Feedback and Suggestions (both yours and ours)

[cypher]

Hello Evil Members,

I fear that I have bad news. Cabal Online section is rapidly dieing and loosing it's glory. Members are afraid to post, people don't share anything with others, members getting infracted by me and my megalomaniac co-mods and others.

This needs to end right now. I have an idea on how to find these problems. I will start pointing out what I want from members to do at Cabal Online section, then you will post what you want from us (Evil Moderators) to do for you:

1. I want you to start posting! Ask for help, start discussions (legal by our rules or not, depends) and help each other.
2. Share your work with other in order to receive feedback and ideas.
3. Stop treating moderators differently, WE ARE NOT GODS! We are just members who accepted a job at the forum in order to help YOU! Treat us as equals, PLEASE!
4. Moar Cake!!!

Thank you for helping us help you help us all,
Cypher.

[MentaL]

[Yamachi]

Also, we encourage (this is a good thing!) any and all discussions about EP3/4/5 features. If you have an idea on how to enable something (like Chaos Arena, for example), discuss it with the rest of the community! We don't mind people doing this. The only thing we don't want is people constantly asking questions about why they can't make things work. However, if you're making progress on something and you need a little help, don't be afraid to ask!

Another thing I have noticed is that this forum is very disorganised. It's hard for newbies to find the information they need. I will be very busy over the next few weeks fixing all of this. I will create several new stickies with links to all of the guides you need. Also, I'll be creating a lot of new threads containing information that nobody has ever posted on here, before. It's time we stopped acting like Elitists and starting helping. That means EVERYONE, including you leechers that run these big servers and never give anything back. Show your appreciation by sharing a little information :)

[scoutwmd]

I would like to take time and thank everyone from RZ for their time and effort. I really don't like to see the cabal section die. The efforts from the Developers big or small have been good for everyone. I have dealt with a lot of their help in the past and hope it keeps going. Hopefully, I can start getting more questions and ideas out of my mouth. But thank you RZ Developers for all your assistance.

[SheenBR]

IMHO, IDK whats the point to prohibit discussions about EP3. I dunno much about PServers, but, If we want some progress, none of that should be prohibited. Otherwise, pple will just move to another forum where that is allowed. Thats what I think. Xtrap discussions should stay prohibited as well.

[cypher]

EP3 Discussions were prohibited in order to control the flow of "offtopic/spam". If you look at the thread about one year old you will see what I mean. About 30 - 40 threads with "Help me, I want CA, SIGMETAL CRAP".. Basically those threads were not going anywhere so we had to take steps. All discussions about ep3 and other features are allowed as long as no begging, or useless posts will not be posted. Please understand us that we must enforce the board rules.

[phiber]

That means EVERYONE, including you leechers that run these big servers and never give anything back. Show your appreciation by sharing a little information :)

i hope you aren't saying that for us(?)

I think the cabal section just need a little more patience with newbies.

[Yamachi]

i hope you aren't saying that for us(?)

I think the cabal section just need a little more patience with newbies.

hehe no, I don't mean EK :P BTW, I agree... I have been a little... harsh with people in the past. I apologise to anyone I scared away. I was just a bit annoyed that people wouldn't read the rules or search before asking questions. Then again, I never really realised how hard it was to find decent information in these forums...

[PunkS7yle]

Well, I guess this forum does need more guides and info to be shared ¬_¬.

[LostSpirit]

i hope you aren't saying that for us(?)

Maybe it's time for some people to share a little/big of information, it would not kill anyone right?
But it is only my opinion. Redo some tutorials would be great, but better yet is extra information.

@cypher
Congratulations for the initiative.

[-Jumong-]

I consider my self a real newbie on this section but me and my staff arent newbie in gaming. But we find that we are alone doing our server and theres no place to lean on until this thread is created. What we really need here is more information.

xXx: Release a full guide what are the changes advisable to make or edit on cabalmain.exe after you downloaded a cleaned cabalmain v22 from old official server. This way at least we can help releasing anti cheats or help how to protect ones server in full modification. Well we still can do that but its always advisable to use a fresh file.

xXx: Information on adding stuff on your package release like new items, we might encounter bugs yes but we can also find ways to fix this bugs getting more reports of the bugs encountered on doing those addons.

Helping each other on this section is much better since this section have a real active moderators and developers, just have a few information shared and having everyday post with help topics on something might be the way to find fixes :D

[cypher]

i hope you aren't saying that for us(?)

I think the cabal section just need a little more patience with newbies.

RaGEZONE has full respect @ all big servers out there, however this means they can show a bit of faith and release a bit or two of info that doesn't affect their server's. This being said does not apply to Elite Kingdoms who is always responsive and helpful on all questions and supported TDP for quite a while now.

hehe no, I don't mean EK :P BTW, I agree... I have been a little... harsh with people in the past. I apologise to anyone I scared away. I was just a bit annoyed that people wouldn't read the rules or search before asking questions. Then again, I never really realised how hard it was to find decent information in these forums...

<3

Maybe it's time for some people to share a little/big of information, it would not kill anyone right?
But it is only my opinion. Redo some tutorials would be great, but better yet is extra information.

