According to this blog, http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/b...milestone.aspx the official release of the release version will be on 26th October. So far, only the release preview has been release officially.Originally Posted by Hejula
EDIT: Cancel that, i missed out the part where they said RTM was released on August ><
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Lol. Come on guys. Most of you are just bitching about Windows 8 without ever having used it >_>
I use it. Windows 8 Conusmer Preview is my PRIMARY operating system on TWO computers -- my gaming PC and my Laptop Tablet (which obviously Windows 8 is targetting -- tablets).
It boots up much faster than all the other Windows OS's (Windows XP, Vista, 7).
Sure -- it has no start button (though you can actually swipe up the start menu), but you can still just hit the windows key on your keyboard. Note that as stated in this thread, you can get Start8 by Stardock. Also note though that those retards are trying to charge money for that now though so it's only a trial.
Anyway, I don't need to sit here and justify Windows 8 for everyone =p Just like with other OS's, people will just have to get use to it. And unfortunately, they'll have no choice -- that's the future of OS's -- touch screen loving OS's.
I have to admit...I like it.
I have been running the Pro RTM on my VM for about 12 hours now so far....and it's not that big of a change.
As stated most of the things he speaks of are fixed or changeable with a little knowledge...
The tiles can be hidden so you have a regular desktop. (although I kind of like the tile setup)
I think I'm going to upgrade my Win 7 to it on my laptop before doing the complete conversion on my Desktop.....I want to see how programs run with it first...
EDIT: Ok..found one problem with it so far...Nothing on internet on how to fix it...
I really dislike the way they SHOVE Bing down your throat...example...News Feed..I like the live tile...but you cannot remove Bing as one of it's sources...
RSS' Feeds..The Microsoft webpage says you can add RSS Feeds to a supposed RSS Tile on your Metro...but I cannot find said tile anywhere...
EDIT #2:
This popped up on my live News Tile...Ironic LOL
Early look at Windows 8 baffles consumers
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I have personally used windows 8 and I have to say the design is poor and not well thought out.
Why I understand the move was to try and take a step forward to intergrate touch style interface with the old style windows I have to say one simple reply. "I own a computer not a tablet". Why the idea was a bold one that I think could have worked the problem is the way windows have taken the steps to intergrate.
1, The user interface is to largly built around the idea of touch interface rather than mouse and keyboard interface [That 99.9% of people will use]. Due to this many needed functions and parts have been removed from that made windows what it is. With out these functions windows lacks a steady usability that as a windows user I want.
2, To much to soon. Why the idea is good it sadly is to far ahead of what the average user will be using there pc for. Only a small amount of users will own a touch screen monitor to truly take advantage of some of the design aspects. This limits the real core user base for windows 8 and I hope will stop many new pc's rolling out with the software installed.
3, No ability to change. One of my biggest issues is having no ability to revert to the previous windows design. Why explorer is ok I would prefer to have the ability to go back to the default layout with buttons to close and minimize that I use a lot. The fact that even in explorer you are forced to stick to the same silly layout design is a bad choice in my opinon and one that stops windows 8 being great.
Overall,
Why my comments are short they say a lot. Windows 8 had the ability to be a great new addition but sadly to much was placed on making it similar to a tablet. The issue with this is that many of the problems faced by tablet users such as closing apps and not knowing what is running and long walk arounds to get where you want now exsist in the user interface for windows. It seems this was designed for touch screen owners only and even then the quality of design and usability sadly do not balance well. It is a shame as I would have enjoyed the metro style but having an ability to flip back to the old windows and have metro as secondary ability for my files and content I wanted fast and on demand or as an additional interface to interact with my tablet would have made far more sense in todays market.
So the biggest issue is that the design is to greatly built around touchscreen interface but fails to actually understand this is for a computer not a tablet and limiting the natural functions windows had was a bad move. I would suggest all users avoid windows 8 unless you own a touchscreen monitor and even with this said I still believe windows 7 is easier as a touchscreen system than windows 8 currently is.
MOUSE + KEYBOARD FIRST - TOUCHSCREEN SECOND
I really think it can all be summed up in this section right here. Consumers need to be weaned off of what they know and love....maybe make it with options we know and love which the option to use the new stuff...
Windows 8 is a big change from the standard windows operation systems. So of course many people will not like it, but at least give it a try before you just say you hate it.
Btw, I hate it.
