Conquer-Europe stops!

[hugo_zonderland]

Conquer-Europe stops.

Conquer-Europe perhaps the best private server after QO, has stopped.
Conquer-Europe called CoEU from this moment on.
We as a team had a lot of fun with entertaining all of our players for one year.

CONV, one of the parts of CoEU, was one of the first CoEMU based private servers which came online. The server counted out 5-6 active programmers, some of them are mentioned in the special thanks list under this story. And was one of the CoEMU based server with an actual playeble server. At one moment the server counted 70 players a day and the server was being called a success.

Then one of the programmers changed the server password trough remote desktop and the server owners, Belgarion and Forced where forced to push the big red stop button. Which triggered an ESD (electrostatic discharge) and the 2 of the hard disks got heavily damaged. Lucky we where able to restore the data because of the raid setups on the server. Although Windows wasn't
able to be repaired. One of the cables which connected the CD-Drive to the motherboard got damaged to. These cables are being produced anymore and hard to come by. There for the server wasn't able to be reinstalled.
CONV forum was being attacked by spam bots, people left. CONV stopped.

Then Co-Germany come up with an idea. This Idea was being called Conquer-Europe. CoEU started out as a merge between CONV an CoGermany. Our goal was to finish the COEMu sources. We already had a far more advanced source brought from CONV then anny other COEMU based project, by the time we started CoEU. CoEU had to be the server with the most players, excellent player service and a lot of new things within Conquer Online. CoEU had to had more players online then Qonquer-Online.
CoEU had a lot of player entertainment, custom NPC's for nice quest and alot of funny events where good prices could be obtained. CoEU also was a server with alot of idea's and insane goals. A couple of goals:

-Custom client!: which was done like 2-3%. We where able to make a connection to our server and send some player information.
-Custom server: This server had to had custom graphics, custom maps, custom wapeons and custom monsters. 20% done.

The plans of CoEU was to run 2 servers. A CO-replica and a custom server. The server we where running in the beginning was a mix of custom and replica.

Due the fact that me, Titanium, and StarCelli don't got anytime left to run the project we decided to stops with it, FOR NOW! Perhaps we will be back later on.
I cannot run CoEU by my self at this point. My private life is getting to take more and more of myself, i barely got time left to sleep.
From this moment on CoEU no longer exist. Perhaps we restart it later on.
The rights for CoEU remain with me, StarCelli and Raven.

The source we had on CoEU isn't being shared with public resources.
There are some people who do have our source codings. I would like to request you not the share these source codes with the open public. These sources aren't so stable and sharing then with other public resources would give your self 2000 hours explaining and answering questions.

Don't belefe anyone claiming to be Conquer-Europe when the project leaders aren't:
Titanium - Hugo zonderland
StarCelli - Marcel BernStein
Raven - Cassandra Nayame
You might bring yourself in danger, when playing and registering that server.

If you want to enjoy alot of CoEU's work. Play at Conquer2.1. They have our source codings at the moment.

For the rest i got a long Special Thanks list out of CoEU point of view:
-Mike
-Brandon
-Ranny
-Andy
-Korvacs
-Ideo
-Hybris
-Kixin
-Forced
-Belgarion
-TheSanderZone
-GameSix.nl - game servers

-infamousnoone
-Virtual
-James_1992
-Baby

It can be i forgot your name, pm me please, i wasn't able to think of more names at this moment.

Signed by,
Titanium
StarCelli
Raven

[MentaL]

[bone-you]

Thanks, no one cares though.. I was going to reply on epvp but I thought it'd be mean.. but then I refreshed the topic view here and saw you posted it here too. Post on your own forum. Over 6 months your "custom client" can only connect? I take it you were the main "developer" on that client xD

[hugo_zonderland]

Thanks, no one cares though.. I was going to reply on epvp but I thought it'd be mean.. but then I refreshed the topic view here and saw you posted it here too. Post on your own forum. Over 6 months your "custom client" can only connect? I take it you were the main "developer" on that client xD

Ahh its Zero. Well thanks!
It seems you have followed the project quite good i geuss? 6 months funny ass. 5 weeks on the custom client ;-)
And it seems again, you don't know me.

