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    kso,

    I'm looking into buying a new VPS for my server.
    Thing is, I've heard that by having the website run off a web host, and the server (BcStorm) on the VPS is much faster - the Website has faster load times etc.
    My main question is, if I were to do this, would I need a powerful VPS, ie:4GB Ram? Or would I need something less as the website is not running off it?

    Also, when using a web host, would it be possible to use web.config files (IIS)?

    Thanks in advance :)

    While I am here, would anyone recommend any good VPS services?


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    You can run a small hotel easily off a 1 GB RAM VPS. If you have a higher budget 2 GB RAM would be perfect. And what you heard is wrong, it's probably faster to run everything off one box. You have full access and can configure everything to your liking. Personally, I'm running a vm my self off my dedicated server. It's been assigned 2 GB RAM and only uses 1 GB RAM with 250 online. On this I run Apache, MySQL and the emulator.

    When you use a webhost you'll need to use .htaccess files as most hosts use the Apache web server.

    There's many VPS companies out there. The trick is, is to never go with the cheap ones (as with anything really). I've had good experiences with:

    http://vps.net
    BuyVM - Affordable VPS hosting with a touch of insanity
    https://www.xznetworks.com/

    Never buy a VPS from these Habbo kids who think they can set up a VPS host. #1 tip.

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    If I was you I'd just buy 2 cheap vps's one for cms, swfs & another for the emulator.

    offtopic:
    could I have your groups <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    You can run a small hotel easily off a 1 GB RAM VPS. If you have a higher budget 2 GB RAM would be perfect. And what you heard is wrong, it's probably faster to run everything off one box. You have full access and can configure everything to your liking. Personally, I'm running a vm my self off my dedicated server. It's been assigned 2 GB RAM and only uses 1 GB RAM with 250 online. On this I run Apache, MySQL and the emulator.

    When you use a webhost you'll need to use .htaccess files as most hosts use the Apache web server.

    There's many VPS companies out there. The trick is, is to never go with the cheap ones (as with anything really). I've had good experiences with:

    http://vps.net
    BuyVM - Affordable VPS hosting with a touch of insanity
    https://www.xznetworks.com/

    Never buy a VPS from these Habbo kids who think they can set up a VPS host. #1 tip.
    Just the answer I needed. Thank you so much :)

    By the way, if anyone else has a host that they would recommend, please let me know :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Never buy a VPS from these Habbo kids who think they can set up a VPS host. #1 tip.
    Correct me if i'm wrong but XZNetworks is run by a "Habbo kid"

    The main advantage of running a VPS and webhost is if you are attacked the website will stay up (Assuming you have MySQL with webhost) which means you can communicate with users when the emulator is being attacked/down keeping them

    Downside is latency issues connecting to MySQL. It all depends on how you set it up.

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    I am really happy with Contabo, a german company(also known as Giga-International).
    I have their biggest Dedicated Server and 2 VPS.

    Cheap Windows & Linux VPS Hosting at an affordable price - Contabo.com

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    I would buy 2 VPS's from the same provider and ask for internal IP assignment that would be able to communicate the two servers together similar to your home network ideally (some providers offer this). Otherwise get two different providers with two servers very close together geographically.

    Then put your CMS on one and your Emulator on another. If you are really going pro id move the SWF's to a third system - be it another VPS or a webhosting account.

    This gives your multiple points of redundancy and also if one host gets suspended you could simply move on to another and only loose your cms or emulator or SWFs and not all three at once.

    Or I'm not sure how this would work but you could have a few VPS's with your CMS on and rsync the data to each box. Then set up a roundrobin to move your DNS records if one went down = decent redundancy. Also would be useful to look at your SQL database with a similar system as if you had some sort of error you would have a backup on another server ready to be switched over :)

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    Well, I have always used HostKey (go down at the page and there is an ad with HostKey) , and my first hotel with 1GB RAM could get 60-70 users online.

    Good luck

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    Thanks guys :)
    Keep the suggestions coming in. I was looking at hostkey and noticed that their VPS was in Russia. Would this really matter? (Location, speed wise?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddos Attack View Post
    Thanks guys :)
    Keep the suggestions coming in. I was looking at hostkey and noticed that their VPS was in Russia. Would this really matter? (Location, speed wise?)
    Russia = No DMCA thing exist there (:

    The speed is brilliant, and I live long away from Russia. ;)

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    Thanks!
    Think I might go with hostkey, the prices look great. Just googling for some reviews atm, what would be ur overall opinion on hostkey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddos Attack View Post
    Thanks!
    Think I might go with hostkey, the prices look great. Just googling for some reviews atm, what would be ur overall opinion on hostkey?
    HostKey is just wonderful, only one or two restarts in one month.
    The service is great, it's via Skype.
    Also it's a big company (For VPS/Dedi sellers)

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    You've sold me ;)
    I'm going to be going with them. I was looking up some other reviews on them, and they were all solid 10/10.
    Gonna grab myself a 4GB VPS for $40 soon from them ;)

    Got one more quick question;
    I am thinking of buying 2 IP's with the VPS. The question is, if someone were to Ddos one of the IP's, would the site still stay online if it were running off the OTHER IP address? ie: one IP runs through Cloudflare, and the other doesn't?

