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    Apprentice xXryuShinXx is offline
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    Section is dead ?

    Is this section dead ? I dont see any tutorial up-to-date.
    All link are dead and dated 2010-2014.
    There is barely a fews threads made in 2015.

    But I see some new servers coming out like Clash-Rose.com
    Where did they get their server files ?
    Are they using Irose or osIrose or Arcturus ?

    I tried using google etc to find a forum that is currently active for the development of iRose but there is absolutly nothing !
    Last edited by Henmoro; 09-10-15 at 04:57 PM.


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    Re: Section is dead ?

    There's not many active people on here anymore.
    If you need a tutorial for arcturus, you can try arcturusdev.com.
    Although theres a lot of work to be done on it still.

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    OsiRose DEV XxXshidoXxX is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Pretty much because all the devs that were active on rose grew out of it.
    Speaking for myself back when we were on osirose it was very fun at start but after some time passed it kind of bored everyone and then people left the project one by one.

    I don't think anyone is left developing something ( maybe purple ? ).
    Also there's one thing you have to know about the rose world : everyone was a bitch, i've been trying to be a part of every open source project and aside from a very tiny handful of people the rest were just here to leak stuff and use it for their own purpose.
    With such a shitty dev community the development has been dead a long time ago, hence why you only get very old thread and server files that are meh.

    The only "hope" for anything original anymore is to use the Malaysia evo files, they work but there's quite some annoying bugs and even the compiling of it is horrendous.

    TLDR : There's no hope.

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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Most the legacy devs have pretty much uncovered as much knowledge as they wanted from ROSE and got bored.
    Almost all the information is out there if you want to develop your own tools.

    I think purple's just learning from the source code. Hijakob from RISE is doing a great job developing his server.
    Most people in the past just didn't want to share anything and keep it for their own servers and to grow their own ego like ICON.
    To this day ICON is still trying to sell his iROSE source for like $1000, actually hilarious to me.
    Obviously there were people who shared their knowledge like brett19, xadet and exjam etc. but iROSE was somewhat a taboo at
    the time, larger servers were ddosing smaller ones. I heard ICON was using vulnerabilities to blackmail small servers to paying him for his
    'fix' and files. Basically there were amazing people in the community but the bad eggs just actively tried to weave out servers for their
    own ambition/money which overshadowed the good some people were doing.

    The evo source takes some time and work but it all compiles but I don't think many people are interested in evo, everyone's
    too focused on iROSE.

    I think a lot of people have the same thought as you and that's exactly why the community's pretty much died.
    That's why I'm trying to make it easier for individuals new to this community to start their own server since interest drives development.

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    OsiRose DEV XxXshidoXxX is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JiEun View Post
    Most the legacy devs have pretty much uncovered as much knowledge as they wanted from ROSE and got bored.
    Almost all the information is out there if you want to develop your own tools.

    I think purple's just learning from the source code. Hijakob from RISE is doing a great job developing his server.
    Most people in the past just didn't want to share anything and keep it for their own servers and to grow their own ego like ICON.
    To this day ICON is still trying to sell his iROSE source for like $1000, actually hilarious to me.
    Obviously there were people who shared their knowledge like brett19, xadet and exjam etc. but iROSE was somewhat a taboo at
    the time, larger servers were ddosing smaller ones. I heard ICON was using vulnerabilities to blackmail small servers to paying him for his
    'fix' and files. Basically there were amazing people in the community but the bad eggs just actively tried to weave out servers for their
    own ambition/money which overshadowed the good some people were doing.

    The evo source takes some time and work but it all compiles but I don't think many people are interested in evo, everyone's
    too focused on iROSE.

    I think a lot of people have the same thought as you and that's exactly why the community's pretty much died.
    That's why I'm trying to make it easier for individuals new to this community to start their own server since interest drives development.

