I can do this but players won't do this.. :*:Quote:
Originally Posted by _Endi_
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I can do this but players won't do this.. :*:Quote:
Originally Posted by _Endi_
Endi make it work on old versions UCP
Good job but there is one important aspect that is missed out in protecting from in many antihack programs... Using LowLevelApi's to control the application like WriteProcessMemory.
LOL format c drive, seriously man. I'm playing on a server that just introduced this crappy anti-hack and after update, I can't connect cause it says "modificated version windows"; I'm not gonna reinstall my whole system just cause of one noob anti-hack in one game. I have win 7 32bit btw. I would loose all registry, installations of games and settings. I'm not the only one with problems, there are about 80 people on this server that have the same problem, you want them all to reinstall their systems? You think they are all hackers? LOL, no way, you better fix that noob anti-cheat cause it can't even tell a normal program or system from hacks. It's your problem to make it compatible with systems, not players'. Right now this is just a really noob and incompatible anti-hack, that does more damage than it does good, by preventing a lot of normal, fair players from playing the game.
So what if someone has modificated version of windows? There are millions of people like that, it doesn't mean anything, this system check is ridiculous and should be removed.
To all the admins and server owners out there: If you don't wanna loose players, DON'T install this UCP crap cause it only works with about 50% systems.
UCP = Incompatible, incomplete crap
Until this problem is fixed, I will always say that UCP is total crap.
BTW. I scanned my whole hdd with 4 different anti-virus programs, one after another, and they found NOTHING, so this is not a problem. I don't have any hacks and I'm not infected with any viruses, and still the crappy UCP doesn't let me play MU like a normal, honest player.
UCP provides good protection, but you wright about compatibilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Palpatine
i dont have +100500 users online on my server, so i abandon it
Better to build your own anticheat system :P
Those are some of the error reports people have on win 7:
http://www.bildites.lv/images/dqyf9eic9f6xvdul61k8.jpg
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/6527/ucpc.jpg
I'm getting something similar. It's incompatible with the newest win 7 update, that is the problem I think. Besides the second screenshot shows a problem with hidden d3d8 module, says that UCP doesn't like hidden programs cause they might affect main. Yeah right, direct3d in the graphic card driver package. LOL Endi your antihack might offer a good protection but its compatibility is fcking L A M E, you're protecting against non-existent threats. Maybe you should blacklist explorer.exe too cause it can inject .dlls into executables hahaha. What a noob anti-hack.
Such a shame people install it on their servers, it ruins the game for normal players, but at the same time any serious hacker will defeat it anyway. Conclusion: The greatest victims of the ucp anti-hack are normal players with windows 7. Plus it's only good for widely available hacks, but anything custom can kill it.
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Rofl is that all you can say? That's the problem that half of the people on the server I'm playing have, and all you can say is "no sorry"?
How many people need to have this same stupid error for you to understand that this is not user system's problem, but UCP's problem?
You want everybody to reinstall windows 7 with 2009 updates so your noob antihack will work?
I have to reinstall system and disable windows updates cause you have a noob system and can't program it to be compatible?
That's one more reason why nobody should use this noob anti-hack. It has compatibility problems for windows 7 and when the programmer is asked to fix them he responds "no, sorry". That's ridiculous.
Palpatine, you cheater :)
No. I'm not a cheater, I'm a normal player.
Is this your only response? Since the client doesn't work for me, then I'm a cheater? This is a false accusation based on nothing. You might as well accuse 50+ other people on ONE server of cheating hahaha. You're telling me anybody that has problems with ucp is a cheater? You're a noob then.
I'm a normal player and I want to play but your crap anti-hack says "modificated version windows" LOL. No viruses (I checked) no hacks, clean system, installed 2 days ago.
Explain to me exactly in technical terms why it says "modificated version windows" and I can't play?
If you can't, then stfu and don't call me a cheater.
If you can't stand a constructive criticism of your anti-cheat's lousy compatibility then don't advertise that crap.
Try to understand that I don't want your anti-cheat removed; it's good to have some anti-cheat cause I hate wanna-be hackers ruining my gameplay.
I just want it to WORK PROPERLY, and I'm not gonna reinstall my system again for that.
If would really have 50 people did not work, I think the admin would have removed the anti-cheat.
Endi i must agree ,
Mine server 90% users got problems run the UCP.exe
that means 20 people connect normal from ucp.exe
other has win32 error others shows message with windows..
this stings must be removed
Admin removed the ucp for some time, but there was a lot of hackers and ucp came back. Now there are still people that use DC hack even with your anti-hack, so yeah UCP = Crap.
BTW. I read a little bit and I managed to defeat your super security, even though I'm no hacker.
