[MUST READ] A basic run down of the industry..

[PR0]

Thats why most songs on the radio now have stupid anthems or dances. Hip hop is a powerful tool that can influence how you think and feel, people listen to the beat and not the lyrics, and while you're listening to that beat in the background, your sub-conscious picks it up and you eventually turn into that person rapping in that generic song about money, fame, and sex. No big deal though, people still listen to this mainstream shit.

The Golden Era of Hip Hop encouraged listeners to question authority and the state of the world. So it was followed by an effort from the government to slow it down, after learning how powerful media can be. Not only media as in telivision, all of it. Bill Clinton signed the 1996 Telecommunications Act which allowed the big boys to buy up all the stations, in other words, power hungry higher ups to control what we listen to on the radio, control what gets onto the charts, and when you boil it all down, control what we're exposed to in general. Hence you have the same mind numbing programming nationwide, everything politically correct, CNN feeding you lies, Canadian news doesn't tell you anything except missing puppies and the ongoing problem of homelessness. I mean come on, have you looked at the province paper which is issued in B.C.? It's all negative bullshit, you'll understand this if you watch the videos provided at the bottom.(For an example, today's paper says "Luongo Lost C", not including the positive side that he can now focus on his game. Writers are trained to write like this.)

Nothings real in the music industry anymore, artists sign away their souls in exchange for money, sex and fame which is exactly what they're paid to promote. Labels tell them what to do, wear, and say. If popular artists stray away from the mainstream bullshit, they get their image defaced, put in jail, then when they come out they usually get put 9ft under a few years later. This about the getting put 9ft under is just a theory based on a few artists this has happened to. It happened to MJ, he had his new album coming out "This Is It", the tour looked even better than his previous, and he honestly could have pulled us out of the recession single handedly. If you're still with me on this and think there's a possibility this is true, which it is, keep reading. If not, go to the links at the bottom and watch those. Anyways, let's continue. DMX didn't like what the industry was doing, and he talked out against them, in "Lord Give Me a Sign" and many more. In this song he feels alone, says he need's God's help and that he's gone the wrong way, which is Illuminati. (Helping Illuminati control a whole nation to worship the devil.)

After DMX does so, he gets convicted falsely of possesion of illegal narcotics, which was said to be cocaine. He said this wasn't true, and in the video provided below you'll hopefully be convinced of that as well.

There is so much in this world that is deceiving, and if you believe it all, you're a moron. Believe none of what you see, and only half of what you hear. It sounds corny, but it's honestly what you feel is right and deep down are content with the choices you make and life style you live. Youtube and other online media sites are the only way for people to voice their opinion, and even now these videos are slowly being censored.

Are you going to go back to your life which I can put money on the fact you're not happy with, listen to music which is terrible but believe MTV and Much More Music when they say it's good, and be a sheep of the media?

OR will you realize that not eveything is what it seems to be, and open your eyes and hopefully even have a new point of view on life?

Either way, next time you're out, take your time, look around you, and get out of the city. Even go to the beach, and just sit there and appreciate how beautiful everything is, how it got there, and just enjoy it. Put away your cell phones and technology opposed to taking it out on the bus etc to avoid looking around and being social. The world's gone to shit, and you have to start somewhere to change it.

HERE ARE SOME RELATED LINKS:

Video links

Michael Jackson speaking out against the music indurstry aka $ony & Tommy Matolla:
- YouTube - Michael's speech about $ony & Tommy Mottola - $ony Kills Music
- Cinco – Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! Season Cinco Premieres February 28th on Adult Swim | Career Videos (Tommy Matolla oddly enough getting rights to all unreleased music, aka "This Is It" and many more soon to be released)


Why Michael Jackson was killed:
- YouTube - ILLUMINATI, MUSIC INDUSTRY AND WHY MICHAEL JACKSON WAS KILLED (PART 1) (Part One)
- YouTube - Illuminati, Music Industry and WHY MICHAEL JACKSON WAS KILLED High Definition Part 2 (Part Two)

New World Order (NWO)
- New World Order (conspiracy theory) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Political Version linked on the page)

The music industry EXPOSED series

- YouTube - THE MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPOSED - References (Part 1/11) (Part One)
- YouTube - THE MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPOSED - Why In Plain Sight? (Part 2/11) (Part Two)
- YouTube - THE MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPOSED - Who Is Rain Man? (Part 3/11) (Part Three)
- YouTube - THE MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPOSED - Rain Man Continued (Part 4/11) (Part Four)
- YouTube - THE MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPOSED - Devils Night (Part 5/11) (Part Five - includes DMX)
- YouTube - THE MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPOSED - Destroying DMX (Part 6/11) (Part Six - DMX con't)
***If you've watched this much of these you can find them on your own. The series goes on and on.***

Eminem speaking out against Illuminati (Even in new album Recovery) Part 10 of industry exposed series
- YouTube - Eminem's Illuminati Escape

[MentaL]

[DaCheat]

As someone who works for the music industry I can say about 90% of your post is pretty much wrong. First I'll start by staying what's right...

