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    C4 information

    I found this over at PP and thought I'd pass it over here.
    http://www.l2center.com/news/c4gathering.aspx


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    Quote Originally Posted by localhost
    I found this over at PP and thought I'd pass it over here.
    http://www.l2center.com/news/c4gathering.aspx

    As you basically said , it will be good if we get 5-10% of this to work hehe

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    Yea, for a while I heard all those people saying that pretty soon we will be over our heads with all of this, I thought they were just being paranoid, but now I see they were all right. C3 has gotten much better but nonetheless it's still missing crap loads of stuff.

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    True ,
    besides this is c4 , it will go up all the way to c9 , imagine c9 .. the content will be incredible !
    l2j will fall apart soon enough when NCsoft desides to
    upgrade there engine to the newest Unreal shit (this will happen in c5-6), l2j will have be totally rewriten which most likely will set them back even more to a state
    where it might be impossible for them to catch up (project will fall apart?)

    And the official software can never be hexed good enough for a another version
    of the Unreal engine to connect to.

    Maybe we just should perfect c1-3 (maybe 4) and from that point
    just start making custom stuff for the l2 private servers.
    (I hope I'm totally wrong tho, I love the l2 private servers
    and hope they will stay around for years 2 come. I just doubt it..)

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    At least in l2j we can start over and still use some of the old stuff.
    Last edited by Hitomi; 01-08-05 at 03:14 AM.

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    Aseren I'd have to say some of your assumptions are incorrect about L2J being able to cope with upgrades...

    C1OFF is what will die, and fast. It already is....

    L2J was on top of c3 way before the chinese released hexed exes, which are still horrid. Not to mention the geodata issue that will always plague us..

    If L2 moves its client to the new platform, what would that do to the server? Very little. The client, and it pretty graphics, mean absolutely nothing for server side.

    NCSoft won't create the extra work for themselves for completely restructuring the server engine. It won't change.. theyre not stupid.

    In c3 they completely changed the login packets structure.. notice c1off can only use a exe that is encrypted with EXECryptor to see the login screen correctly... which is a trial lol. The only other l2server exe has the login screen fuxed everyones humans and none of the stats apear.

    NCSoft won't re-structure the server in a way to create themselves an enourmus ammount of work, and L2J will really be on top of it as long as the community holds together. Its gaining C1OFF people every day.. and admins of c1off know alot about the minor innerworkings of the game, skills, etc.. and will benifit the l2j community greatly.

    Basicly, in due time, l2j will be top with no questions asked. At this point, its personal choice. Both options arent very stable/complete. ... but l2j will be on top in the end :)

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    tbh, you guys should all sit back and let Digital and his crew handle it. Whether they release their files publicly or only to a select group of servers, I couldn't care less... I'm back to playin officials on my friend's 53 Glad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theRAGE
    tbh, you guys should all sit back and let Digital and his crew handle it. Whether they release their files publicly or only to a select group of servers, I couldn't care less... I'm back to playin officials on my friend's 53 Glad...
    L O L is all i'm going to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aseren
    True ,
    besides this is c4 , it will go up all the way to c9 , imagine c9 .. the content will be incredible !
    l2j will fall apart soon enough when NCsoft desides to
    upgrade there engine to the newest Unreal shit (this will happen in c5-6), l2j will have be totally rewriten which most likely will set them back even more to a state
    where it might be impossible for them to catch up (project will fall apart?)

    And the official software can never be hexed good enough for a another version
    of the Unreal engine to connect to.

    Maybe we just should perfect c1-3 (maybe 4) and from that point
    just start making custom stuff for the l2 private servers.
    (I hope I'm totally wrong tho, I love the l2 private servers
    and hope they will stay around for years 2 come. I just doubt it..)
    Lineage2 will not/NEVER use the new unreal engine. Lineage3 will. that will be released sometime in 2007 for korea. sorry to burst yer bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakumi
    L O L is all i'm going to say.
    Apparently their emulator in C# is coming along quite nicely... so I'm afraid I don't understand the 'L O L'.

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    u know java can be even faster as C++ and C# but it needs to optimized, atm the L2j team working on better perfomance, they had an test server with 1900+ ppl without lag on an dual xeon machine, i think its good future for L2j. But im still working on C3 Modded :) ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliTha
    u know java can be even faster as C++ and C# but it needs to optimized, atm the L2j team working on better perfomance, they had an test server with 1900+ ppl without lag on an dual xeon machine, i think its good future for L2j. But im still working on C3 Modded :) ^^



    Ummmm, what the fuck kinda programming shit have you been reading? Java is perhaps the slowest language out....

    Next to assembly, C++ is a pretty damn fast language, why do you think most emulator authors, go with a mix of C++ (stability) and Assembler (speed) for their console emulation projects? anyone who is anyone that has any common sense in the programming world knows that these two languages work quite well with each other, as for C# I haven't had a whole lot of xp in working with C# but i'm hearing some pretty amazing shit about it.

