I am not doing anything with the release that is currently 'out there' since I am working on a major update/addons, Sorry.
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I am not doing anything with the release that is currently 'out there' since I am working on a major update/addons, Sorry.
Um, ok so I installed Ubuntu on Oracle VM Virtualbox and everything, I can mount the server iso on my pc but I'm not sure how to mount it into Ubuntu to install it..... Can anyone help? I'm not really good with this sort of thing..... lol
I personally use VMware (so I wouldn't really be of any help), but I'm sure a google search would pull up some results :wink: Just google "mounting an ISO virtualbox", "mount ISO vbox" or something along those lines until you can produce satisfactory results :):Quote:
Originally Posted by MakaiKing0
Common now 343... This is Kyomizero/HeavenOnlyWishes.... Naturally I tried that already, no luck. There's surprisingly very little information on it. But I'll download VMware and try using it instead, if I have any trouble with it I'll let you know. Just out of curiousity, do you know if the finally made tools to edit the 1.4.4 or 1.4.5 files much like you can with the current 1.3.6 files yet?
Just out of curiosity what VMware are you using?
Sorry I've never used VBox, so I still wouldn't be able to help anyone on that one :(:
I personally use workstation (I actually purchased a "legitimate" copy I've been so pleased with VMware). Though you can use just the free VMware "player" (previously you could not create new VMs with it, hence it's name "player" - but they've since changed that [they actually changed it quite a while ago at this point], now VMware player can create new VM's too :D:)
I've worked on VBox with all of PW files, if you still haven't found out how to mount it or have any other problems/questions you can ask me. I will try to help you as much as I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakaiKing0
Note: On my 1st try I used VM but I failed miserably (though it was 2 years ago) but I failed... then tried out VBox and got further than with VM... but still failed XD after around 20 tries my monkey brain finally understood that it was poking the wrong thing...
Note2: Can't wait for the major release... My Christmas wish didn't come true :/
Sorry, that's exactly why I have not put a date on it, I don't wanna disappoint! Though I would like to think the wait will be well worth it :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by krikus62
Well by looking over this thread, the bar on the next release has been set very high. But I am 100% sure it will be legend...dary !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 343
Yea, I'm constantly raising the bar on myself =\
I am a perfectionist what can I say...
I was initially considering even making the package a .DEB (for real simple installation [and even removal] via dpkg), though bearing in mind many "real" servers (even many of my own 'commercial grade' servers) only have CD drives opposed to DVD ODD. So I've all but ruled out doing a .DEB (even though I know a debian package can be split this surely wont simplify things for those who know nothing of Linux)... So, to keep this package 'n00b' friendly I wouldn't look forward to it becoming a .DEB as was initially on the table... Though I would still count on it being even more simplex to install than it is now (the current 'release')... I think I will certainly be extending the simplicity of the installation, including making PW and all associated daemons 'services' so that they start when you power on the system (prior to even logging in)!
So yes, MUCH will be different! Though, as with a lot of my work, some of it may go unnoticed. It still wont be heavily geared toward security or being ran in a "production environment", but one of my main points of making this release (and making it so easy to get running) is to encourage people to want to dig into it to learn from it. (nothing like learning from something already working opposed to trying to learn how to fix or put something together that doesn't work before you can learn [put it this way, if you wanted to learn how to drive - would you rather jump in a car that already worked, and get to the learning how to drive part ; or would you want to first have to figure out how to get the engine in and the tires on before you could actually learn how to drive!?])... So while it will be great for installation simplicity, and as a good LAN party commodity, I still wouldn't necessarily recommend running it (as is anyways) in a "production environment"... Though if you know enough about network security (and linux, and the package) it wouldn't take much to get it up and running rather securely for a "production environment" anyway...
I do know (as stated some time previously) that, for the most part, I will be dropping support for x86 OS's. I don't plan on deleting anything that's already in there for the x86 support, but I plan on having the scripting set up entirely under the assumption that it's being installed on an x64 system. (anyone who really wants to run it on x86 will have to do so on their own time/accord)... IE: the installation script will automatically be installing ia32-libs (as one minor example), along with other x64 native 'programs'/'utilities'... I think this will also further simplify installation since there will no longer be a question of "which do I use, x86 or x64?". While some may think it's not nice to exclude x86, I may have agreed years and years ago. At this point though I would honestly have to say if your machine is not x64 'capable' ~ then it's time to upgrade (and if anyone thinks I'm a dick for saying that, then so be it; but seriously x64 is pretty much the 'norm' now anyway)...
So that is where the bulk of my focus is, is on the installation and the structure and whatnot. I've also (already) changed around the entire directory structure to accommodate other versions of PW (since I know 144 and 145 have since been publicly released)... Now 136 will reside in /PWServer/136/ instead of /PWServer/ - so if one wants to install say 144 or 145 they can add a /PWServer/144/ or /PWServer/145/! I will never release 144, I see no sense in doing so, if anything it's the "monkey in the middle" that everyone will pretty much forget sooner or later anyway. The hype would be at v136 and v145 (or 146 if it was publicly released)... I think 136 will always have a place in the community, if not for anything else, at the very least as a "learning tool" or "reference point"... I was thinking of doing a v145v63 "addon" for it, but since the recent public release of v145v69 I've already (quite literally) thrown that in the recycling bin <.< If I'm feeling nice enough I will toss out a v145v69 "addon" instead since I did DL the release to archive it and test for functionality (and any 'malicious' content)... Luckily I have already changed the structure for the future release, so if I do decide to do so it will just reside in /PWServer/145/. And although one would not be able to run v136 and v145 simultaneously (no matter how good of a machine you had) [because of port conflicts] - one WOULD be able to run both versions off of one machine, just not at the same time... Also seeing as probably almost nobody would have a machine actually capable of running 136 and 145 at the same time, I wouldn't bother running through all the configs to make it possible (even though I personally have a machine that would easily run both at the same time, even I wouldn't bother with that).
I will admit one of the biggest reasons it's taking so long is because PW has pretty much taken a back seat in my life. Since I finally quit playing official (actually finally un-installed the client about 6 mos ago), other factors are contributing to it as well. Work has picked up for me, and quite honestly my "real" work (which earns me a PAYCHECK) comes before my 'hobbies' :lol: Not to mention I've become quite the fanboy of a different (new) game... So don't fret, the release/update will eventually come, and it's bound to be quite a difference and improvement over the current downloadable release... Though at the same time I'm hoping you (and others) aren't expecting too many (if any) actual "in game" changes. I don't know if there will really be any significant ones in that department TBH. I don't think there's a whole lot that can be done "in game" besides customizations... Which is the other initial reason I made the release, just like I did (ie having several maps that are empty [like z9]) so that each individual that downloaded it could create their own customizations for it :):
I know it's already simple enough to install that I've been able to teach my pet monkey how to do it, and he's successfully done it a few times now :lol: but I plan on making it even a tad easier. No matter what though, the installing user will still have to be capable of mounting the first CD at the very least (if I get everything set up the way I want to) as Linux doesn't "auto mount" an optical disc when you insert it... Then again, I suppose, if someone cannot even figure out how to mount a disc, they probably really need to turn around and not look back <.< Because there's nothing I can do to further simplify mounting the installation disc in linux!
Either way, I'm also glad that there are still at least a few people who look forward to my release/update :): (I know so many people are 'hyping' over 145/146 they've all but forgotten v136 :(:) Luckily it's apparent in the numbers too, I lost count of how many thousands of people have downloaded the server (especially since it was initially hosted on MU [which has ofc been shut down]), so I couldn't really get an accurate count right now if I wanted to. Though it also speaks volumes to me that in the light of all this 145/146 'craze' this thread is still pretty 'hoppin' for a 136 thread, with "151,023:Views & 2,843:Replies" at this time :D:
So hopefully it will live up to your expectations (and others as well), surely it isn't going to be released until it's up to MY expectations :wink: :D:
After this (possibly last) update, I hope I earn enough EXP to equip my epic purple shirt :D::wink:
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What I am actually excited about is that I might see something new on the whole server system, and as you stated it it will be bit different, also I am looking forward to the addon. It's more the curiosity thank anything else. Because from an EPIC person like you, I think we all are expecting something interesting.
You mentioned "in game" editing. I think that you are totally correct and it would be better for anyone if the server files are clear without custom content, that way we can learn how to add it on our own, on the v136 there are already few tideborn things for example daggers, which are very nice custom items.
I am sure you will do a good job with the release.
Note: Was shocked by the huge reply, but I showed the respect and read it all.
I used to love waiting for your releases 343 and in some ways still do because I like to look in them and see what you have done, mostly so I can add those new changes to my server :thumbup: I remember saying in this thread a long time ago that I was going to use your files and make it so my server had it's own unique style to it and was unrecognizable even by you 343. I think I have achieved that after lots of time spent working on it trying to make it unique in it's own way.
It's a shame you have given up on PW but I'll definately be checking out your last release once it arrives. Maybe there is something new to learn from it, that's always an exciting part of things I find :D
343 you know I'm always a fan, and if there's anything I can do to help let me know. Was definitely surprised at the long response but much like krikus, read the whole thing. Looks interesting. Thank you for switching to x64 btw.... I haven't had a x86 system or os since.... high school.... lol. I am rather curious at this 'new' gaming passion you have... care to share?
Oh and thanks krikus, once I get around to working with it if I have any troubles I'll let you know.
I mainly find it sad that 343 has decided to quit PW, since it's a great game, the best MMO I have ever dealt with. It is just mishandled by wanmei :)
Well, in general, want to clean the server, as the old and no new locations, items, quests...