The radio station you're talking about is called Clear Channel Communications, and yes it sucks. It owns over 1,000 stations or just about 80% of all stations nation wide, and pulls in about $7billion every year.

Nothings real in the music industry anymore

This I also agree with. A&R teams are what make music popular. That and amazing producers. The main label you can look to for a perfect example is Disney. They always start a young kid who is sweet and innocent. (Why do they start with young kinds?) Because they sell at least 2 tickets for every concert. One for a kid, the other to a parent... Now that the young artist is getting older saaaaaay 17 they will start making them dress a little sluttier. Why? Because their fan base is getting older and that's how they dress/act. Once they turn 18 something happens that hits the headlines for good or worse. JT, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, and most recently Miley Myrus have all had major "carrier effecting events" that hit around that time. Did it really effect their carrier? Or is that just he label keeping them in the headlines because they know their fan base is dying out...



Now with the rest of the article which is pretty much wrong.

The "Golden Area" of hiphop didn't question authority.. That was West Coast rap in the early 90s started by N.W.A. on Ruthless Records. The Golden Age was late 70s early 80s with artists like: DJ Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash, and Run-D.M.C.

If popular artists stray away from the mainstream bullshit, they get their image defaced, put in jail, then when they come out they usually get put 9ft under a few years later.

Just..... No.


Ending with all your conspiracy theories. I'm not even going to get into them...

You can look in to anything and some how connect one party to it and create a conspiracy... I didn't eat breakfast this morning. Holy shit the government is trying to kill me! That doesn't make any sense, just like the last half of your post.

Most Conspiracy sites dig in deep to create their own versions of what really happened, to drive traffic to their sites and make them money. It's up to you to figure out what is, and isn't true.

[PR0]

As someone who works for the music industry I can say about 90% of your post is pretty much wrong. First I'll start by staying what's right...

Really? 90%? Alright well let me prove you wrong with pretty much everything you questioned me about.

The radio station you're talking about is called Clear Channel Communications, and yes it sucks. It owns over 1,000 stations or just about 80% of all stations nation wide, and pulls in about $7billion every year.

I'm not speaking of a specific station, I'm talking about an act that Bill Clinton signed, much like the terrible act that allowed banks to be privatized. If you're telling me that all these songs on the radio right now are solely there because they're good songs, which require no skill for the "artists" to sing in, and pretty much only promote sex, violence; then you're mistaken.

A great example of when this image discretion they use with music and artists comes into act is when an amazing artist Vinnie Paz got turned down by the industry solely because of the reason that he's Italian, and not black.

You're not getting the bigger picture that I'm trying to get across, I have many deep ideas, and if you honestly let yourself think about it, it makes a lot more sense to as why these songs ARE on the charts.

This I also agree with. A&R teams are what make music popular. That and amazing producers. The main label you can look to for a perfect example is Disney. They always start a young kid who is sweet and innocent. (Why do they start with young kinds?) Because they sell at least 2 tickets for every concert. One for a kid, the other to a parent... Now that the young artist is getting older saaaaaay 17 they will start making them dress a little sluttier. Why? Because their fan base is getting older and that's how they dress/act. Once they turn 18 something happens that hits the headlines for good or worse. JT, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, and most recently Miley Myrus have all had major "carrier effecting events" that hit around that time. Did it really effect their carrier? Or is that just he label keeping them in the headlines because they know their fan base is dying out...

You're being very close minded with this response. Sure, if you want to look at the bare minimum with what they make it out to be, then sure you'll come to that conclusion. How can you honestly think though that music doesn't have more of an influence on you than just bobbing your head?

Come on now, masses of people dress a certain way because someone in a music video dresses that way, it's more than that and if you think these producers and music executives don't know that, give your head a shake.

If you're in the industry and you're not underground, get the fuck out. They're evil fucks and they just use an abuse artists for money until they can't use them anymore. They manipulate them with pills, get them hooked, then if they try to stray away from the industry, they deface their image and honestly this is a harsh theory, but it's happened too many times to deny it. In the end they murder them. If you want some simple examples, just look at Michael Jackson, Tupac Shakur, Marilyn Monroe (Her story's a bit different though), DMX, and many others I can't be assed to think about right now.

Now with the rest of the article which is pretty much wrong.

