All ASCENT & DB teams combine force:) PLEASE!!!

[omegatanker]

It all boils down to this.

The WOW Emu community teams have been lagging lately big time.

WhyDB, NCDB, or any DB for that matter are so behind they got Blue Boxes on their spawned mobs and needless issues that never existed before 3.+.+ came along. It's a much bigger world now to manage and things are a mess. I don't blame them because they gotta wait for the CORE developers to improve things and get it right. That's another sad issue.

Now we got ArcEmu, Ascent Again, Aspire HearthStone Core, & a couple other private teams. The thing is each team seem to have solved and fixed certain issues while the other team is scratching their heads wondering how to CUT n Paste, "steal" the fixes to port into theirs and not knowing what it really suppose to do or fix. With this said most the crap are not fixed but just a whole bunch of "FOR NOW" coding that means they don't have it fixed but just a temporary way around the issue. Also each group can't agree on the same DB formats and it's making the DB developers suffer a bit on the compatibility issue. ArcEmu I heard is installing a new patch for their DB columns and so so. Now the old Editors that worked before are no longer working because of a stupid decision from some teams to change their DB formats. Ascent remains the same but changing also and now we got a whole world of compatibility issue and nothing is getting done.

Look at SUN++. Being so far ahead of ArcScript but now having issues because there's ArcScript. I can't believe ArcEmu, Sun++ and the teams can't all just work together to get it all fixed. Close the compatibility gap and make this Ascent thing what it was long ago. "ONE" team.

It's getting old isn't it? We didn't even finish up with TBC. We got spawns doing jack in blade mountain and other stupid issues cause of this multiple developer issue.

We basically gotta choose sides and live with their limitations and hope we can add things ourselves from the other teams fixes or live with their clueless bugs and work around buggy revs. The problem is that each team has their weird way of coding and you gotta learn how both sides do things to get familiar with their coding and commenting habits. Try understanding all the teams at once. ArcEmu comments are pretty nice to understand while Ascent & Aspires are way stingy and nothing is commented so their fixes are much tougher to grasp & convert.

Now you can't really contribute to all the teams and you probably don't wanna do that because then it be just you putting effort into too many teams and that's mad work. Why???

What the hell. Man it's sad. We should already have this core up to pace. It's really not that hard if all teams combine force. Oh man that's much needed at times like this. We can't all keep this thing going at this slow of a pace. It's just way too GOD damn slow. WAY TOO SLOW.

There is absolutely no more glory these days with this type of me vs you progress. No repacks of real significant magnitude, no fixes that are real fixes, no more people are coding anymore for these EMU's cause of this war. It's sad. SAD!

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The battle continues...

UPDATE:
SUN++ suddenly crashes with latest ARCEMU REV.
ARCEMU changed something or maybe SUN++. Either way neither side confesses and now only time will tell if the next few REV will be compatible again. Checked SUN++ site and it warns of being incompatible with ArcEmu. Their choice of EMU is with ASCENT. WTF?

UPDATE:
FLEX announces that he has stopped his support & development of the FLEX EZ DB editor. He says he was doing us a big f*cking favor by even making it compatible with ArcEmu. Now the funny thing is that he wasn't even the one that worked his ass off on the editor. All he did was spend 10 minutes changing the basic table for compatibility with ArcEmu's item columns. Now about his spending the entire day on it is outright stupid. LAME! Changing the programs name/label and 2 columns is hardly a days work in VISUAL FREAKING BASIC. Ok, maybe he did spend all day long changing just those 2 nub codes. I will admit he is doing us a favor by stopping work on it. Lets hope someone smarter continues work on it.

UPDATE:
Some EMU's are using PREP AURA from ARENA to allow spells that use RUNE energy to function. Desperation? Maybe.[/B]

[MentaL]

[Razial7]

Well we can dream =) Great point!

[badboystar]

Yea that would be great! That the database teamse merge togetter and the emulator teams as well. Everyone one would have less work then because of more people. And bugs etc. are fixed faster.

[Neosophye]

Very nice post i agree fully with you The problem: issues between powertripping mods/admins wanting to run this stuff them selfs make it impossible to team up thats why they left eachother and want to have the power themselfs even if it requires stealing others true work

I am wanting to say stuff like this and carefully tried before in diffrent ways for months it wont work.biggest issues iam having the limitations and control they put you into

.char additem 1

Who in their sick mind made this crap up really ,i really really doubt blizzard is using this style in their game if needed

Yet the mister who invented this control a thousand users everyday using their core

Total control i say and seriously guys whats the diffrents between Ascent/Aspire/Heartstone ?

Databases are the biggest mess of all times, yes even NCDB

Seriously none watches project lore ? there u can see how the game plays or need to run you take that information just watching the movies u fix more then let them go to blizzard grab the information with tools and let them say to you they have the so called real data wich u find out later in your server its not even close to that
So much for so many people fixing databases and u can get the hundreds of tools to fix your database

Lets just add a few random colums in tables to not work on another emu/core just to tick/piss or mess/control people up...
If ncdb grabs the information with sniffers to look into WDB files why in heavens name are not even the gameobjects working wich did in WOWEMU..... in their time... on patch 1.12 pathetic i say. Your totally right and i say post this on more places maybe some people wake up, i doubt it tho to the ones who walk with their heads high up in the air.....and iam not even talking about people asking for donation more and more for their hard work even tho everythings changes or is not working and also the stuff your doing is for private use and suppost to be free i thought thats why we are emulating a game engine and database to let it run freely not to pay for the game or montly fee yet i see servers with donations or developers beggin for money else they cant survive.. if u cant handle the heat dont do it or run a communitie wich was intended to be free ... Sorry for the big text flood and the grammar

[omegatanker]

I hear ya:) The twisted thing about TBC version is that there's less bugs and the DB's are more functional. In WOTLK you have to more tweak it yourself and take things from all the developers and combine them. Course there's little things like different columns, variables and such you gotta know to do that.

[trunks94]

They won't join, they all want credits of making emu, but it would be best for everyone..Like have not so bugged server

[Izman]

I agree completely... 3+ buggy emulators... 1 good one? not a hard choice. There might be some conflicts, but at least there will be one good emu.

[maJito-Ice]

Totally agreed guys! i'm already posted this thread on whydb ncdb arcemu and sun++ forums! ALL OTHER GUYS DON"T USE ARCEMU ASPIRE WHYDB NCDB AND ALL THIS Fuc%$N shit BEFORE THEY WILL COMBINE ALL!! ThIS STUPID Hasbro ALREADY BANNED ME FOR THIS POST! WEll DON"T USE ARCEMU!!!!!!This Leader is really DON'T RESPECT OPEN SOURCE!!!!! ALL MUST COMBINE TO ONE!!!!!

[acustic]

Be serious.. this will never happen because they all want something different .. like arc-emu wants money and it's ran by a stupid kid who can't code.. why would anyone merge with them ? Think about openascent.. why did it die ? because some retarded money dispute between the "leaders"

And just to be clear here... i don't have anything against having 10 giant donate buttons and sticky posts on your forum arc-emu .. you can make money i don't care.. the problem is you think you are an emu when actually all you do is steal code .. and more then that.. you don't even know what do fucking do with it.. you copy paste it there.. and fuck up 50 more spells by fixing one..

[emerged]

OK IF this were to EVER happen you would see the ENTIRE wow-Scene close, the reason that they are seperate i because they have different views opinions and look for different quality's in people now if you go search about this it has been suggested MANY times and many times EDUCATED people have said IT WILL NOT AND SHOULD NOT WORK....

[aceindy]

Spoken like true leechers, amem.

[acustic]

+ How could people hate a team and love another if everyone would merge together ?
Like playing soccer with only 1 team.. => It will be the only one witch would make it the best => witch would make it a lazy-fuck-emu like arc-emo is