I'm playing now without UCP and it all works. Finally I don't have any errors. It's a shame that wanna-be programmers like you release crap like UCP and lie to people that it's a good protection.
I am however a fair player and I hacked your noob UCP just to be able to play the game. Without removing it, I couldn't play because you're such a lame coder that you can't make one compatible program.
I ask again:
Explain to me exactly in technical terms why it says "modificated version windows" and I can't play?
If you are so pr0 to remove UCP, then debug why it says "modificated version windows" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Palpatine
Oh for god sake, just catch a login packet and use clean main!
That's exactly what I did, so it's no big deal. And I'm not a pro hacker lol, just a beginner actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by nanoman
I didn't exactly debug ucp.exe cause there's no point at this moment, I just bypassed it. Ucp.exe is packed and obfuscated, it would take a load of time, effort and skills to unpack it and get a more or less clean executable with everything visible. But it's not my task. It's Endi's.
He's the anti-hack coder so he should know why ucp.exe produces this error about modificated version of windows. Obviously he's more lame a coder than I'm a hacker and he can't even figure out whats wrong with his own program. Or his AH's security is such a blocky and inefficient work that he doesn't want to reveal his incompetence to the world lol. Either way, I did what had to be done, but didn't receive ANY reasonable, exhaustive response to my questions. What a surprise.
UCP Rox!!!!111one
Server have 150+ players online :thumbdown:
Server owner wannaBe a man (wannabe me) and put anticheat on server called UCP i and my friends (the cheaters) still can unfraud lvlup and use illegal aps :closedeyes: while a normal players cant now even join server and now online max is 30 players
Good work and nice tribute :ott1:
Hahaha thank you Endi for giving hackers something to laugh at and ruining the game play for honest players.Quote:
Originally Posted by mauka
Hooray for Unbelievably Crappy Protection.
I'm really confused ... finally does it work on windows 7 or my players won't play coz of the errors?
This what will be with your honest players on start game:
and my lunatic army still be able join server with cheats :love:Code:- Windows Seven (x64) Build 7600
- Modificated version windows
Solution from UCP developer:
I doubt how many players ( how old they are? ) knows how reinstall windows and if they know they will do it? i think easy way is go to another server and play there without reinstallin windows again and again and again and again untill infinity :DDDDQuote:
Reinstall your windows, u hacker :<:
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Originally Posted by _Endi_
ENDI you have good intensions with anthihack, especially making it for free. Tnx you for that, but its no good at the moment for muonline.
Good luck in future to improve it tho.
cheers.
Hey Grisha I play on your server and I really enjoy it.
I was really pissed when I couldn't play because of ucp.
I hope it you will never use it again, but I also hope that players will return, now that everything works ok.
There was 140-150 players before, now max is 60 or even less.
Thanks for installing new anti-hack.
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PS. To Endi - I agree with Grisha, you had good intentions, but you failed badly. Lierning told you on mpc what is wrong: no online authentication. Everybody can read a guide and just replace ucp.exe with new clean main, copy serial and version packets during login and bypass your antihack completely. Nobody has to unpack it - no need for that since bypas is quicker, easier and more effective.
Instead of fixing that, you started to protect some portions of operating system that nobody ever uses for hacking - that's a huge mistake, you didn't improve security, only made it more incompatible. Enable encrypted online authentication and fix all incompatibility issues and your AH has a future. Otherwise - don't bother.
so , in the end , should i use or not use UCP anti-hack system ?
Do you want to depend on Endi? Want to lose half of your server players? Then use this anti cheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ana_blonda71
Regardless of how good he is, look at things realistically - a private server with a maximum online 500-600 do not need such protection.
Very often people do not understand a simple thing that costs a certain level of protection should be justified. That is if, applied to the Mu Online server, damage from cracking or leakage of information is small and easily recovered, then protection we needed is a simple, stable and easy to use.
NO hard coded comlicated solutions for this. It's not "million players server". Do it simple.
What does this mean in practice?
1. Need a program without the weight of NET Framework and similar. Players do not want to bother searching and installing run time libraries. That is necessary a low weight application (clean win api or wrapper to it - it's variant).
2. Add simple protection to start - check under the appropriate system and if we do we have administrative rights.
3. Times per second - check the windows, processes, critical files (Item.bmd and similar), check whether there is hidden processes. If there is something wrong - exit.
4. Add logs to file like _MuError.log and show clear error description to player that describes what's wrong.
4. Molebox (encrypt + pack, i mean) it.
5. That's it.
I wanted to say - no reason to complicate something that should be simple.
the anti-cheat is good...i have used on my server(Season2) and haved 80-90 online players...and yes it's facking annoing win32 error / shows message with modified windows / players can't play with 2 accounts (u will lose some online players)...but at all it's a free work :wink: so respect for endi :closedeyes:
list of hacks block?