You know I'd love if Microsoft would have a forum for us to post suggestions of what WE would pay (illegal download) for instead of what they think we'd like,
I believe this is the website you're looking for : Microsoft SuggestionBox.com — Customer Feedback Management Solution & Community Collaboration Platform
Don't think that suggestions posted will be viewable by the public though.
I've been using windows 8 for months and I must say it's a very small change from windows 7 and it is not a bold move from windows and not largely targeted at tablets at all
Did you guys even notice there's a desktop on that thing?
I haven't used a single metro app, and there IS a start menu, it's the metro screen, just type what you're looking for in it, it's like the old menu in windows 7 but in full screen and the ability to use tablet apps which I would never use on my desktop and so I just don't!
I don't see what the big fuss is about, windows 8 is faster and lighter on the system, it has a way better task manager and it improved file copy system, the start menu is now a full screen thing and suddenly half the world goes insane about how it's not windows anymore
I just don't get it why the ability to use metro apps makes people think you have to use them, just click Desktop and ditch the metro apps, then you have your old windows but better
I have to say the more I am using it the more I am agreeing with you....
I have downloaded a tweak that returns my windows orb on the toolbar on desktop ie:start button...another tweak allows me to log directly into the desktop...never seeing Metro unless I drag desktop down and close it....
I am still unhappy that I'm forced to use Bing...but have gotten another news app for metro that doesn't use Bing..but..I'm a technofiliac...I have to have the newest stuff....already have the IPhone 5...even though it pretty much is the exact same as my IPhone 4S was...Got the new Piledriver FX 8350 chip yesterday...just because it's new...hardly much difference than the Bulldozer was...and slower but newer than the i7...
The problem will be the non technofilias...the Regular Joe...they wont want to learn...and they make up alot of sales.
Have they ever given an actual reason for removing the start button/menu? Or is it simply to force us to use Metro?
I just hate that they changed things for the sake of making it a mobile OS. If I'm not on a mobile OS, why would I need the lack of functionality of one? If I open up a settings menu in a desktop OS I expect to have every option it can throw at me given. Granted Win7 sometimes limits this too, but Win8 is ridiculously simplified for a desktop OS.
Really they have done it backwards. Give people a normal desktop with the option of using a metro interface if they set it up to do that. Fair enough having the current setup for tablets, but it makes no sense for a desktop, they need to stop treating them the same.
Frankly I'd never buy a windows mobile at this point as I'm invested into android. I must have spent over £100 on apps by now which I'd instantly loose switching to windows. Unless MS can get google to let them use the android market there is simply no incentive for me to switch. I'm sure the same can be said for iOS people. If you are only just moving into the smartphone/PC OS market (or already have a windows phone, Gohan!) it makes sense for you to be able to share your apps between the two, but for the majority? No point.
So yeah I'll be sticking to Win7, might check out Win9 as MS has a history of jumping the shark every other OS.
This is just my opinion, but I like Windows 8. I've used the consumer preview (or w/e it's called - the one before the RTM), and I've already gotten used to the changes of Windows 8.
After you get used to it, you don't even notice the difference. Infact, I feel weird using Windows 7 now that I've gotten used to 8.
One thing I don't like is the integration between mobile/desktop - Sometimes gets in the way of getting things done faster on a mobile device.
I understand their objective to mainstream an operating system for all types of devices, but you simply cannot integrate both touch and mouse so that they feel comfortable no matter which device you're using. There will always be flaws in this.
I do believe removing the start button was done to force metro, just like you don't have the option to boot in metro or in normal desktop mode. MS is definitely trying to force the new way of working with Windows, as a user I don't like it and I'm not sure how it will effect sales, that said, if you want Metro to be used on all computers, then forcing is the only way really since people tend to stick with what they know and they will never learn about Metro if they don't have to. In the end it's a huge risk.
The apps is definitely a issue, especially since it's connected to your account, you can't even sell them with the phone. Personally I could switch since 95% of the money spend on my account is for games, so I could just keep using it as a gaming device, but say if you bought navigation software, then switching is not an option.
Still the majority of the people have spend nothing or almost nothing on their phones, so they can still switch. We will see how it goes, the Lumia 920 is definitely popular, how that translates to sales remains the question.
Im sure there will be third party themes available to allow Windows 8 desktops to have a start button and look exactly like Windows 7, so not to worry much about it
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Start8 for Windows 8 by Stardock :) I use it now.
It's a simple 5$ program that does what it says on the tin, I love it :) The good thing is that you can still use the Metro interface alongside this start menu addon!
Stardock is nice, i used it for my XP once to give my comp a Vista feel ^^
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