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Why would you? There has never been a successful vb emulation project, and there's a reason why. No matter how much time you spend doing it, even a buggy 500 line C based core will outshine it by 1000x, why spend all that time fucking around in VB when you can wing it with C and do a 1000x better job?
Logic dictates it's foolish to even attempt. Why are you?
I'm not learning how to do it. I already know how. I'm just comparing certain techniques.
I already said that it is for personal research. Why do you care? Thanks for another useless comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
Because the entire concept is a waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
If you want to know how many ways people can (and do) do things differently than you, I'll save you some time: they're countless.
If you want to know the most ingenious methods or most efficient, most are well documented and you won't find them in VB sources.
There's MANY times more C code out there that matches your query than VB code. Rather than asking around for VB projects, go search sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/search), or instead, ask a direct question to us. You're wasting our time and doing so in a pointless and meaningless fashion which is much less likely to get you an answer to what you're looking for than directly asking.
Visual basic is just an extended BASIC (though.. somehow less functional than BASIC.. odd) to Microsoft closed standards with functionality that allows access to their proprietary window classes and runtimes through COM objects and the like. Any "good" server will interface with the system via native API (calling win32 API directly from VB), which is more direct and easier to implement in C/C++ or a variety of other languages. There's nothing fruitful to be found in a search for a server written in VB except maybe someone who was bright enough to use .NET for binary streams, or in vb6 to use a C/C++ DLL for binary streams, and the good ole lots of hex2str and str2hex hackery to get things done which should never be viewed as an example of how to do anything. If your language requires significant performance degrading HACKS like that to make your software work properly -- choose another language. You're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, measures aside, idealogically flawed.
Its my time I'm "wasting", not yours. Do not turn my thread in to a Language vs. Language debate. Kindly stay the fuck out if you do not want to stick with the topic.
I have reasons for what I'm doing. If you don't agree then that is fine. Don't post in my thread.
And I'm telling you with more experience than you'll ever have that what you're doing is the worst possible way to go about accomplishing whatever you believe you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
I have a very specific reason for what I'm doing. I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
Apparently you don't know what stop posting in my thread means. I don't want your C/C++ fanboy attitude. You people are so stuck on one opinion and that opinion is C++ is better than anything and anyone who knows it is superior to all other programmers. Sorry to burst your bubble but its not true.
Once again, kindly fuck off.
Lol, I love the ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
Please continue your search while I try and find an OS built in VB........ oh wait.
I'm obviously not trying to build an entire operating system in VB.Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
ANY experienced programmer knows that there are different reasons to use different languages. C++ is NOT always the best choice. C++ fanboys, like yourself, will always think otherwise. You've got it drilled in your head that no matter what, C++ is superior to everything.
I sincerely hope you're talking about yourself when you say you love the ignorance, because you're the one looking stupid right now. There was no need for you to come in this thread and start up a debate over languages. If C++ was superior to every other language in every way possible, there would not be people who use VB.NET on a professional level making money, or any other language for that matter.
Its people like you who make even bothering to post on this forum completely not enjoyable.
Why don't you explain what it is you wish to do here and ask for advice, rather than be opaque about your goals? Asking if anyone has ever heard of someone carving a 25 sq inch figurine out of wood with a chainsaw is only going to pull obvious questions: "why the FUCK would you even want to try that? get a knife!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
Exactly. I use plenty of other languages more than I ever get to use C++, and when it's appropriate, it's a nice treat often met with haste and a quick goodbye at how efficient and quickly the job is done. Languages are tools, you pick the one most appropriate for the project. You appear to be inquiring about writing a SERVER APPLICATION, which as it just so happens, C++ is the leading language in developing this type of software with a few contenders below it (quite a ways), and with VB laughably at the very bottom of the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
There was every need. This forum is called "Coders' Paradise." It cannot be a paradise with ignorant fools coming in here and parading around asking stupid questions without clearly indicating what they are trying to do to let us best assist and keep this place a paradise. In short, we don't need trash in here, and you've littered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
Additionally, people who use VB.NET on a professional level to make money are working in niche environments where end-user level interfacing is where the big $$ is coming from (selling to corporate customers for example). And even so, VB.NET isn't the best tool for this, oddly enough. If you indicate on your resume that you're a "professional VB.NET developer" when applying to most jobs that are not of this type (which are exceedingly rare, boring, or underpaid), you will be laughed at under the table.
Ask your question. Don't ask to ask. Don't ask questions about your question. ASK YOUR FUCKING QUESTION.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
We are coders, we are concise and to the point. We don't appreciate fucking around. The reason the regulars to this board haven't replied here with meaningful or helpful replies is because THEY SIMPLY CANNOT. Why? Because it is IMPOSSIBLE with how poorly you've constructed it and handled yourself.
In fact, with how you've handled this, it's almost not even appropriate for this forum in any way.
You are such an idiot stop trying to tell some one you are right. using C or C++ DOESNT NOT make things better. If i wrote a server in C++ to say echo a message and the same in Java guess which would be better? the Java one simply because i know the language if you think using C++ or C makes you so great (i highly doubt you know them) you seriously need to learn about other languages btw VB.NET is just as powerful as C# and yes there is a OS wrote in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
@Ron try using VB.NET and yes it is possible all the old habbo servers are wrote in VB6 and there was one in VB.NET.
Comparing apples to oranges often makes you look like an idiot. C# was never mentioned here, C# and VB.NET are both constructs from Microsoft bastardizing standardized languages using their .NET framework (which is where the real "power" comes from here).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
And no, there doesn't exist an OS built in VB.NET. You need to bootstrap the CLR and .NET libraries (which are built in C++, oddly enough!), which are built for windows (aside from mono ports to linux). So you'd need to start with a windows or linux kernel, which means the OS isn't in VB.NET. It would be highly difficult to write anything that would even bootstrap the language without something as low level as C.
Stop being ignorant.
you dont realy see the advanges of C++, you can build very powerfull packet class, send sturcts, pointers, easy access to memory...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
it will be faster of any code that you can code using C#/JAVA
i prefer to build all my servers in C++, iam coding the for "fun" servers using C#...
VB6 is bad choice, did you saw how useless garbage the program doing?
VB.NET is better cause it use NET, but well many poeple will just grab the button and copy&paste code if thats the first lang they learn, but still its depends on the one whos coding
i personaly hate VB,JAVA, cause no pointers, no memory access and some more
You clearly didnt read my post, Yes C++ may be more powerfull but the quality of the code can MAKE IT ALOT WORSE that the same app wrote in java etc as its a) easier and b) has its own gcQuote:
Originally Posted by ThreeSix
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I was trying to make a point but obviously you didnt get it anyway Microsoft Singularity RDK wrote in C# (http://www.codeplex.com/singularity). I am trying to say that poor code in c++ can be as infective as something wrote in vb etc. Where as if it was wrote in say vb by some one who knows the language it would be alot more effective than its counterpart in c++. The reason i mentioned C# is because its compiled to the same form as VB.NET (forgotten the name of it now).Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
This has gone so far, Ron was only asking if anyone has coded an emulator using VB/VB.net
Most of you didn't understand what the question is.
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a) easier and b) has its own gc
easier = less you know about how things works
gc = well its kinda bad gc, C# gc is not that good, javas too...
its better to code and look for memory leaks with some tweaks using c++...
but yea if you are begginer and you are coding with C# you should stay with and get experience
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VB6 server will be bad,VB.NET a little better
JAVA,C#,C++ is good choices i prefer C++ although i coded 90% of my emus in C#...