I will be getting in touch with you... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
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I will be getting in touch with you... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
Sounds great:):)
:?: Hi!
I am..incredibly terrible at this stuff, but I thought that I would try it >.<
Sadly, I'm stuck at one of the most basic steps :X..
Here's my problem :(::
So, I installed ubuntu successfully on my old windows XP. (12.04 LTS, and 32 bit I believe..)
That worked out.
After that, I got into the root user thing on terminal using thatthing. It worked.Code:su -
Next, with the mounting step, I didn't want to burn a new disk with server_root.iso (do I have to? :X..really don't want to...>.<) so I googled online for how to do it with just an iso file, and mounted it with a command like this I believe:
Not sure if this is the exact one, seems similar though to what I used (what I used is at a bookmark, at home..>> on the old laptop running ubuntu).Code:mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/meowmeow/Downloads/server_root.iso /media/cdrom
Anyways, it worked, and it mounted under Media, but it was read-only.
Then I did:
-this worked, I think, and I got into the commands for the mounted iso file..Code:cd /media/cdrom
Then:
(I tried to copy it all to the root, like you said).Code:cp -R * root/
However, it was read-only and not writable, and I couldn't do so :<
I tried some things I found after googling (how to make it writable): "chmod", "sudo mount -o remount,rw 'media/cdrom' "(may have put an extra space in it so I will try it again when I get home I guess..>.>), and such.
However, it stayed read-only..
So, I guess my questions are, what did I do wrong? And, how do I make it writable/what do I have to do to actually get it done right?
:(: Sorry, total noob at this stuff. :?::?::?:
Waiting for a reply, and tyvm.:):
First of all......
the only sudo command that yu will ever need in pw deving is "sudo passwd root"
after that logout and login as ur root user.....
mount ur iso...whatever way u choose then do
"mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point"
(replace with your location)
I belive it may solve ur issue....also if u want to connect with winscp u need to do
"apt-get install openssh-server"
Hope this helps if not maby some 1 with more knowledge can help
Yeah, I knew I screwed up somewhere..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
*sigh :X
As for logging out and logging in as root, guess I'l go google that.
Ah, and thx a lot for reply :D
One last thing:
after sudo psswd root, how would you log out and login again? Googled it, found this:Spoiler:Is this the right type of thing, or the wrong type of thing? (How Can I Log In As root User?) is the link where I found it at..I'l continue browsing at home and trying ><
as far as logging out goes just type "logout" without the quotes....
and after that fget the su commands as u will not need them as a root user
To make root account:
sudo passwd root
........
after done type logout
log in as your new root user
Note : even though it mounts as read only you will still be able to cp the files i belive gimme 10 min nd i will verfy.
Edit:..srry it took so long but yes you can use the cp command even though it is read only...
Note: after running said command the console does not do anything untill it is finished.....it can take a while depending on ur server machine....
Thanks a ton :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
Since I'm a noob at this, I'm just gonna ask something.
after typing logout, how do you log in? is it going to be there as a choice?
..yes, I'm an idiot at this.
Edit:gonna google it first
Edit again: Tried to do it, since I already HAD sudo passwd root..but, I did this, and this is what I tried and got (oh yeah, decided to name the ubuntu MeowMeow. XD):
sudo passwd root
sudo: unable to resolve host MeowMeow
password for meowmeow: "password entered"
Enter new UNIX password: "password entered"
Retype new UNIX password: "password entered again"
passwd: password updated successfully
So now what? :X
I tried "logging out", manually, as in going back to choose the account, but all I had for options were:
MeowMeow (my original one), and "Guest".
:S
Erm..new at this..yeah, so would really appreciate an answer, and very thankful for the replies already :O
tyvm!
did you install a desktop version of ubuntu?
Yup. Is that bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
Should I reinstall it, a different version?>.< ( I installed the 32 bit, Ubuntu desktop version, 12.04..
If I have to remove it, how do I do it? ;-;...)
If not, what should I do about it?
Tyvm for replies once more :D
You would want, uhm, server edition to run a server <.<
Erm.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 343
Woops.
Shows that I'm new at this D:
Anyways, how would I get rid of the desktop version, then?
DO I need to get rid of it, or can I just install the server version on top of that?