I find it quite funny that you think you represent uhm everyone?

Thanks, no one cares though..

And how is your "server" comming?
You have been working for a year now or so?
And the picture in your signature still says:
Server Offline
0 players
Online server time: nothing?
#Titanium

[Infamous]

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[Imitation]

Isn't CO2.1 joining with XSCO again? LOL

[hugo_zonderland]

Aah if thats true, then it seems Zero is getting my source :D So he can try and translate the whole C# code to C++ and finally have a decent server :D

Infamous, i never started a fight, i simply reacted to him, while he tried to flame me..

#Titanium

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[hugo_zonderland]

5 weeks and it can only connect and send a few packets? Even that is pretty bad. It only takes a few days at most to come up with a basic system for rendering something simple and another day to come up with some sockets.

Ohh iam really going to love this discussion :D
One year of rewriting and you still have 0 players a day WOW Zero don't even try making me look like a fool.
As you might not know is that iam not a programmer, i simply orginize Conquer-Europe. Thats all i do. I can do simple scripting thats all. So eventually StarCelli wrote this client in wich i mistaken myself with in 2 days.

So if you even want to try making me or my programmers look like a fool, look at your self first please.

Sorry to break it to you though, no one really would care. No point making posts everywhere saying you're leaving as if you're some god in the community and you deserve a special post EVERYWHERE saying you're leaving.

Again, you compere yourself with everyone. I got alot of people saying to me over MSN that they wanted CoEU back. So people actually care.
Then, there are like 100 visitors of the Conquer private server section on Ragezone a day, like 10-40 know about Conquer-Europe. And well and this topic was more like an annoucement.
Oke well lets bring this one up. It seems you actually care. Your are besides me one of the most active posters on this topic. So it seems you care.
Then not all the members of RageZone are also at ***********. So yeah i put up two topics.
And i did not post it everywhere. Two sites wich contains Conquer private server development, are seen as everywhere by you. Well CoFusion don't got a topic, CoEMU it self doesn't have a topic and i make a long list of all the other places i could have posted this.

And now you say i act like a god. What have you been doing with wining and bitching towards me since the first you ever posted on CONV forums? My good wannebee God Zero. So with this one you made me king or what?

And my server has been slow because of what I'm trying to do + the fact I have school getting my degree in programming and I have work. By the way, my server isn't live so how could it have any online time anyway? Trying to pick out everything and anything to insult me huh. And duh it's offline. I just came home from work.

Well it seems you are trying to insult me constanly to, so why should i stop with it? And so what, you can easly run your server 24/7. We did the same thing. Assuming you got a good internet connection and a good server.

No, but you're a queer bag sitting across the room from me. Keep out of things that don't concern you Tyler.

Why would I want your horrible source. It's obvious it was a failure if you're leaving the community :P If it was so successful it'd manage itself for the most part aside from basic GM duties which you could have others do.

Well horrible source. I partly agree. But its most wanted for the idea's within the source that people makes to want CoEU source.
And again it seems you did not read my post. I dont got the time. If i get like 25 hours of sleep a week, i might be lucky! So read more carefully.
And what is wrong with orginizing. If the president of the USA is so good, why does he need a full ministry behind himself? Well someone should have a greater overvieuw. And it doesn't take programming skills to run a project. It might be handy.

Obviously your server runs just as well as mine does and I just rewrote mine from scratch a few weeks ago and you've been working on that for what, 2 years now?

*Sigh*
You started out arround the ending of CONV! That is like one year ago. And with you saying you are started rewriting it again from scratch some weeks ago proves your previous server wasn't that good either.