The "Golden Area" of hiphop didn't question authority.. That was West Coast rap in the early 90s started by N.W.A. on Ruthless Records. The Golden Age was late 70s early 80s with artists like: DJ Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash, and Run-D.M.C.

What part of the industry did you say you're in? Haha because I know you're wrong for sure on that one. The golden age isn't actually set in stone, but according to many music experts, it was the late 80s and early 90s. Artists included: Run-DMC, Public Enemy, Dead Prez, N.W.A, Tupac, Jedi Mind Tricks, Vinnie Paz, A Tribe Called Quest, Jungle Brothers, and many more.

Ending with all your conspiracy theories. I'm not even going to get into them...

You can look in to anything and some how connect one party to it and create a conspiracy... I didn't eat breakfast this morning. Holy shit the government is trying to kill me! That doesn't make any sense, just like the last half of your post.

It's only once the facts of a conspiracy become more plausible than the facts of the released story. Do you honestly believe everything your T.V. tells you? I mean come on now, that's just plain ignorant and American of you.

Most Conspiracy sites dig in deep to create their own versions of what really happened, to drive traffic to their sites and make them money. It's up to you to figure out what is, and isn't true.

That's funny, and ironic. Without even going to any conspiracy sites or looking into any of their information, that's awfully ignorant for you to come up with a post like that.

The ironic part is, wouldn't it be your own conspiracy to say that it's only there for them to generate traffic and revenue? lol..

[troublemaker1111]

You think because you watched a few youtube videos and visited a couple of conspiracy pages you're somehow enlightened? You really have no fucking clue.

[PR0]

You think because you watched a few youtube videos and visited a couple of conspiracy pages you're somehow enlightened? You really have no fucking clue.

You think because a music executive tells you different he's telling the truth?

Did I say I'm enlightened at any point at all in this thread? Everything I wrote out is true and verified knowledge. Don't be so ignorant to tell me I have no clue when you've done no research bud.

[Savage]

You think because a music executive tells you different he's telling the truth?

Did I say I'm enlightened at any point at all in this thread? Everything I wrote out is true and verified knowledge. Don't be so ignorant to tell me I have no clue when you've done no research bud.

Verify that it's verified please.

[troublemaker1111]

You think because a music executive tells you different he's telling the truth?

Did I say I'm enlightened at any point at all in this thread? Everything I wrote out is true and verified knowledge. Don't be so ignorant to tell me I have no clue when you've done no research bud.

No music executive has ever told me anything actually. You're the same as every other moron who believes in all the wacky shit they read on the internet. You think everyone is ignorant but yourself, but I've probably read more about the Illuminati than you have. The difference is I'm not an idiot.

[MentaL]

DaCheat is a music producer so be careful what you say lol.

[PR0]

Verify that it's verified please.

Match it with some of your own information to counter mine then maybe I'll be bothered to do it.

No music executive has ever told me anything actually. You're the same as every other moron who believes in all the wacky shit they read on the internet. You think everyone is ignorant but yourself, but I've probably read more about the Illuminati than you have. The difference is I'm not an idiot.

And you're the same as every uneducated kid who decides to drop in to up his post count by putting down what I said.

Wouldn't it be ignorant to post a few sentences with nothing to counter my information, prove me wrong, or even give any feed back at all on what I actually said?

All you did with that post was put me down, call me a moron, ignorant, and hard headed, then you proceed to procrastinate about how you've "probably" read more about the Illuminati than I have.

Then with the closing sentence, you use another way to express how much of a moron I am by using an oxymoron by saying you're not an idiot.

Who seems like an idiotic moron now?

DaCheat is a music producer so be careful what you say lol.

It's easy as fuck to be a music producer, doesn't mean that you know anything about the industry though. There's lots of underground artists who are producers and have nothing to do with the industry.

If you've heard any known music stars who have spoken about the industry, it's not good feedback. Artists who have spoken out against it are: DMX, Michael Jackson, Eminem, Tupac, Mariah Carey, Dead Prez, Immortal Technique, Vinnie Paz, the list goes on.




Please, if anyones going to put down this thread, GIVE BACK SOME DECENT INFORMATION OF YOUR OWN.

[troublemaker1111]

Who seems like an idiotic moron now?

You. Trust me.

[PR0]

You. Trust me.

Quit spamming the thread kid..

"Please, if anyones going to put down this thread, GIVE BACK SOME DECENT INFORMATION OF YOUR OWN."

[DaCheat]

There is a major difference between giving information, and giving information that is wrong. No matter what we say you will come back with something that is completely outrages. The fact that I agreed with you on points yet you still called me closed minded.

Why even bother.

I agreed that the Music Business takes advantage of people, ruins lives, and only cares about one thing. Money. But to say that they're killing their artists? Hell no.

