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    Quote Originally Posted by Shortor View Post
    4gb? why 4 GB lol. overkill ftw?
    There will be games coming out in the near future that you will be needing 4gb to play smoothly. Can stick to 2 if you feel like it but since he has only 1gb he can get a 2x2gb sticks pack for pretty cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    There will be games coming out in the near future that you will be needing 4gb to play smoothly. Can stick to 2 if you feel like it but since he has only 1gb he can get a 2x2gb sticks pack for pretty cheap.
    Only games I can think of which will need around 2GB are, Crysis and UT3. They may need 3GB but never 4GB it's a rare situation.

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    well sometimes you really need high ram for RTS game such as supreme commander and C&C, but 2gb would be enough for fps games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liselotte View Post
    hmm, this might be stupid but how to install the new graphics card? cause mine is Integrated

    @Shortor
    i bought my pc 2 years ago
    Buy a new system.

    1. That motherboard is crap
    2. The CPUs for it are no longer made meaning they are very expensive
    3. DDR1 costs 2x as much as DDR2

    Suggestion.

    EVGA 680i Special Edition - $150
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - $250
    2x 1gb Cosair XMS DDR2-800 - $100
    8800GTX - $500
    600w PSU - $100
    Case - $100
    WD 500GB HDD - $125
    -------------------------
    Total - $1325

    This will be better then any gaming laptop at a $3000 price range.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shortor View Post
    it's easy, every motherboard has an open slot to add a graphics card.
    Most boards with intergraded graphics don't have a slot to add in a graphics card.

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    Biased for you isn't it NP?
    How?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlinePixel View Post
    Ok i'll give you a perspective and let you make the desision, although laptops are far more portable than PC's they are not as superior performance due to cooling and space requirments of components in a full desktop. Although if you move around alot and arnt normally in your home but are near a charging point then a laptop is a good solution as it is much more portable and then kind of mobility graphics cards out nowadays are very very powerful.
    Actually any mobility graphics card out there that don't drain the battery is very weak. They can barely handle DX 9 at lowest settings. And if you get one of the good cards it'll drain your battery in no time and not to mention cost just as much as good desktop card and only half the power.

    And whats the point of always having to have it plugged in? If you are going to do that then just buy a desktop. And if you want it portable then buy a mini ATX setup.

    NoPeace - out

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoPeace View Post
    How?

    NoPeace - out
    You've just awnsered your own question, I said you was biased because you didnt give much of a reason as to why gaming laptops are crap, you just said they are weak without giving a comparision from the desktop to laptop point of view :)

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    Re: [Recommendation]gaming laptop (support any games), Vista OS

    And if you are really looking for good laptops still through Newegg.. I woudl recommend the Asus brand, the GS A1 series has caught my eye.. 4 hours battery life on one of the 8600m GPU's at 1800 in price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sardaukar View Post
    And if you are really looking for good laptops still through Newegg.. I woudl recommend the Asus brand, the GS A1 series has caught my eye.. 4 hours battery life on one of the 8600m GPU's at 1800 in price
    Not bad but you can get a Dell just as good for about the same price. And they do offer protection plans which is very well needed for laptops.

    NoPeace - out

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    is Dell good? cause some of my friends said it sucks, and even my school using dell products, it run very slow

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    Re: [Recommendation]gaming laptop (support any games), Vista OS

    Dell sucks. never buy pc's from Dell HP or whatsoever. you're off way cheaper buying it in parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liselotte View Post
    is Dell good? cause some of my friends said it sucks, and even my school using dell products, it run very slow
    Dell desktops are poor quality now. But their laptops are great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shortor View Post
    Dell sucks. never buy pc's from Dell HP or whatsoever. you're off way cheaper buying it in parts.
    Now state some facts to support your statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shortor View Post
    4gb? why 4 GB lol. overkill ftw?
    4GB is not overkill. Go play supcom, you want to have ATLEAST 2GB of ram - and even with that you cant play the big maps with many other players or AI.

    if your going 4GB, you might want to look into 64bit vista ultimate (I hear it isnt bad, I am going to test it this weekend, I currently run Vista Ultimate 32bit) as well as a 64bit processor(Duh). Due to, if what I recall is, an 32 bit x86 problem 32bit OSs cant read 4GB of memory correctly - might be wrong on this though (I just know and keep hearing 32bit OS wont read 4GB of ram or higher correctly).

    If you are going to build one, and stick a core 2 processor in it, just remember to get a good mobo, you can upgrade the processor later if needed as all the core 2s I have seen are LGA 775 slot.



    @The person saying every mobo has a graphics card slot: This is false. VGA is dieing / dead, if you have an out dated mobo without PCI-E you are out of luck, and should upgrade anyway.