:D I no longer need to translate the C# source anyway. It was mostly wasting time when I could be doing it myself at a faster pace. No point trying to translate that horrid code anyway.. it was deemed bad code by the makers themselves so no point in using it right? Oh wait.. you guys still use it. What was the last code you wrote anyway? A hello world program? ;/

Well how sad attacking me on my programming skills. Its like everyone knows that iam not a programmer, as i've said that 100 times.

Then this. You just try and get a server up and runnig for the public. Testing with one player in it isnt really a good point of vieuw is it?

\/ you were saying?

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Wow how good of you! You actually learned how to make NPC dialogs and you know how to place some NPC's on a map!! Whoomph iam impressed.

A picture doenst prove annything Zero.


Well, ill wait for your next reply, if its worthy to reply to again, ill do it. And that will be the last reply ill make to you for ever or something. Since this childish bragging of you, mixed with your careness for my server really start to irritate me at certain moments ;)

So love ya! :D

#Titanium

[james1992_2006]

lolz i rlly dont think any1 cares anyway titanium honestly i thought coeurope was shit it was fcking full of bugs even after months of work... which eh is kinda sad... and ure a complete asshole so yea thats the main reason i dont like u ^^ but eh i dont wanna be a ass myself so i wish u gl... and srry 2 see coeurope go ><

[pjkasper43]

lolz i rlly dont think any1 cares anyway titanium honestly i thought coeurope was shit it was fcking full of bugs even after months of work... which eh is kinda sad... and ure a complete asshole so yea thats the main reason i dont like u ^^ but eh i dont wanna be a ass myself so i wish u gl... and srry 2 see coeurope go ><

your no better u peice of S***

[Infamous]

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[metalicgecko]

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[james1992_2006]

your no better u peice of S***

hmm doesnt seem like it... seems like every1 agrees with me that titaniums a asshole and that's my prob how? he made his own rep by being a dick to every1 not my prob ;)

[hugo_zonderland]

lolz i rlly dont think any1 cares anyway titanium honestly i thought coeurope was shit it was fcking full of bugs even after months of work... which eh is kinda sad... and ure a complete asshole so yea thats the main reason i dont like u ^^ but eh i dont wanna be a ass myself so i wish u gl... and srry 2 see coeurope go ><

Well i thought it was you i had to explain how to setup a CoEMU based source so for that thanks ;) And how far did you come with that server. Wich was like a almost complete copy of CoEU?

One year of rewrites? This is my first rewrite and I was rather far on my last try. You have no idea what I had going so shh.

As for 0 players, I have YET to launch the server. How do I get players without a server up? I don't put half-assed servers up like most do. I make sure it WORKS before I put it up.

Well then i hope your server is stable ;)

You're an organizer.. lol.. sorry, that just sounds funny. Way back I remember you taking credit for a lot of things you had no part in on top of saying you owned many things you didn't help do... And there's more proof you're no programmer. No respectable programmer makes a mistake between PROGRAMMING and SCRIPTING. Here's a little lesson.

Scripting is processed by an -interpreter-.
Programming is -compiled- into bytecode and for the most part, stands alone.

I never took credit for annything, so i would like you to prove that one. I was project leader at CONV, so i owned CONV.
And well then you finally thought me something thanks. Since iam not a programmer. So don't try to attack me on that front. Since its true.

How do I compare myself to everyone? Dude.. I'm being completely serious here.. where did you learn English? Do you even understand half of what I say.. or know what half of what you type means?
Duly noted. Your ... "absence" will be felt around the world as we all sit down and cry.

Wow how funny iam not even english. Still this is not a front you can attack me on. I can also start typing dutch here, so if you like that ill do that

Well now you are not the only one that doesn't care, james also doesn't and Well Josh.. Erhm go back to your cave.
It seems you 3 are the only once that don't care, since you said you din't. So again you compare yourself with the rest. Take a look at the views of the topic. Like 100 or so. Means some people care, since they read.

And if you want to cry for CoEU, ill hand you a tissue.