@cypher
Congratulations for the initiative.

It was Yamachi's idea so yeah Yamachi!

I consider my self a real newbie on this section but me and my staff arent newbie in gaming. But we find that we are alone doing our server and theres no place to lean on until this thread is created. What we really need here is more information.

xXx: Release a full guide what are the changes advisable to make or edit on cabalmain.exe after you downloaded a cleaned cabalmain v22 from old official server. This way at least we can help releasing anti cheats or help how to protect ones server in full modification. Well we still can do that but its always advisable to use a fresh file.

xXx: Information on adding stuff on your package release like new items, we might encounter bugs yes but we can also find ways to fix this bugs getting more reports of the bugs encountered on doing those addons.

Helping each other on this section is much better since this section have a real active moderators and developers, just have a few information shared and having everyday post with help topics on something might be the way to find fixes :D

No, definitely not. If we give members information on how to use a debugger to override the client's security protocols / find out the xor keys / enable the test commands and other stuff we've been hiding from the public for so long. However this doesn't mean that you aren't allowed to post a thread with all the changes in a cabalmain.exe files you can still find on this forum, like adding maps or sigmetal useful stuff. As long as it's legal by our rules, who stops you from posting? "Release a full guide"? Why not you release a full guide and get all credits for it?

On the second idea I like it but it's a lot more complex than you think. TDP was planning on making a centralized bug reporting script where you can report your bugs straight from the game, however that project is atm on hold. A centralized thread that contains all the information about a single target like (SIGMETAL / New Skills) will not harm anyone, why not do it?

[-Jumong-]

My first idea is about after you have the cabalmain fresh what are the things to edit so it would be usable to your released package.

the second one is after i downloaded your release package and we want to add something would be nicer if there is a guide how to then what could be the possible bug and people could also give feedback about it so it wont be only you who will fix it.

But well its just my opinion as a user of cabal dev section coz i also have small server that i want to improve and i have lack of knowledge on the game so i think about those. Ignore it if its a bad idea.

[SheenBR]

EP3 Discussions were prohibited in order to control the flow of "offtopic/spam". If you look at the thread about one year old you will see what I mean. About 30 - 40 threads with "Help me, I want CA, SIGMETAL CRAP".. Basically those threads were not going anywhere so we had to take steps. All discussions about ep3 and other features are allowed as long as no begging, or useless posts will not be posted. Please understand us that we must enforce the board rules.

I understand. But I think that doesn't prohibit us, from TDP I mean, to look into it and try to bring it to ragezone. I think LostSpirit could do some good. I do not have too much knoledge in cabal files itself,as much as lost does.

[cypher]

I understand. But I think that doesn't prohibit us, from TDP I mean, to look into it and try to bring it to ragezone. I think LostSpirit could do some good. I do not have too much knoledge in cabal files itself,as much as lost does.

TDP is not above the rules. Also I've already told you that ep3 development discussions are allowed. EP3 begging threads / EP3 Requests are not allowed.

[SheenBR]

okay then, I misunderstood.

[chumpywumpy]

I think the cabal section just need a little more patience with newbies.

The blame for this can mostly be laid at my feet. Converting newbies to competent server admins has traditionally been my job as I have near unlimited patience when it comes to helping people learn new things. Anybody that was around a year ago will know why Cypher calls me a support robot and also will know that I have not been anywhere near as active over the past 9 months or so (sheesh that long). Some of the reasons will become clear soon.

Well, I guess this forum does need more guides and info to be shared ¬_¬.

Guides have always been one of our biggest problems as few people who can write guides actually like doing so. Given the choice of doing fun things and writing guides I usually pick fun things too and losing the wiki I started work on didn't help my motivation much. The guides are out of date for what we have now and if they were rewritten now they will be out of date again very soon. Chicken and egg. I really need to get some work done

[evildove]

I like this idea a lot, everyone that uses this forum should give back to it in what ever way we can. I am a leech that i know for sure i dont know how to write programs or anything like that i would love to learn how to do so but i dont have the resoreces. TDP has helped me before TDP existed ive followed all of chumpys guides and tride adding stuff from other guides and the entire thing crashed so i think that everyone needs to work together so us leaches can have something more uniform. i understand why servers with epi3 wont want to release the files because people dont have much loyalty to private servers because its easy to get items or what ever im sure if there was a cap on certain things then sharing the files would make everthing fair game for all. sorry if im off topic but i think this is a very good idea and i hope people with acess to infomation share it and write better guides. thank you to all the members of TDP for you help in the past and now.

[Ratko]

IMHO, there should be more stuff shared, mored people giving whatever they can to TDP/Cabal Section.
About those P.Servers with ep3(real one), the only 2 reasons that they dont want to share their files.
1. - They want to be unique
2. - Money

[cabalboy]

I want all your Ideas All the Moderators Subscribers all the Staff's here is very kind to us , We are learning to you staff.

Experience is the best teacher . thats why i try what i have to make a server but 1 1/2 years i cant make server because of more problems like disable commands and put gm buffs and everything hope you help me staff's i like what your doing

sorry may english is bad