    I currently run:

    > Core 2 Duo E6600, 2.4Ghz (Going to upgrade to one of the top-of-the line ones here some time soon).
    > 2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 dual channel ram
    > XFX 8800 GTX Graphics card
    > 750W ToughPower PSU (Going to downgrade to a 620W PSU that has modular connectors so I do not have a ton of wires laying around the inside of the case I dont use - will help the air flow)
    > BenQ 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor, res: 1680x1050 (If you are getting an 8800, or any of the 8s, you will want a monitor that takes advantage of it and not something that runs at 1280x1040 [granted, you can upgrade later, thats what I did, but I would plan on upgrading it]).

    Laptops are for mobility, desktops are for power. Currently, laptops and modern gaming do not go together, so unless you badly need mobility (Such as a college / dorm room instance) - I would get / make a desktop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    4GB is not overkill. Go play supcom, you want to have ATLEAST 2GB of ram - and even with that you cant play the big maps with many other players or AI.
    That is true. You need lots of RAM to help with 8000 units on screen plus everything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    if your going 4GB, you might want to look into 64bit vista ultimate (I hear it isnt bad, I am going to test it this weekend, I currently run Vista Ultimate 32bit)
    It's better then XP Pro 64-bit. It actually works.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    as well as a 64bit processor(Duh).
    All new CPUs are 64-bit and have been for the last few years.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    Due to, if what I recall is, an 32 bit x86 problem 32bit OSs cant read 4GB of memory correctly - might be wrong on this though (I just know and keep hearing 32bit OS wont read 4GB of ram or higher correctly).
    Not correctly but it's limited to about 3.5GB of RAM. As 32-bit addressing can't go higher.

    Then with Windows. The OS reserves 1gb for it's own use when you have over 3GB of RAM. Only leaving you to a use of 2.5GB of RAM.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    If you are going to build one, and stick a core 2 processor in it, just remember to get a good mobo, you can upgrade the processor later if needed as all the core 2s I have seen are LGA 775 slot.
    Why not AMD? The K10s will be out before the next gen of Core 2's. And they should be better then the current Core 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoPeace View Post
    That is true. You need lots of RAM to help with 8000 units on screen plus everything else.



    It's better then XP Pro 64-bit. It actually works.



    All new CPUs are 64-bit and have been for the last few years.



    Not correctly but it's limited to about 3.5GB of RAM. As 32-bit addressing can't go higher.

    Then with Windows. The OS reserves 1gb for it's own use when you have over 3GB of RAM. Only leaving you to a use of 2.5GB of RAM.



    Why not AMD? The K10s will be out before the next gen of Core 2's. And they should be better then the current Core 2's.

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    @64bit XP - yea, I meant to say 64bit XP pro isnt good but forgot :/

    As for AMDs, I am really not one of the people to choose 1 processor over the other but at the time I built my comp C2Ds were the best, so im sticking with that for now since all I need is a processor and not a new mobo.

    When I build a new comp, I will most likely go with whatever is best at the time if I can afford it, but for now I am just upgrading mine.

    And yea, I read an article about the 32bit memory addressing, kinda sucks :/ but oh well.

    edit: And yea, I dont see why people have a problem (Not saying anyone in this thread does - just in general) with Vista. Most of the reviews I have read dont do it justice IMO. I used to be hardcode-anti Vista. A friend + the fact I got sick of reading reviews about it got me to try it since I was formating anyway - and now I feel kinda stupid for going on about how bad it was, because it really isnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    As for AMDs, I am really not one of the people to choose 1 processor over the other but at the time I built my comp C2Ds were the best, so im sticking with that for now since all I need is a processor and not a new mobo.
    It was meant for people that can't upgrade to anything new.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    When I build a new comp, I will most likely go with whatever is best at the time if I can afford it, but for now I am just upgrading mine.
    Yeah screw the fanboy crap. Lol...

    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    And yea, I read an article about the 32bit memory addressing, kinda sucks :/ but oh well.
    Not really 32-bit is a dream come true compared to 16-bit environments. :1:

    Quote Originally Posted by TomParad0x View Post
    edit: And yea, I dont see why people have a problem (Not saying anyone in this thread does - just in general) with Vista. Most of the reviews I have read dont do it justice IMO. I used to be hardcode-anti Vista. A friend + the fact I got sick of reading reviews about it got me to try it since I was formating anyway - and now I feel kinda stupid for going on about how bad it was, because it really isnt.
    Yeah... 99% of the anti-vista crowed has never tried it. If you have a PC that can utilize Vista then it's a great OS. In many ways better then XP. Especially the 64-bit version.

    The only problem I have with it is poor driver support, but that isn't a problem with the OS. It's a problem with the hardware manufacture.

    I'll be going back to Vista once I get my MSDNAA account active again. As now there is actually working drivers from creative.

    NoPeace - out

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    16 bit ftw!

    65,535 > 4,294,967,295
    bank switching ftw!
    /end sarcasm

    lol i dont think there will be a need to go to 128 for memory addressing for a while :D

    16 (whats after petabytes? lol)



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