Looking for some OLD files

[hijakob]

Bringing old memories here too.

I've been working for years now on my own server. More work has been done that what you can immagine, altough its not finished but the changes made will be something that will truly give a new experience of the game. As the original gameplay is still present including many other ways to enjoy it. The goal is, as you said, to have the same experience that we had years ago but within some new content available.

As a 3D developper first of all my main goal was to found the limits of the Znzin engine that was incredibly underrated and not exploited at its limits.
It has possibilities you can can't immagine, many things people have never done before that can be now done. I can't and don't want to reveal much more about it as it is still an ongoing work, that will sure take some time as I'm alone working on it. But I promise without any doubts it wil be something.

hij.

[Garnet]

Guys, what about trying to compile the ragezone sources?

Because i far as i remember, they are working on debug without doing anything, or if it doesn't, there is only a few things to do.

You are asking for it but you ALREADY have it. And they are complete, stop trusting people that say the sources are broken.

Maybe i have a backup of it (And no i will not release my sources because they don't 100% belong to me, but at start i'm 90% sure they was the same as the rz one so my source ARE the rz source) on an external HDD upgraded to VS 2010 but if you people would just try to compile (after you upgraded it to VS 2010 of course that will make things easier) and tell me the error you encounter (if you encounter it...) during compilation, you would save me some time.

Seriously, no one replied to all my post on the Source Thread! I wonder if no one tried to compile the files or if people that did it keep it for themself.

Be sure that i have nothing against help you to get it working, but to be honest i really think that people that cannot figure how to make the source code working by themself will never be able to work on the source code and make new things, since the difficulty to work with that source code is just so higher than just get them working.
And the files how they are actually (so, old evo) are a lot worst than compiled Arcturus, i would choose Arcturus any day over stock evo source for doing a server.

But if you have the knowledge and ready to spend a astronomic amount of time on it, it maybe be worth to choose the evo source over Arcturus.

[zcool1956]

I would like to help...But like I said all of my knowledge is in building and repairing computers along with networking.

[Garnet]

My IRL work is the same as you :) I'm not a coder, and i'm still learning with the sources and tools but this is an incredible exercice to improve really fast because of the difficult to work on it :)

Did you tried to compile the source? Did you have errors?

[zcool1956]

I don't have Vs...I can't afford it.

[Garnet]

@ zcool: check your PM :)
@ all: I just want to confirm that the MeGaMax source are so easy to get it working, i just helped a friend working with me to get the sources working, i only had a few errors that were so evident to fix and i had to remove a condition to pass the assertion error. Took no time.

So i confirm, if you people say that the sources are broken, you didn't even try.

Note: i've used the 'Old Version' folder, but i think the "New Version" would compile the same.

Only a brain is required, you don't need to be a C++ killer.

[Purpleyouko]

I don't have Vs...I can't afford it.

You can't afford free?
Microsoft have been giving it away free for years. A limited version sure but it should be enough to compile what you need. It's definitely enough to compile the trose source.
http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/do...d-2010-express

[hijakob]

@Garnet: I'll never work on Evo as ... Well old iRose player will understand why.. I just can't get used to evo. Its skill system mostly.

Anyways, I've been throw megamax's release and I can tell it has some screwed stuffs for sure, broken is a bit too much, I'd say.. Damaged.
Most work, but alot of work has to be done until you have something stable. Its not because its compiling its working perfecly if you know what I mean.

I'm modding the same way titan and other did injecting dlls to the original Trose.exe and it seems to be the best way to have something working properly for the moment.

hij.

[XxXshidoXxX]

@Garnet: I'll never work on Evo as ... Well old iRose player will understand why.. I just can't get used to evo. Its skill system mostly.

Anyways, I've been throw megamax's release and I can tell it has some screwed stuffs for sure, broken is a bit too much, I'd say.. Damaged.
Most work, but alot of work has to be done until you have something stable. Its not because its compiling its working perfecly if you know what I mean.

I'm modding the same way titan and other did injecting dlls to the original Trose.exe and it seems to be the best way to have something working properly for the moment.

hij.

Look i understand you don't like evo as an irose player but i think we have to give it a chance, at first i was the same as you ; I was an Irose player and the sole thought of evo made me sick (hence why i joined osirose in the first place).
But evo introduced some features that open a lot of new perspectives for the future of rose, the new stats, the damage cap removed, the skill trees...
I mean all in one it has the shape of a modern MMO, whereas irose still use a lot of old mechanics that are becoming problematic especially when we introduce new high level content such as oro++.
And while its true that we can ALWAYS patch Irose to match modern standards its such a pain in the ass without at least the client source nor the server one.

At least with evo we can have either the server source or the client one or both, which helps A LOT.
The best possible outcome in my opinion is some osrose server like along with the 137 client, we could literally do anything easily.
Taking the actual evo base + iRose (revamped a bit) dmg system + Hybrid spawns (evo/irose) would be a great start i believe.
Personally i really like the fact that evo gave some special asset to every weapon for each class ( like how the spear/sword/axe soldier will have different uses )

You can't afford free?

Freedom isn't free #amerika

[hijakob]

All you mentioned, damage cap, giving each weapon a special way of being used or skilltree, you can do everything on iRose too, and much more.

Trust me I gave a chance to Evo. Many actually as I played NA on its early days when it was paying ehe. Clerics were something at that time, unstopable.

Its not that i don't want to hear about evo, I just can't stand working on something I know I don't really like if you know what I mean.

Working on an iRose (arcturus based) as I've been doing so far made me realise why I like so much developing, because I'm working on something that I've loved, I bet we all did if we didn't we wouldn't be here today, but theres nothing like the feeling of developing and trying to improve a game that deservs it when you really enjoy it, a true passion I should say.

hij.

[Viewer]

Using Arcturus in any form is going to hold you back. Why would you rely on reverse engineering when you have the source code? Arcturus has way more limits than you seem to think - everything down to the structures of objects.

If you're going to do anything, make a hybrid like we did. Our base was the Evo Client/Server - so we converted all of the major systems to the IROSE style (skills, stats, refining, ...) - you then have IROSE wrapped with all the fixes / changes brought to the table. If it's the UI you don't like, then convert that back as well.

There is absolutely no reason to use Arcturus if you're serious about trying to developer / create a server - unless you're doing it for a bit of fun.

[hijakob]

Using Arcturus in any form is going to hold you back. Why would you rely on reverse engineering when you have the source code? Arcturus has way more limits than you seem to think - everything down to the structures of objects.

If you're going to do anything, make a hybrid like we did. Our base was the Evo Client/Server - so we converted all of the major systems to the IROSE style (skills, stats, refining, ...) - you then have IROSE wrapped with all the fixes / changes brought to the table. If it's the UI you don't like, then convert that back as well.

There is absolutely no reason to use Arcturus if you're serious about trying to developer / create a server - unless you're doing it for a bit of fun.

what do you mean by "us", or "we" ?

I'm rather serious about the work I'm doing. And I'm enthousiastic about it as I like what I'm doing. Like you said, alot of fun, but its some serious fun if you allow me to talk that way.

hij.

[Viewer]

what do you mean by "us", or "we" ?

Arua.

[hijakob]

I see.

Never played arua tho. I tough it was like most servers, some content took here and here using the existing mods at will.

Glad you're working on something concreet. Hope it'll last, I may have a look latter.

hij.

[CircaDerka]

I see.

Never played arua tho. I tough it was like most servers, some content took here and here using the existing mods at will.

Glad you're working on something concreet. Hope it'll last, I may have a look latter.

hij.

You do realize that Arua has outlasted any other private server right? lol ruff, 7hearts, Akram, titan.