Let's resort to kindergarten insults. "You post so you care" "No you care" "NUH UH YOU CARE"

Erhm.. Right? Still you care.. I never saw someone typing this story's and huge post on something, he doesn't care about.

Those places all closed pretty much. Why would you post somewhere that no one visits? You posted -everywhere- that is populated which was my point. I can sit by and see one of your topics go.. but not two. Oh, and in case you haven't noticed, your epvp topic got a whopping 2 replies to it. xD

I posted on EPVP and RageZone because the devollopment of CoEMU/UCCO source, after its release began here?

How do I whine and bitch towards you? Seriously now. This is the first time I've talked to you or even seen you post anywhere in half a year... the only issue I had with you way back is that you guys ignored me 24/7 as I was offering to help.

Well if i simply look at this topic, those reactions.
And perhaps you don't remember, i offered my apologies, forgotten about that?

My server isn't playable (playable to me means most features work) so I don't put it up. Unlike you I strive for quality, not how fast I can put it up with as many bugs as I possibly can.

Well perhaps time for you to test the great Zero server? Since now you have only been testing with 1 player ingame. What if you bring your server online, 10 players connect, and BOOM server freese, error. You can start rewriting again.

What ideas? Do you have a command that makes a nearby npc say "you suck" or something so totally awesome like that?

How funny, you don't even know what CoEU had ingame. So you cannot even think about that or image that there is a NPC saying "Zero sucks"

And I get on average 3-4 hours of sleep a night if even yet you don't see me telling everyone "I quit!" "blah blah". Your personal life is your personal life. If you can't handle doing this then leave. Oh, you are. You don't have to make a big deal out of leaving though :P

Well i never made it a big deal. I made a sort of announcement, and you are the one making a big deal out of it. Just look at your post.

Someone such as yourself is the reason CONV failed and your "new" "team" is now "going away". No self respecting programmer would have you lead them. Sorry.

So that means you are calling a lot of people "No self respecting programmers?"
-Ranny
-Andy
-Hyrbis
-Ideo
-Korvacs

Good to know, ill pass them the link ;)

I'm rewriting it because I strive for quality. If something is off even just a little bit, I have to fix it. I don't just leave it like the pile of shit most servers are. Most servers don't care about the quality. They just want as many players as they can get and that be that. I on the other hand want to make an emulator powerful enough to rival and beat TQ's own. I don't know if you've seen the EO source, but there's no way piddly ol' C# (and your server especially) is going to match the level of coding done on it. I opted for a rewrite for many reasons. Of which are, an entire socket rewrite and moving towards linux compatibility for ultimate speed and power, integration of the official CO database, and to see what I could emulate better from the official source.

Brag, Brag and Brag. Still one year later.

I don't know what "vieuw" is but you've said it a lot. As for points of view, I have multiple perspectives and I make it a point to have such.

How sad that is again attacking me on my English, with me as a Dutch person. How funny. You understand what i mean don't you? So please if you can't find an other thing to try and make me like a fool, don't take my English as an example, since that is the lowest of lowest thing to come up with.

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I was also the finder of a super secret special GM area full of the dynamic npcs including one that enabled GMs to change into that retarded blue elephant thing.

What now? Cheer?

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Well nice. Cheer?

I could keep posting.. but meh. I'll leave you be :P I seem to also see others who share similar beliefs on not many caring.. more than say they do care.

Wow so now you think that you and James represent a lot of people with saying NO ONE

Please stfu lol stealing your source? Why so we can have five people login to a server and see it crash? lol Dude you think you guys created the best and the biggest I love your comment in your first post ("We had more players on than Qonquer has ever had on") Fucking insane qonquer had a record breaking 526 at one time lol Ur hilarious man shove somethin up ur ass.

Titanium you cant code get over it cry us a river and gtfo lol I dont even post in forums because you like to try and contradict me and be a douche no one really likes ya

Then quote me where i sad bigger then QO? In the meaning of actually saying Beeing bigger then QO, or wanting to be bigger then QO?

I don't know you, you don't know me so.. iam not relying to the rest of your post.
And ive called you Josh, since you react and act the same as that Josh did.

Ill await your next post guys, those will be the last one, if there worthy to reply on.

[metalicgecko]

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[hugo_zonderland]

It is =D

No, but you took credit for coding things you didn't even touch.

Wich codings? Ahh you mean the credit file that was within the CoEMU open source project. Well dude, i never wrote that file

I thought you something? ?.?

As in teaching, but hey, you are really that low as i thought you would be.

True, English isn't your first language, but damn, it's not that hard to proof read. Many of your mistakes are spelling mistakes that firefox would even catch as you type. It's not that English isn't your first language, it's that you don't care about appearing to be a total dumbass. I'll B+U every spelling mistake here to show how many you do miss when there's a spell check right in front of you x.x

Jeez, to bad iam not using FireFox :O
And i can also use Egyptian ways of typing english
Ya man, yu dompazz

Reading a post doesn't mean they care. It means they are simply interested in what it says. It's called not being ignorant. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you shouldn't know about it.

Still being intressted means feeling something for the subject.

No one will be crying. Sorry.

Again with the childish insults. "NO YOU CARE"
Just because I type a reply doesn't mean I care about you leaving or your server going down.

If iam not intressted/caring for a subject, i won't even open it. Its like getting a charity at your door asking for donation which you don't want to donate to, but you still do.

no wait. I take that back. I do care about your shit server going down because that means there will be more players in the pool of people that will play mine when it goes up =D

Erhmm right.. Well goodluck..

Use your own forum was my point I was making. You don't have to post it everywhere if you have a forum as the people that DO care and DO play will be there to see it. Posting elsewhere gets in the way of those that don't care.

My forums gotten offline, since i told my sponsor, yes a sponsor! We are stopping CoEU.

You didn't apologize for shit. None of you did.

Well to bad CONV forums are offline, because i did apologize.

Nope. Even my last didn't freeze or lockup with 10 people online. Don't worry about my testing ;) It will get done and the server will go up and it will be stable.

Lets hope so.

And you added one just for me? You cared enough about me after 6+ months of never speaking to me to put an NPC all about me in your server? I'm touched :)

Erhm. I wouldn't even go take a shit and call it Zero.

Announcements = big deal. Big enough deal to make an announcement of it :P Post it on your own forum.

As said above..

Korvacs doesn't code for you last I checked. Back with COFusion.
Ranny.. I don't know him aside from seeing him post a few times on epvp and coemu.
The rest I have never seen or heard of.

Well Korvacs dis some coding for CoEU. Ranny and Andy are CoEMU leaders, Ideo and Hybris are from the UCCO devlab/Ideo Lab wich continued to progress the UCCO on epvp/ragezone.

Pass them what? Me saying you're an incompetent leader? Please do so. Spread the word.

Ill hand them the link where you are saying that all programmers for CoEU are
"No self respecting programmers?"

You're insulting the time it takes ONE programmer to build a server so complex and stable that it throws yours into the shadow. Sorry, won't work.

Erhmm well get it online first, i hope for you it works.
Since bragging doesn't prove much.

I've given some examples of what I've done and can do, yet all you've done is pass them off as nothing significant. Do tell of something greater you have done.

Well oke congratulation's? What now?

Don't forget everyone else in this topic.. and everyone else at epvp that doesn't care enough to post in yours.

Everyone else whoomph 3 people.

Because you're such a "God" that you portray yourself as that posts have to be worthy of your replies.

Well thanks again for seeing me as a god.

Well as i've promised, this is my last reply towards you Zero. This discussion is about in my topic is heading to nothing so.. This was my last reply, for you.

And considering metalicgecko, iam not reacting to you since all you TRY is to make me look like a fool, and source/credit stealer for a credit file I NEVER wrote.
So if you can come up with some good points. For the first time ive ever seen you, then we might get a good discussion. So for you the same thing as for Zero. This was my last reply towards you.

