Allen if x2matt does not release the source i will simply do it , as for now i wont nor do i wish to give it out , in other words if any one here is a great programmer unlike me i am not you can actually make this source a irose source hell as far as i have heard its simple as fuk.Originally Posted by Allen Sobao
And if any one wants to rose engine well semi fixed hell just pm me :D don't be afraid to ask
The irony! People bitching about someone profiting from someone else's work, while everyone is working on Rose Online.. So remind me, which one of you actually created this game? xD Flocking around waiting for the source to fall from the sky like a bunch of fucking vultures... Whether or not anyone is willing to look at it this way, this is a crook community all the same. If anything, selling a specific tool just goes against common community accepted rules.. like, don't steal content from another private server, or don't release a tool that you didn't make, or blah blah whatever. Yet nobody seems to care when extracted clients are posted up for grabs. This map editor is no different than any other software that I can guarantee 99% of you torrent because you're too broke to actually buy it, so don't jump onto this self righteous rant.
Finally Some one with a reasonable post and a point
1. I never made any profit from ROSE.
2.I NEVER used any of the junk and crap other Pservers developed.
3.I want this source because I want to do things I could never do with a server emulator.
You can't judge the lot because of the few, that's pure discrimination ;)
Such a simple view.. If you so much as host a server available to other players, profit or not, you are providing players an alternative place to play the game, thus taking away a portion of their deserved population. Technically, the same applies to any utilized resource obtained in an unlegit manor. How many in this community have an actual legal copy of VS, or 3ds? One could continue to nit pick until everyone has dirt on them, and I am not one to judge. I am simply stating that what is "right" and "wrong" here is fluid, we decide what is acceptable based on what is convenient for us, and because of this, nobody has the right to say shit about anything that anyone does, other than the moderators of the current place of discussion.
I see your point ^-^
Haven't actually seen a moderator post a damn thing here for weeks anyway.
I am only ranting because I had someone in my face over this matter.... asking me how the seller obtained this version of the map editor, which yes, does have the slightly altered interface that I applied to it a long ass time ago, so I should know... no, I did not give it to them, I have a good idea of where they got it, but I'm not one for making assumptions, or pointing fingers... they even had the nerve to accuse me of being biased in the matter, or being in "cahoots" with the seller.... sorry, I just fucking lost it.... I haven't had anything to do with this game in ages.... I passed the torch, and left... hell, the map editor version that is being sold is so fucking old that I could not possibly care... back some years ago, I chose this little xna project as a learning tinkering toy.... does the version being sold have the accumulated cursor-related memory leak fixed? no... does it have object picking with triangle accuracy? no... mouse wheel selected object toggling based on current bounding frustum? no... minimap maker? no.. camera animation player? no.. particle rendering? no... I could go on, but you get the idea... and then the said person....who SOMEHOW got into my skype....changes their tune, trying to BUY my version? hahahahahaa no... what the hell.... did they NOT just attempt to bitch me out over THIS? i give up...
The point is , i am selling some thing that some one is not selling So if some one buys it from me he can provide it to u guys and so on , its a private server discussion fact is non of you understand that which makes u no different from me trying to profit from something that is given by some one that's all arguements for this shit makes no sense , people are waiting for something that has 0% chance of coming out unless one provides it to them hell i dont even have the full source i have 5 files that are not in the source it self , xtrm2matt is a liar you're waiting for something that will never come out he is just delaying it he cares about his money alone.
Point proven
technically, if you want to talk about what is truly right and truly wrong, one could argue that xadet is an ass for selling an application which edits somebody else's game... I like how game development has evolved.... lol... it started as... goal: make a game people will buy... then later, goal: make a game people will buy, and nobody can cheat within.... then even later, goal: make a game people will buy, nobody can cheat within, and people cannot destructively attack.... and finally now, goal: make a game people will buy, nobody will cheat within, people cannot destructively attack, and is difficult to reverse engineer so that people cannot steal our game and community, thus taking away from our profit we make from our years worth of work
The problem is that some people act all high and mighty, because their puny little tools are ooh soo the best.
OsRose started out as an OPEN SOURCE community, yet people kept tools behind and acted all high and mighty because of it.
Heck, even lmame kept his own tool behind his back, THE FUCKING IRONY! And even more, we all became asses, because this behavior is contagious as fuck.
We should've started out as an actual open source community, keeping nothing back, no secrets, no keeping stuff in "elite" circles, just share and care! I vaguely remember the "community" agreeing on something like that a while, but nothing came from it. But it's just not possible, we've all been infected with hate and greed.
TL;DR: Community shit, let's all just go home.
Sadly this is quite true...
Even from the beginning everything went wrong...After that small johnny bravo release (Which i still do have a screen for whatever reasons http://thewaveteam.webs.com/screen022.jpg // remember this ? ;) http://thewaveteam.webs.com/bugg.JPG ) everyone began to become selfish (Hell even psycho didn't release his fucking sandbox )
Lets all blame AuRose/hRose for starting the hidden file trend ahah.
Oh and btw if anyone from AuRose reads this post, you guys were fucking asshole, i remember asking you guys for help when Osprose/Osirose first started (their project was dead for like 3 years back then ) and they still refused me the access to the source... (source that was never used by them btw )
Not even gonna talk about zeWorld and such... kekest of of kek.
Such a shame, all together we would have completed everything a long time ago.
Last edited by XxXshidoXxX; 06-04-14 at 03:19 PM.
Well, I wasn't around at the time, I didn't even know about Rose at the time then.
But we don't get that far with blaming do we?
I too, have files I'm not sharing, but I rather keep my promise to this guy that gave me that stuff than share it with a community that can only flame.
I'll be releasing some stuff soon if some guys give me their consent for it, let's see what happens then.
Now that nobody cares anymore, rose top 100 servers more accurately described as rose top 4 servers, along with 96 dead websites, everyone is willing to share everything... xD
But in all seriousness, it takes only a year or two to make a fresh new game these days, with plenty of low cost and free engines to work with. The rose community has been idling and begging for a solid eight or more years, not counting the pre-osrose days. What's up with that? Hypothetically, one team could have spit out three or four games by now, content and all lol
Or one really awesome game and a sequel o.o
