s... and less crashes...) ... WHO THE HELL CARES if Your comp Takes an extra 9 Sec. To startup...
As long as it runs my games above my expectations I could Care less...
You are clearly completely biast in your view, I admit that Xp has its place... but it is NOT in any computer that you can build today for atleast 550$
How is it that I and 9 Other friends all GAME on My vista versions, have not reformated in 4 Months and Play every modern Game JUST FINE while you all cant seem to figure out how to even disable UAC...
O and for Anti-Virus,
a) I am not dumb enough to get a virus in the first place.....
b) I use Kaspersky suite... The best least intrusive antivrius.
c) Most of you still use a SOFTWARE firewall, because you are to dumb to realize that routers have a hardware one built in...
Other Software I use...
Hijackthis/Kaspersky/adaware/Spybot/Spyware Blaster
DUDE your an EPIC FAILURE AT LIFE, You dont know half the shit I do about OS'S/ Computer Performance... I built my First PC when I was just 5, Running Dos, I was spinning track Balls and double clicking when you where still sucking on your mothers tit.
Hell I could make my own OS if I wanted to. -_-
All I have been saying, is that in the cases of me and 9 of my friends comps, vista actualy performs BETTER than Xp.... Now for your computer / parts/ specific situation that may not be the case... maybe you have a shity chipset... maybe your computer has 512 mb ram... Maybe your dick got stock in your Usb slot while you where trying to have "Cyber Sex" causing a short.... given situations have a given solution, In your case your comp sucks so you have to use Xp.... GG now GTFO of here b4 I Slap you with my thumbdrive and teabag you.
PS: I have A CRAZY FAST DESKTOP WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I RUN ALL MY GAMES IN DX 9 Garbage MODE? 0o
If you have not played in Dx 10 you dont know wtf you are missing... the graphics look astounding especialy on my 32" LCD ^^
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Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
whooah, dont get this dude pissed....
anyway, with my hp gaming laptop (2gigs ram, 250 gig hd, amd 64 x2 turion nvidia go graphics) all i did was a reinstall of vista (trialware and shit?) and it worked fine. and for all u dip shits who miss xp, look up DUAL BOOT ON WIKIPEDIA.
Laterz,
Ninja
haha GO WITH 128 bit!!! IT ROCKS ZOMG!!! haha, seriously tho, obviously got with 64bit.
O God please delete this world and start over, you clearly fucked up the first time with the entire creation idea...
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Originally Posted by Xenosaga21
Hmm. Well i got nothing against you as a person, but i sure as shit dont agree with you about vista. Because i still have common sense, im gonna leave it at that.
common sense? I highly doubt you are capable;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fatslob222
truth be told I don't care what you use... but just cause you have problems with vista doesn't mean the entire world does.... :bad: