TeboMS funniest joke i've heard in awhile.
TeboMS funniest joke i've heard in awhile.
Guys... Let me ask this: Those guys who made World of Warcraft, or the guys who made MapleStory, or the guys who made whatever other hit MMORPG - if they didn't put their goals and dreams and wishes so far up the sky it would fucking leave earth's gravity - what would we have today? That's right. A KILLER pong game. Tons of them. In all kinds and shapes. So many pong games it wouldn't be a "video game industry", it would be a fucking "KILLER PONG game industry".
So yeah, you HAVE to start out small - you don't want to fail yourself. To be too disappointed. But you still have to DREAM SO FUCKING BIG IT COULD LOOP AROUND THE UNIVERSE TWICE.
Because that's how thing work in this world: We all follow the same, boring, usual, overused god damn path that was there forever because we are being told there is no other way. And we are being told this so many times it gets stuck in our fucking heads until we become nothing more than another face in the crowd walking the same road we walked all this time.
But then, comes up that one person, who is brave enough to stand up and say: I DON'T GIVE A SINGLE GOD DAMN FUCK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY IS IMPOSSIBLE. And that person starts fighting his way, building a new road where it was said it's impossible to build something. And he fails a lot. A FUCKING LOT. And people keep telling him he won't make it. They say it's hopeless. But he just doesn't give a damn fuck and keeps trying.
And when he finishes building that road, those people find out it's a much faster way to get where they wanted. And he becomes a hero.
You see, telling this guy he wouldn't make it is just plain fucking stupid. You can't know - maybe this guy will become the next fucking hit that will break all boundaries that exist in gaming and will build the top-tier best-selling true-masterpiece game that you and those who come after you will play for ages. He might as well just fail and lose it all , but I don't think that this is a reason to stop him from what he wants to do.
FightDesign, please - don't listen to those fucking idiots. Don't give up. Ever. Because it is quite possible that one day those people will be using exactly what they said you can't do.
Except this guy isn't starting small, he is starting way over his head.
Let me respond with this: What do Blizzard Entertainment, Nexon Korea, and the makers of any other hit MMO all have in common?Originally Posted by SuPeR SoNiC
Well, there's actually a lot of things. Let's just list some.
- They're an established corporation.
- They have a large development team behind each, and every project.
- They have deep pockets that allow them to afford to run a full-scale MMORPG.
- They pay talented developers to dedicate all of their time to a project. Money is a powerful motivator.
Not to mention, Blizzard already had developed a cohesive universe with the Warcraft series, before World of Warcraft was released.
So, where does that leave our friend, Fight Design?
- He's an individual.
- He is working by himself..
- He does not have the funds to run a full-scale MMORPG.
- He is not paid, it is all hobby work. There is no indication that he will be as strongly motivated towards this project as an employee at a company would be. There is also no indication that he falls into the realm of a "talented developer" given the lack of any real substance to the work shared here.
Yup, sounds like a critical success in the making to me.
Why are you saying crap when you don't know me? O_O
HOW DO YOU KNOW I DIDN'T START SMALL?
Crap, dude, you're just corrupt... I've been developing for years.
Why are you talking out of your ass knowing nothing about me?
I am starting with this project... And I never said it will become like MapleStory so soon, right?
And I never said I am going to be as successful as them, did I?
I am just showing / introducing my work here. and if you have something wrong with it, just go out of this thread.
You tell me I can't do it? what facts are based on what you're saying? none.
I developed games on my own, and gained knowledge on Networking with several projects,
Now what makes you think I can't develop this? sorry, you're talking crap.
Look, as long as you don't have anything worthwhile to show, you're going to receive crap. So hurry up and get us some epic progress and videos, and prove us wrong.
History has shown time and time again, that an MMO requires a large team with lots of resources. If you can prove history wrong, by all means. It would usher in a new area of MMOs by lone developers. Imagine the choices gamers would have!
Remember, actions speak louder than words, so make us proud with some actual progress!
Now if during the course of your project you realize it's just too much for you, well congratufuckinglations, you've joined the massive group of developers who thought they could write an mmo by themselves and then failed. Trust me, even I went through this phase, and I felt exactly the way you do now. It's perfectly normal for many developers, but you decided to go public on your idea and attract all the hate of RZ. For making that kind of decision, honestly, you deserve the crap you get from the others.
I will, but I am not going to hurry for anyone.
I have life.
I introduced my project here and it doesn't mean I have
to hurry for anyone. you will see progress by the time.
Do NOT listen to them, don't let them take you down.
Good luck :)
Just answer me this:
The people that run those money-loaded organized companies - How did they start?
Not with an MMO.
For example, the famous Blizzard, how did they start?
According to Wikipedia:
At first they didn't even make their own games, they just ported games!Based in Irvine, California, the company originally concentrated primarily on the creation of game ports for other studios before beginning development of their own software in 1993 with the development of games like Rock n' Roll Racing and The Lost Vikings. In 1994 the company became Blizzard Entertainment Inc before being acquired by distributor Davidson & Associates and later by Vivendi. Shortly thereafter, Blizzard shipped their breakthrough hit Warcraft: Orcs & Humans. Blizzard went on to create several successful video games, including the Warcraft sequels, StarCraft, and Diablo series, and the MMORPG World of Warcraft. Their most recent projects include World of Warcraft's fourth expansion, Mists of Pandaria, StarCraft II's first expansion, Heart of the Swarm, and the recently released Diablo 3.
Shouldn't... I dont know the gameplay be created before some stupid login screen?
I'm not gonna act like i know sht about development, but pretty much if you read into what game creaters do when they create there games i'm pretty sure they go for artwork of the characters/gameplay before creating a login screen ó .ó
'cause i'm pretty sure a login screen can't be that hard to make compared to gameplay mechanics...
Either way i know sht so Good Luck i guess...
Ok lets all stop arguin about this.. I wish you GL and hope it comes out positive.. on topic My suggestion is to make the storyline not boring.. also.. suggestion when you die. make it alittle hard to come back to life but also can train in underworld or what eva its called.
That ignorance only proves your idiotic comments worth nothing.
I said plenty of time I didn't start with this. I've been developing for years.
End of the line.
Of course they didn't start with an MMO. But I assure you they tried something big related to their skills. Just like all programmers - we all want something great at the beginning.
And that's the thing - trying to make an MMO might be a failure, but it's still a worthy experience. Why? Because you learn. You learn mostly from your mistakes, but by trying to make an MMO as a beginner you can learn a lot of things that will assist you in the future, even if they won't help your MMO project.
And this is exactly what those guys I asked about did. That's how they started. They tried something huge - and they failed - but they learned enough from this experience to help them later. And that's the exact reason why they have these MMOs today.
So please, don't be dicks and kill this guy's motivation - it is our failures that teach us the most. And if this guy will fail, it'll be much worth it than not trying at all.