:X
If its a VM just delete and remake if its a actual pc ur gonna have to dl server version burn the iso and then boot from cd/dvd drive and during the setup it will get rid or ur desktop edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
Well, I hope you answer soon: Right now, I tried installing the server version..on..yet another pc. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
There's a bunch of choices, should I choose Open SSH or DNS or LAMP or MAIL or Virtual machine host or manual package selection or postgressql database or print server or samba file server or tomcat java server..
>.< Setting it up, i guess il go with open ssh if no reply D:
Uhm, you'll need openssh anyhow...
Kay......so, I chose that and finished installation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoosh91
Upon reboot, and succesfully logging in, it gives me a black screen, command prompt etc..
is that what I should get? what do i do from there? >.<
ty btw.
Also, how would I mount the server from an ISO? Do I have to use a disc? (did I need to download ISO previously, if so, where do I put it?) :S
I would like to make a random appearance on this thread as I am in need of help, if someone could please help me. I installed it, got to the point of getting it to where I could run the ./start.sh to start the pwAdmin. Well everything starts within that process but when i try to connect to it i get 503 connection error. I changed the ips in the 3 files said to the one of the machine(going from localhost to 10.0.2.15). This is all done on 12.04 lts server :X... sorry ebil i cannot answer your question
Can I just ask you something? o.oQuote:
Originally Posted by ravenjolly
How did you install yours? (disk, or from iso)..and if it was from the iso, how? I have another disk, don't wanna use it though..and did you burn server_root.iso onto the disk or what? :S >> would be thankful for a reply
-Ebil
Did you have net access on that machine? if its a VM make sure its not set to host only......nd by local ip they men the ip of the vm/pc its running on.......type "ifconfig" and it will give u ur ip......... (the only place you need to put your Wan IP is where it asks for it...I forget the exact file)Quote:
Originally Posted by ravenjolly
When I use a vm i mount the isoQuote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom
cd /cdrom
cp -R * /
......when I switched to actual machine I burnt the iso and then mount the drive using
mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
cd /media/cdrom
cp -R * /
Note:the console will not do anything while copying this can range anywhere from 2 min to 30 min depending on your pc.
I do have access to internet on the virtual machine. I tried with host only(haha), and also with nat. I tried the ip i got with the "ifconfig"command in the machine, no dice 503 error, and i tried with the hosts ip as well and it had given me the same error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
@ebil, he pretty much answered you, but i mounted the iso with damien tools since virtual box wouldn't mount the iso normally. In which case mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom is the code i used, the copy command being the same. It will say block device is read only but its still mounted, and can be found at /mnt/cdrom.
The iso file that you vm is refusing to mount is corrupt the is what may be causing your issue......I uploaded a new 1 a cpl pages back try it maby itll work...Quote:
@ebil, he pretty much answered you, but i mounted the iso with damien tools since virtual box wouldn't mount the iso normally. In which case mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom is the code i used, the copy command being the same. It will say block device is read only but its still mounted, and can be found at /mnt/cdrom.
I had the same issue a week or so ago
..vm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
Virtual machine? Do you mean something like virtual box?
(If so, I gave up..I left the disk in and burned it yesterday). ;-;
Also, this is probably premature for me to ask, but what does one do with the client files? What I downloaded was the server_root.iso in a zip file, the first client file was an iso in a zip, the 2nd and 3rd were bin files, and there was the..admin thingie.
What does one do with the client files to actually make the game work?
(Note, I know I should be doing this after I finish, but..whatever.)
Tyvm to all replies to my questions :D
yes vm=virtual machine......and as far as client files go u download the client located on first page in this thread....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
as for setting up the server look for the video tutorial on first page.......or the step b step walkthrough thats posted there as well.
Not at client step yet, but I'l continue setting the stuff up at home when I get there..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
So, I downloaded the right files, right? But how would I use them?..The tut-already watched, and I'l be using it to install the server.
However, I'm just asking ahead of time, but what do you use the client files for? How would you use the 'bin' files and the 'iso' to make the game run?..
extract the client iso with winrar to get the full client or mount it on virtual drive and copy it to ur pcQuote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
Ebil, my 2 cents are the following : Learn a bit basics, and then come back.
I havent been around long but I do have to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoosh91
Sure, tell me what the basics are. ;-;Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoosh91
I'm only actually trying this to experiment :S...
And I'm sorry if I'm annoying you with annoying questions that could be answered easily.
So please, tell me, the "basics"..what do you mean, more specifically?..
About linux? About..what?
Well it is annoying because everything and by everything i mean http://www.artlyst.com/img/events/342.jpg and people are too lazy to search.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
Including animals, foods, grains, recreational sports, and other stuff? That has nothing to do with this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacknife
Could you possibly, possibly, include a category at least?..
Because I'm not just going to run off and learn "everything".
Oh yes. I did google parts of it...and I asked, because I've searched it up.
I don't mean to be rude, and I'm sorry if this appears this way..
However, I just want to ask for a bit of help. And if you tell me to go learn something, I'l probably go search it up and try over the summer. However, "everything" isn't very helpful...
Nobody actually knows everything, so...a bit more specific?:O:
learn to use the search button in the forums here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
all of ur questions have been anwsered at least once
I actually did try it a few times...:vollkommenauf::vollkommenauf:... >.<Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
They were perfectly fine questions tho IMO..and I even browsed through...a ton of pages..;-;
I have another question, if anyone would be kind enough to answer me..
I used the video, and I followed all the instructions. However, after typing in, "nano /etc/hosts", ALL of them have the IP of 127.0.0.1
Is this a problem?
I also can't figure out how to open the website on the ubuntu server..I'm pretty sure that I followed the entire server guide, on youtube, with the only difference being that I didn't install the thing you have to if it is 64 bit (used the 32 bit server).
Would be thankful for a reply,
And tyvm.
:?:
Are you here to learn wikipedia or to learn about pw?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
You didn't searched good enough , try bettter
Thats the funny thing, it does it with a lot of the isos I tried to use haha. It extracted without error on 2 different machines as well. Just virtual box being weird on my end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Lutz
Client-server architecture; Basic file format knowledge; Absolute linux basics... to name three.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebil
Thank you, for something that I can actually search up. ;-;Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoosh91
Well, I`l start working on it in the summer, I guess..
To cover the whole VM network thing. You want to use 'bridged' mode (w/ replicate physical connection selected). That way it will be more like the VM is a physically separated machine (it will get/need it's own IP address different than your host OS)... You don't wanna use NAT, because then the HOST OS and the guest OS (the VM) 'share' the same exact IP, you don't want host only because then the 'network' will only be between the host and guest OS's.
Any idea how i can fix this? It won't show my Server IP anymore and my server seems somehow offline.
Edit: Tiny pic sux.
http://i44.tinypic.com/faogvr.png
my server still offline... all ip changed and started all the servers.and i cant access to pwAdmin,error : connection attempt to 192.168.56.101 was rejected.server ip is 192.168.56.101
It looks to me like it's using IPv6 and not IPv4 (my guess is also that you want it configured to use IPv4) ... IDK for sure...Quote:
Originally Posted by shaze
Sounds like it may be a [simple] networking problem. Did it say rejected, or timed out?Quote:
Originally Posted by mubah
it says rejected...Quote:
Originally Posted by 343
Any idea how i can set it to ip4? Since i havent touched anything o.OQuote:
Originally Posted by 343
Look at your interfaces file in /etc/network/
So far a big THANKs 343! You are great.
hMM...Quote:
Originally Posted by mubah
Hit da like button... ... ...Quote:
Originally Posted by shaze
Sorry, but blame RageZone for the constant Auto-logoff ;D. I just smacked tha like button many times for you ;D
Could you just explain me how to edit the element.data and all the other files? Since those devstuff says that they are outdated to edit the server files and such ._.
tools > https://code.google.com/p/pw-tools/Quote:
Originally Posted by shaze
wiki > https://code.google.com/p/pw-tools/w/list?tm=6
how do i get it > http://forum.ragezone.com/f751/ronny-s-tools-848042/
Thanks a bunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by fgru
Hey guys.
I used this thread to make my server and I got a little problem while installing it which I hope you might want to help me with.
I followed the video until the time[11:30] and every thing was going well until I tried to open the pwadmin and it didn't work.
so here is what it shows Attachment 134473Attachment 134474Attachment 134475.
I would really like any help or suggections.
Thanks in advance.
Please help, which did I made it wrong?
Attachment 134641
Attachment 134642
Attachment 134643
Attachment 134644
Attachment 134645
IP address : 192.168.1.51
Wan IP 175.145.XX.XXX
Network mode :- Bridge (Replicate physical network)
But still, unable to connect through pwadmin.
lol iu really dont get it confuseing i wish was video like that 1.4.5 vbox one
ubunto version is corrupt got the newest now though it says am trying to figure out how to get files from windows into vmware so I can begin the install. any help?
this are basics ... learn first ... then try ssh gui ...Quote:
how to get files from windows into vmware so I can begin the install
really every one saying to use thing but dont even work.
it all works fine I was just being noob retarded at first :) to transfer files just login as "root" for your username from winscp.Quote:
Originally Posted by joshhodges06
I apologize if I should create a new thread for this but I just wanted to take the time to give thanks to the following:
Spoiler:
and anyone else deserving of credit involved in making 1.3.6 possible including people who hosted files and people performing testing.
I want thank the above users for any post they made which was useful or helpful to me personally in my own struggle.
All the relevant posts were liked accordingly, posts that helped, posts I strongly agreed with or posts that I thought were hilarious.
Massive thanks to 343 for this release and the personal time invested to make 1.3.6 so epic, things that can and cannot be so easily noticed as well as the endless support that has been provided to so many users. Also 1.3.6 is my home; it won't ever be forgotten no matter what shiny new shit comes out.
Thank you to those who helped others and shared your knowledge but also shared with a good attitude.
Lastly thanks to the type of newbs who invested the time to read and figure out most things on his or her own and demonstrated some real effort when genuinely stuck by including what was attempted or tested, what was located in the forums using search and any screenshots relevant to the problem (some of which I also learned from) and the solution to that problem if you found one.
Thank you for really trying, testing and providing good information and a solution which I believe builds RaGEZONE, instead of being lazy and nagging the shit out of the community and wasting people's time and website resources about page 1 information that isn't even nested.
Thanks again to the PWI and forum greats around here, much appreciation, humbleness and great respect.
Regards.
well can some one help me do u use 7z cuz dont work on the cilents <.<
Did you verify the checksum's ?Quote:
Originally Posted by joshhodges06
so i download the ones at bottom trying get this server done early :P
dev says file broken and client 1 some error i ddent try 2 mind helping?
First download all of the necessary files then verify the checksums are valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by joshhodges06
Spoiler:
Next, after you verify all the files are good, extract the archives then verify the ISO files are also good.
Then you can proceed to the next steps.
If the checksum for the archive is not good then you need to download the file again, nothing is wrong with these files.
If you get an error message while doing something after you have verified your files are good, provide a screenshot or the exact error message along with what you were doing when it came up.
If you just say "there was some error message" I have to say "fix it" because I cannot be any more helpful with the information that you provided, I don't know what you did, how you did it or what the error message was. :D:
Edit:
Oh right, the method above is not the easiest or fastest way to verify the files, its just one easy way to demonstrate.
hey 343, any chance of making another version of this release so that it doesn't have the Tideborn and Earthguard lands? having the gears, mounts, and flyers from 1.4.2 and higher versions are fine but just not the lands. for some reason, after messing with 1.4.4 and 1.4.5 servers for a while now, i'm wanting to return to the beginning, of sort. where there is just the original 3 races with the 6 classes and the original map where Tideborn and Earthguard lands don't exist. personally, i've never like the Tideborn and Earthguard lands so if i'm going back to the beginning, i don't want those lands to exist.
thx but got any relese for 1.4.4 so i could updateQuote:
Originally Posted by TheLastAnnon
No I don't sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by joshhodges06
Yea, just edit the game client EXE to block movement in these these areas. I left those areas in there for anyone who wanted to add custom content to and for these areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by npcGHOST
im having some problems setting up my own private PW server anyway i can get some help? i was going to download the links above but a GM told me to watch the video and i am lost on what to do
343 please may i get some help with this
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcorobert
What kind of problems? What have you tried? Where are you in the process?
Have you downloaded all of the necessary files listed on page 1 and then verified they are good?Quote:
Originally Posted by tcorobert
http://forum.ragezone.com/f694/compl...ml#post7709989
I think most users are willing to give you a nudge or a hint pointing you in the right direction but in order for anyone to do that they are going to need a lot more information.