[Korvacs]

dear dear dear....lol

metalicgecko: Thanks :P and yeah i do

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Eh, Titanium has a few good points. Such as the fact that you really should test in an open-user enviornment. Sometimes when I test with only 2-10 people on, I miss things, or minor bugs popup and stuff, with serveral on, It's been much easier to have them trigger an error and then find it.

Nowww I wouldn't go bashing C#, Mabye just the CoEMU code. C#'s not honestly the worst you can use, but I'd definitly say the C++ is the best to use. Eitherways I've learned enough raw-socket programming using the WINSOCK.dll's to figure out how to make my own socket system in C# (async).

Other than that all of Zero's points stand strong...

I know very well that testing yourself can only do so much. I do a lot more than just code all day long. I have a life, a job, school, and a second job at that. I wish I could code all day long again. One thing also wrong with me is I always strive for the best so if I see a flaw in my design, I have to redo it. I end up doing that again and again. I'm considering doing it again now because Korvacs and I had a little chat on things concerning scalable servers and I'm thinking about doing it. The good thing is that once my server does go online, it definitely won't be a 2nd rate half assed server.

[james1992_2006]

all i can is bull fcking shit titanium ure lying right through ure fcking teeth

Originally Posted by james1992_2006
lolz i rlly dont think any1 cares anyway titanium honestly i thought coeurope was shit it was fcking full of bugs even after months of work... which eh is kinda sad... and ure a complete asshole so yea thats the main reason i dont like u ^^ but eh i dont wanna be a ass myself so i wish u gl... and srry 2 see coeurope go ><

Originally posted by Titanium
Well i thought it was you i had to explain how to setup a CoEMU based source so for that thanks ;) And how far did you come with that server. Wich was like a almost complete copy of CoEU?

for 1. u never helped me with shit bud k? my friend danny aka vivi,josh who use 2 be a gm for cows for about a week untill v.3 closed down... helped my setup my 1st fcking co p server like over almost a yr ago? lol and for #2 i never once claimed i had a almost full coemu server when i tried 2 be a gm/coder on coeurope that was over... damn that had 2 be atleast 5 months ago for sure? and all i knew how 2 do then was fcking npc dialogs and i even told u that allthough i claimed i could do a few other newbie things no1 cared about but i really couldnt and basically every1 knew that but anyway i didnt claim i had a full coemu source almost complete tho... but i had a few things done but nothing worth a fck tho ;)

so ure lies r pointless becuz i swear on my fcking life u didnt help me setup my 1st co p server just like ure editted convo awhile bck u left out parts of u being a dick and only posted the parts of me being 1 made me look like a complete ass so yea... of coarse i'm gonna be a ass bck idc how long ago that was i hold a grude but u can stop lying atleast k? ^^

ahh and also... seeing as how many times ure server got hacked and ure db got deleted i dont think 2 many peepz like u?

but anyway i guess i was kinda a ass over that ordeal then... and i still kinda am being now... but u where 2... so u cant deny that, but anyway i guess i'm srry dont wanna start up another argument... >< anyways just wanted 2 wish u gl i guess and i guess i hope coeurope come's bck even tho i never played it lol becuz u banned me and solder05 both... for him giving me full +4 eqps XD, but he didnt try 2 steal vip codes like u said he did either lol ;)

well doubt i reply bck anytime soon if u reply bck with a rude comment becuz frankly idc just the int but i guess ill look around rz every so often and besides i'm mainly fcking with eo p servers atm :P

but i still dont like how ure claiming 2 help me setup my 1st server... i didnt even have ure msn or anything wayy bck then when i setup my 1st server... with the coemu source of coarse... but yea still and the main people that helped me get started was Toshi and Josh prolly not a josh u know idk *shrugs* but not that newbie josh claiming 2 have helped with ucco another 1 :P