[Web Dev] Excellent Website Developer Needed

[Nafei]

Hello people!

After taking a long break from website designing, I decided to come back again. This time I'm looking for a website developer to team up with me (website designer), and make a website where we sell websites! Wow.. That was a weird sentence.

- I'll be designing the website.
- You'll be coding the website.

Everything we earn, we will split 50/50.

What is needed from you:
- Coding websites is a piece of cake for you. (You know your coding languages!)
- You're very active and do your job as quickly as possible. It doesn't mean you shouldn't have a life outside.
- Mature and want to do this for a long time.
- You'll be transforming PSD's to websites.

If this sounds interesting, please contact me by sending me a private message! I'll be glad to hear from you. :-)

Some of my previous work (but not all):
One whole page:
http://peecee.dk/uploads/122013/Untitled-31.jpg
http://peecee.dk/uploads/122013/Untitled-42.jpg
http://peecee.dk/uploads/122013/Untitled-21.jpg
http://peecee.dk/uploads/122013/Untitled-18.png
http://peecee.dk/uploads/122013/Untitled-51.jpg

Made these for fun:
http://peecee.dk/uploads/112013/Udklip8.PNG
http://peecee.dk/uploads/112013/Unavngivet12.png
http://peecee.dk/uploads/052013/MapleDragon.PNG
http://peecee.dk/uploads/052013/Infernal_Network.png

Another black theme site:
http://peecee.dk/uploads/102012/EluneMaple13.png

I hope you have a nice day!

[MentaL]

[Luxray]

Nafei always does a great job! You've got my vouch.

[Nafei]

Nafei always does a great job! You've got my vouch.

Thanks for the nice words!

[DtN]

I like the webdesigns. However..

Everything we earn, we will split 50/50.

Seems quite odd to me that the coder "only" gets 50% of the payment. Don't get me wrong, gfx artists should get a decent pay too, but from a coder-perspective 50% of the total payment is quite low.

Specially when a customer wants to buy a website and you (as a coder) won't do the design yourself and you hire someone else to do it, then you wouldn't be paying him 50% of the total price, and when you count how many hours of work each part put into it, then I would dare say coding takes up more hours.

[Nafei]

I like the webdesigns. However..

Seems quite odd to me that the coder "only" gets 50% of the payment. Don't get me wrong, gfx artists should get a decent pay too, but from a coder-perspective 50% of the total payment is quite low.

Specially when a customer wants to buy a website and you (as a coder) won't do the design yourself and you hire someone else to do it, then you wouldn't be paying him 50% of the total price, and when you count how many hours of work each part put into it, then I would dare say coding takes up more hours.

I see what you mean but.. Designing take a lot of time (sometimes more than coding the actual website). It is the most important part of the website creation process as it's the one which will determine it's success. Of course I'm taking about if you design the website properly and not sloppy.

[Hikatsu]

I like the webdesigns. However..

Seems quite odd to me that the coder "only" gets 50% of the payment. Don't get me wrong, gfx artists should get a decent pay too, but from a coder-perspective 50% of the total payment is quite low.

Specially when a customer wants to buy a website and you (as a coder) won't do the design yourself and you hire someone else to do it, then you wouldn't be paying him 50% of the total price, and when you count how many hours of work each part put into it, then I would dare say coding takes up more hours.

Not that hard when you can just copy codes you used for previous websites

[Vallih]

As a web designer and developer I can answer from both sides. Depending on the team they both do equally tasking work. The designer is the person who communicates with the client and interprets the design. Making sure the clients idea is represented favorably, the different design stages involved is all a long process.

Developer does all the coding. Depending how complex the design this could determine who worked harder in the project. But straight to the point coding is a long process and then there is the different testing, and compatibility that needs to be checked.

50:50 if you're great partners but for different projects you can discuss the ratio?

[Nafei]

As a web designer and developer I can answer from both sides. Depending on the team they both do equally tasking work. The designer is the person who communicates with the client and interprets the design. Making sure the clients idea is represented favorably, the different design stages involved is all a long process.

Developer does all the coding. Depending how complex the design this could determine who worked harder in the project. But straight to the point coding is a long process and then there is the different testing, and compatibility that needs to be checked.

50:50 if you're great partners but for different projects you can discuss the ratio?

+1 to you.

[Snopboy]

If it's just coding, I can do it.
If it involves programming, then no, I can't. (Not really good at back-end sorry.)

[SanGawku]

If it's just coding, I can do it.
If it involves programming, then no, I can't. (Not really good at back-end sorry.)

umm... Coding = Programming.

[Snopboy]

umm... Coding = Programming.

No quite.
By coding, people mean front-end development which doesn't involve programming but it does involve coding as Tags and Styling.
When someone says programming, means writing a program/application/back-end web development.
Different things, though I'm capable of doing some PHP and a bit of ASP.NET but advanced enough to take a project, still learning the basic-mid stuff.

[s-p-n]

No quite.
By coding, people mean front-end development which doesn't involve programming but it does involve coding as Tags and Styling.

By coding, people mean writing code. When I'm writing HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Python, or any other kind of code- I tell people I'm coding. A web-site is basically a program downloaded and executed inside of a web-browser. Therefore, writing HTML or CSS you are writing code, and you could say you're programming. The fact the code is laid out as any identifiable syntax (ie mark-up) is irrelevant.

Though HTML and CSS don't have that many conditions, don't have loops, don't really have variables, or many other features formal programming languages have, they are still code languages made for computers to understand, and translate into a program people can use- thus, HTML and CSS are, by definition, programming languages.

If it's just coding, I can do it.
If it involves programming, then no, I can't. (Not really good at back-end sorry.)

What you meant to say was:

If it's just front-end (HTML, CSS), I can do it.
If it involves back-end (such as PHP or ASP.net), I'm not really that good, sorry.

[Khanna]

In this discussion, I believe what's asked is for a front-end programmer with excellent knowledge of HTML and CSS. I would also say at the least PHP is a must for login and registration forms, as well as (if its game related) Server Up/Down, how many players on at that time, maybe a small content management system so the owner can edit his own words(or room for twitter etc. Maybe build it all as a wordpress/Joomla theme?), unless someone chooses a different language if choice to get that task done.

For clarity, I believe this task simply calls for good html/css skills, and moderate PHP skills. As a programmer and a graphics designer, I can say that if the designer is not only making the template but slicing and organizing it completely so all that's needed is code, then 50/50 is a good option since a web programmer can run into some interesting obstacles that would need to be remedied in order to overcome it. With that said, both partners should know a little about the others job to better understand fair pay ratios.

I also believe 50/50 should be a standard, and able to be flexed depending on the severity of each persons needs. Or, other side, 50/50 no matter what, so even if one website takes 30 hours to design and programming takes 3( not realistic) then the money is the same, even if the tables were turned and the programming takes weeks to work out all the kinks due to its complexity. I can see it either way, and I feel 50/50 no matter what is good for business relations, because if your workloads fluctuate you know you'll get the same amount, and can trust one another isn't slacking off somewhere and they are working just as hard for that paycheck on previous or future projects.

~Khanna