    I got the evo client and server sources with some fixes (from what i can remember a few gameplay fixes, the client sound fix and some name bugging fix )
    Perhaps i should release the source + compile ? That is if anyone has a tiny bit of interest for evo.
    i wish a japanese team would leak us jrose tho, played on it a bit its quite fun.

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    Valued Member harry12 is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    sad there rose is dying fast x.x

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    Proficient Member Kingdom Rose is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    No developers everyone keeping everything to them selves even if we make a public svn for files people will just add their own shit and keep it for them selves instead of everyone working on something together , its something called greed just find something and leech it and call it yours :). I my self am looking for a dev team to work on iRose with me but yeah heh no luck you can't trust any one any more..

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    Apprentice xXryuShinXx is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Well my plan is to start a new iROSE server, I'm learning c++ but I know other language like JAVA, php (pdo poo etc), css
    I actually own a dedicated server of 32gb ram with 1Gbs connection per port.
    Hosted in offshore :)

    I'll try to make new thing for the community, I got around 100 complete C.M.S I can convert for Rose Online.

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    Re: Section is dead ?

    I'm pretty sure that's what people did in the past. I remember people saying they or their dev made them a launcher or website and it was so obviously just ripped and reskinned but since ROSE has died, luckily a lot of them have been weeded out aswell.

    I don't get the mentality of people saying there are no contributors and yet they themselves won't publicly release anything because other people will just leech it. There has always been more leechers than contributors since that's just the nature of people, if that bothers you then just never make anything public.

    With noone willing to contribute or share knowledge, development just ceases and dies like what's happening currently.
    People have different values, e.g. I'm only doing what I am doing because I want to learn and improve, some do it for the community, some for monetary gain, and that's fine too, just don't make lame excuses. If you only release something so other people can help you develop it then you only really wanted to help yourself. I don't recall exjam, brett, xadet complaining about people leeching their git repositories and developing them.

    I think only Hij is developing iRose files and rest are using arcturus since the leaked source is somewhat broken.

    Edit:
    I would be interested if you did something in java since it's the language i'm most fluent in :)

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    Apprentice xXryuShinXx is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Well, I will be using arcturus files, since I can't find iROSE one beside a chinese website that need "gold" to buy it.
    Doing a new emulator in java will take too much time and i'm learning c++ which is the language of the current source.


    about them I know how it work aha.. I've been a admin for a programmer community, there'll always be leecher but hey, we have to share tough.
    All design and css code are under copyrighted license and won't be afraid to take action if there anything not respected.

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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Learning C++ and C# is on my list but probably won't get around to it until I graduate university this year.
    I think I already have too much going on tbh. Making arcturusCMS as a pass time to do more with PHP, arcturusDev.com as a knowledge database and probably some free tools in java if I have time while doing content dev and other nonROSE Projects + uni.

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    Apprentice xXryuShinXx is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JiEun View Post
    Learning C++ and C# is on my list but probably won't get around to it until I graduate university this year.
    I think I already have too much going on tbh. Making arcturusCMS as a pass time to do more with PHP, arcturusDev.com as a knowledge database and probably some free tools in java if I have time while doing content dev and other nonROSE Projects + uni.
    Okay, yeah I do it on pass time too.
    I actually use your website to setup my arcturus server but I actually got a problem that i state on another thread.

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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Answered on your thread :)

    Also @Purpleyouko, I'm wondering how you read all the information on your kuro-tejina website or calders version of it.
    If you don't mind me asking, do you read the client files directly or did you extract all the client data into i.e. json and then read it?

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    Apprentice xXryuShinXx is offline
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    Re: Section is dead ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JiEun View Post
    Answered on your thread :)

    Also @Purpleyouko, I'm wondering how you read all the information on your kuro-tejina website or calders version of it.
    If you don't mind me asking, do you read the client files directly or did you extract all the client data into i.e. json and then read it?
    He is actually using javascript to load the image using jscon.

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    Re: Section is dead ?

    I meant the STB/STL/QSD data and Calder's remake of kuro-tejina's IFO/LTB? data specifically :P



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