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    java is not the slowest but its the most difficult language, maybe some say it work slow cuz they cant work with it cuz they have no knowledge, so dont talk shit;)

    U know soon there will be an Operation System based on Java out, named "looking glass"

    All know java will be the future ;)

    I have programmed with C++, C# and VB6 over 4 years and with java too and i can say java can be even faster ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliTha
    java is not the slowest but its the most difficult language, maybe some say it work slow cuz they cant work with it cuz they have no knowledge, so dont talk shit;)

    U know soon there will be an Operation System based on Java out, named "looking glass"

    All know java will be the future ;)

    I have programmed with C++, C# and VB6 over 4 years and with java too and i can say java can be even faster ;)
    Stfu for once in your damned live man
    You don't know shit you asswhipe


    http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2...ptalker7ji.jpg

    Check that link , your being laughed at ffs
    you haven't looked at the source code ONCE
    You have no idea whats going on your just
    leeching new stuff of there
    Now go away fag

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    Lineage and new Unreal engine

    Actually NCSoft licensed the 3rd version fo Unreal engine not for Lineage but for ... Tabula Rasa. You'll see that pretty soon. Lineage II will stick to Unreal 2 engine for the time being unless they suddenly decide to make a future Chronicle with Unreal 3 which is less probable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliTha
    java is not the slowest but its the most difficult language, maybe some say it work slow cuz they cant work with it cuz they have no knowledge, so dont talk shit;)

    U know soon there will be an Operation System based on Java out, named "looking glass"

    All know java will be the future ;)

    I have programmed with C++, C# and VB6 over 4 years and with java too and i can say java can be even faster ;)


    Wow you've been programming with those languages for four years eh? well i've been doing this for 10 yrs, Java is a slow language and it's not difficult at all to work with.. Java is a networking language and omg can you imagine an OS based off of Java? god save us all. People are going to have 5 ghz machines and it's gonna boot up slower than windows xp on a pentium 133mhz. So in closing this I can honestly say you're full of shit when you say Java is faster than C++ or C# hell I doubt it's faster than VB6... even as primitive as the Basic language is, I still think it can own Java anyday.

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    Sorcerer Supreme MakaveliTha is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aseren
    Stfu for once in your damned live man
    You don't know shit you asswhipe
    http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2...ptalker7ji.jpg
    Check that link , your being laughed at ffs
    you haven't looked at the source code ONCE
    You have no idea whats going on your just
    leeching new stuff of there
    Now go away fag
    loooooool this is not my nick, i have all registered with MakaveliTha, so stfu ;)

    im not the only makaveli in the net, look in the ragezone irc channel, there is an makaveli and its not me ;)

    and btw look here too: http://forum.ragezone.com/showthread.php?t=58860 this is an makaveli too and its not me, so pls dont talk shit with your little dick, fuckin whore ;)
    Last edited by MakaveliTha; 02-08-05 at 04:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliTha
    loooooool this is not my nick, i have all registered with MakaveliTha, so stfu ;)

    im not the only makaveli in the net, look in the ragezone irc channel, there is an makaveli and its not me ;)

    and btw look here too: http://forum.ragezone.com/showthread.php?t=58860 this is an makaveli too and its not me, so pls dont talk shit with your little dick, fuckin whore ;)

    The more you open your mouth the more you proof how
    fucking stupid you are.
    Yes, thats you little bitch, we both know it.

    oh and stop blinking with your eye to me, you faggot

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    lol dont talk me ur problems, i know u are an gay not me and i feel with u, rofl

    The more you open your mouth the more you proof how
    fucking stupid you are.
    Yes, thats you little bitch, we both know it.
    lol nvm... i think u know who is fuckin stupid, yeah u have 100 points, its u, the only knwoledge who u have is posting shit....

    so go back in the cellar where your parents has locked u and start playin with your lil dick, fuckin biatch, u cant beat me so stfu

    and btw u can pm this guy on L2j page and its 100% not me, so dont talk shit, im not on l2j.sourceforge ;)

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    No comment....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliTha
    lol dont talk me ur problems, i know u are an gay not me and i feel with u, rofl



    lol nvm... i think u know who is fuckin stupid, yeah u have 100 points, its u, the only knwoledge who u have is posting shit....

    so go back in the cellar where your parents has locked u and start playin with your lil dick, fuckin biatch, u cant beat me so stfu

    and btw u can pm this guy on L2j page and its 100% not me, so dont talk shit, im not on l2j.sourceforge ;)


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    Oooookay.... this turned from a dissing l2j to calling each other gay thread,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caalem
    Lineage2 will not/NEVER use the new unreal engine. Lineage3 will. that will be released sometime in 2007 for korea. sorry to burst yer bubble

    actually. the news going around in korea is that C4 will use the new unreal engine. and also. will upgrade their 3d capability. i think you should do some more research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanojin
    Wow you've been programming with those languages for four years eh? well i've been doing this for 10 yrs, Java is a slow language and it's not difficult at all to work with.. Java is a networking language and omg can you imagine an OS based off of Java? god save us all. People are going to have 5 ghz machines and it's gonna boot up slower than windows xp on a pentium 133mhz. So in closing this I can honestly say you're full of shit when you say Java is faster than C++ or C# hell I doubt it's faster than VB6... even as primitive as the Basic language is, I still think it can own Java anyday.

    how very true you are. it would be the equivilant of like a 0.333 mgz machine maybe lol. not exactly sure but. you hit this right on the nose. congrats lol as for the guy who really truely thinks java is faster then c++. heh. prove it. cuz as far as my schooling in game design goes. java is very slow. easy as hell to learn. and even tho most gamer devs use it. they dont use it for much. maybe movement here and there and just what kanojin said here. networking.

    Proud Student of Al Collins College Phoenix AZ Game Design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanojin
    Ummmm, what the fuck kinda programming shit have you been reading? Java is perhaps the slowest language out....
    Next to assembly, C++ is a pretty damn fast language, why do you think most emulator authors, go with a mix of C++ (stability) and Assembler (speed) for their console emulation projects? anyone who is anyone that has any common sense in the programming world knows that these two languages work quite well with each other, as for C# I haven't had a whole lot of xp in working with C# but i'm hearing some pretty amazing shit about it.

    C# is a difficult but truely amazing language. very fast and is compatible with most other cpu languages out there. i hear D&DO was prolly using this so we should expect a fast paced game from them.



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