That Eminem video is pretty good, only take out anything religious. "Illuminati" my ass. He took pills because he was touring 6 days out of the week 250 days a year. And when he wasn't touring he was in the studio. Which gave him 0 down time.

Oh and if you think I'm some hack look up the name Andre Fischer beings you are so good at research. I've worked under him for over 5 years. No I'm not some "Artist" making "sit beats on my PC computer" this is what I do for a living.

[PR0]

There is a major difference between giving information, and giving information that is wrong. No matter what we say you will come back with something that is completely outrages. The fact that I agreed with you on points yet you still called me closed minded.

Why even bother.

I agreed that the Music Business takes advantage of people, ruins lives, and only cares about one thing. Money. But to say that they're killing their artists? Hell no.

That Eminem video is pretty good, only take out anything religious. "Illuminati" my ass. He took pills because he was touring 6 days out of the week 250 days a year. And when he wasn't touring he was in the studio. Which gave him 0 down time.

Oh and if you think I'm some hack look up the name Andre Fischer beings you are so good at research. I've worked under him for over 5 years. No I'm not some "Artist" making "sit beats on my PC computer" this is what I do for a living.

I'm sorry if I offended you, I have to admit I am intense with this topic only because I get annoyed when people tell me I'm wrong when they've done no research on the topic.

The term "Illuminati" I use loosely. I use it for a group of power hungry people, who are hardcore evil and will do anything to get what they want. For example, since the banks were privatized, they bought up many companies and such during the scam of the great depression they created. The Bilderburgs, Rockafellers, etc. I'm not educated enough to say that it's black magic like the original Illumnati, neither is there information acquired.


Again, not to offend you, but you only agreed with 10% of everything I posted, and with the way you opened your post with saying "You're 90% wrong" is obviously going to make me defensive. The only thing you did agree with were the radio stations, and that's a given.

Also, with the term "close minded" I'm not trying to offend you. It's just the fact that only certain people I know can grasp these theories, and the rest do exactly what you do, don't even think or consider the theories for yourself and right when you're posting you're ready to shoot me down.

If you want a better idea as to why I believe in this theory, it's a lot more probable for me than what they say on T.V. in my opinion. Rather than what the front man says, I trust the artist first.

[DaCheat]

It's just the fact that only certain people I know can grasp these theories, and the rest do exactly what you do, don't even think or consider the theories for yourself and right when you're posting you're ready to shoot me down.

I can "grasp" them. I just know from being in the business for over 6 years that they're wrong. Yes, major labels are evil. Everyone knows that, but they don't kill people. Like I said before all they care about is money. And I do know for a fact that A&R teams and Producers are the main reason artists get popular. Not because they're talented, but because they have the "look."

Take a gander at Kings of Leon for example. This is when they first started getting real press back in 2003. With their album "Youth and Young Manhood." This is what they looked, and sounded like back then. This is the sound that got them started getting fame in the UK, but it wasn't picking up in America, at all.

YouTube - Kings of Leon - Trani

SO an A&R team and a few producers later and this is what you get. The new and improved Kings of Leon.

YouTube - Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire

Big fuckin difference. Now they are a huge sensation in America, because they totally changed they way they look and sound. That's what happens when you stop caring about your own music and let others write it for you. Sure their fans say that it's just their music "growing and expanding," but name 5 artists who actually cared about their music and not money, who changed that much.

All of that being said I am agreeing with you that almost nothing in this industry is real anymore. That just went to show it. As far as the Music biz killing people... that's just stupid.

[Savage]

I can "grasp" them. I just know from being in the business for over 6 years that they're wrong. Yes, major labels are evil. Everyone knows that, but they don't kill people. Like I said before all they care about is money. And I do know for a fact that A&R teams and Producers are the main reason artists get popular. Not because they're talented, but because they have the "look."

Take a gander at Kings of Leon for example. This is when they first started getting real press back in 2003. With their album "Youth and Young Manhood." This is what they looked, and sounded like back then. This is the sound that got them started getting fame in the UK, but it wasn't picking up in America, at all.

YouTube - Kings of Leon - Trani

SO an A&R team and a few producers later and this is what you get. The new and improved Kings of Leon.

YouTube - Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire

Big fuckin difference. Now they are a huge sensation in America, because they totally changed they way they look and sound. That's what happens when you stop caring about your own music and let others write it for you. Sure their fans say that it's just their music "growing and expanding," but name 5 artists who actually cared about their music and not money, who changed that much.

All of that being said I am agreeing with you that almost nothing in this industry is real anymore. That just went to show it. As far as the Music biz killing people... that's just stupid.

Wow dude, that stuff about Kings of Leon is pretty phenomenal. Sad, though. Can't believe they were actually once... good.