    Or, if one of the IP's was being Ddossed, would the whole site go down? (even if the other IP was used as a backup)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prizm View Post
    HostKey is just wonderful, only one or two restarts in one month.
    The service is great, it's via Skype.
    Also it's a big company (For VPS/Dedi sellers)
    You act like restarts are a common thing. If a VPS host restarted my server more than once I would instantly move and ask for a refund. You're paying for a service, not a downtime or a restart.

    Also, why are you spending more money than you actually need to spend? As I said. 1 GB RAM is MORE than enough. Unless you've got some huge community and get over 100 online there is no point.

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    I used HostKey to host PlusRP the downtime was terrible. Random server restarts or no connection. Lots of lag etc. I had to move.

    I say stay away from them unless you are buying a Dedi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    You act like restarts are a common thing. If a VPS host restarted my server more than once I would instantly move and ask for a refund. You're paying for a service, not a downtime or a restart.

    Also, why are you spending more money than you actually need to spend? As I said. 1 GB RAM is MORE than enough. Unless you've got some huge community and get over 100 online there is no point.
    I'm willing to downsize :P
    Wouldn't it depend on the "type" of VPS? ie: Like a Business-type VPS or a Budget VPS?
    Would you expect a business type VPS to work more flawlessly than a budget one?
    Also about what Prizm's said, when the VPS did restart, it could have been maintenance on that node?

    With the company I was recently with (habbo-owned), they always sent me an email when there would be VPS downtime / restarts if they were configuring something.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkeetEmUp View Post
    I used HostKey to host PlusRP the downtime was terrible. Random server restarts or no connection. Lots of lag etc. I had to move.

    I say stay away from them unless you are buying a Dedi.
    Sorry to here about that :(

    From the reviews I've read, the company is pretty good. I'll have another check to see if that was for dedi's tho, and see if I can get some VPS reviews about Hostkey.





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    It's Russia. The routing is terrible, the electricity isn't exactly reliable. By all means if you want to gamble your money, try them. But I would go with a known professional host (that's why I recommended VPS.NET).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    It's Russia. The routing is terrible, the electricity isn't exactly reliable. By all means if you want to gamble your money, try them. But I would go with a known professional host (that's why I recommended VPS.NET).
    I understand. To be honest, I've heard about VPS.net before, and even looked at some of their reviews. I found some bad ones. Personally, VPS.net looks a bit expensive for my liking.

    I know you've mentioned some before, but do you happen to know any other VPS companies that you would recommend? You seem to know your stuff ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddos Attack View Post
    You've sold me ;)
    I'm going to be going with them. I was looking up some other reviews on them, and they were all solid 10/10.
    Gonna grab myself a 4GB VPS for $40 soon from them ;)

    Got one more quick question;
    I am thinking of buying 2 IP's with the VPS. The question is, if someone were to Ddos one of the IP's, would the site still stay online if it were running off the OTHER IP address? ie: one IP runs through Cloudflare, and the other doesn't?

    Or, if one of the IP's was being Ddossed, would the whole site go down? (even if the other IP was used as a backup)?
    You can be assigned a million IP addresses for all it matters, if the attack is greater then your 100mbps Nic then you're going to go down along with every single IP on that adapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscab View Post
    You can be assigned a million IP addresses for all it matters, if the attack is greater then your 100mbps Nic then you're going to go down along with every single IP on that adapter.
    Thanks for clarifying that Muscab :)

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    Found a company that looks great.
    Reseller Hosting, Web Hosting, VPS & Dedicated Servers | Heart Internet

    Lots of the reviews I've been finding for them are excellent. They are professional and their prices are great.

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    I heavily dislike HostKey, the downtime wasn't what I expected or what I was lead on to believe. I was made to believe that there was hardly ever downtime.. I was wrong.

    Try checking out; Static Servers: You know you want us, their decent.

    But in regards to your question, 1-2GB RAM would be fine to run a hotel with under 100.

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    Try checking out; Static Servers: You know you want us, their decent.
    Maybe because it's your hosting site :P But yeah Static Hosting look's very decent. ;3

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkeetEmUp View Post
    I used HostKey to host PlusRP the downtime was terrible. Random server restarts or no connection. Lots of lag etc. I had to move.

    I say stay away from them unless you are buying a Dedi.
    Also, stay away from their NL dedicated servers, i had this for a month and everytime a ddos attack was hitting one server all went down.

    Their support was also really bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by zMagenta View Post
    I heavily dislike HostKey, the downtime wasn't what I expected or what I was lead on to believe. I was made to believe that there was hardly ever downtime.. I was wrong.

    Try checking out; Static Servers: You know you want us, their decent.

    But in regards to your question, 1-2GB RAM would be fine to run a hotel with under 100.
    I would never use a company like this.
    Reason: Static Servers: You know you want us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exonize View Post
    Also, stay away from their NL dedicated servers, i had this for a month and everytime a ddos attack was hitting one server all went down.

    Their support was also really bad.



    I would never use a company like this.
    Reason: Static Servers: You know you want us
    The reason is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zMagenta View Post
    The reason is..
    It's really unprofessional how you promote your company and you are probably 12 or 13.

    Another good company is these: https://www.transip.eu/vps/pricing-and-purchase/



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