All of the instructions are on page 1 if you do not know what to do I recommend reading the instructions on page one in addition to all the posts in this thread. Many questions are answered already and I believe there is at least one other guide posted in this very thread listing how to get things working step by step in addition to a few videos on basic computer networking.
If you don't know much about computer networking:
http://forum.ragezone.com/f694/compl...ml#post7266282
Read some stuff, watch some stuff and try some stuff. Report back when you have read everything, you have tried various things and you have information about what is not working properly.
anyone can help me get this started please and thank you
for some reason it still wont work please can someone help me?
i downloaded everything and i am lost idk what to do can someone help me with teamviewer or skype or something
what are you having problems with?
Yes, you need to be MUCH more specific...
All client links are broken now. Can someone pls re upload this? Many thanks.
They appear to be working just fine... I don't think anyone would bother re-uploading (not even myself) as there is a MAJOR update to this package pending...Quote:
Originally Posted by tmh
Sorry all, I'm wrong. May be it't my network problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by 343
hello, which version of ubuntu should I use, I have windows xp and another thing that vercion perfect world contains no hyper activations and hypers how I can do to agrergarles those options? exsactamente would you say I like is called the hypers file and where I can find it; example I have the game but in another vercion can tell me the address of the file to modify activation have hypers? and if anyone has any post related to teach me how to use the tool pw I would greatly appreciate.:thumbup::thumbup:
hey I got a question I can run pwadmin start the server and anything..but how to play the game??I know its stupid but how?:love:
if I restart my pc or vm the ipv4 will change rite..and then do I need to redit the 3 important files or have any command that can make the ipv4 will not changing when restarting the pc or vm??:grr:
-Use Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTSQuote:
Originally Posted by elinbasol35
-Wrong version... No hypers here...
-You do NOT want to use a dynamic IP on (ANY) servers, ever...Quote:
Originally Posted by waganer25
-You DO want to use a static IP on servers...
i want to upload my files using winscp to my server but when i try to connect it says Network error:Connection refused...is it to change my ip in /etc/network/interfaces ?
I recommend installing/copying physically (provided you have physical access to the machine) IE: CD/DVD/USB Drive etc... ... ...
If you can avoid it, do NOT use WinSCP (or anything similar)...
you mean edit the server_root.iso and follow your step in the first post??
no need to edit, either burn it or mount it as a disc.
ok now I give example if I edit files name isgm.data and I put in usb(if can or can) or mount it as a disc in VMware and copy the isgm.data and replace in the server?that what mean?
I just wanted to stop back in this thread to reassure everyone that I am still releasing an update to this package. It will be a MAJOR one too. Though it is certainly no longer top priority in my life, so it's been taking longer than I thought and had planned on. It may still take quite a while longer, though I will surely get it out as soon as feasibly possible.
Well, at this particular moment in time I am very glad I didn't rush the release out because I just found a MAJOR flaw, that actually went undetected in a recent beta test I had... So now I will begin working on it again while what I found is fresh in my head. As to any estimate of release, I would still prefer to not give any dates publicly. There is absolutely no guarantee I will have it ready by any specific date, seeing as PW is no longer a high, hell it's not even a moderate priority -- in my life any longer...
Just be sure of one thing, when the new release does finally drop, you WILL want to check it out!!!
I will need 1 or 2 people (or so) with blazing fast connections to volunteer for initial seeding when it is ready (yes I'm going torrent this time around too so I don't have to split shit!)... The fastest connections (uplink) will be considered...
Thank you for the update about the next release. Due to some unfortunate illnesses I have a lot more free time at home than the average person. I am available and more than willing to help if at some point you decide to host a server strictly for testing purposes or anything similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by 343
Hi I wonder if you have an image that I can provide to prove something, I mean just to mount a virtual amquina greatly appreciate you, thanks before hand or if someone has a imangen that I can help many thanks.:thumbup:
hello can you are a server owner? if so pass me the name I would like to play as your work encata me what you do with the serversQuote:
Originally Posted by 343
You can use this any way you like, whether it be on a physical machine or in a VM...
No, I do not run any PW servers myself...
Good luck with it, sorry i can't help for testing because my connections :SQuote:
Originally Posted by 343
hi i want to ask them for help, it would be possible to get me a link to how to create a server vercion 1.4.6 although I'm on the forum that it is but I see no activities very active aki please vercion is q I have that game and may want to create a vercion 1.4.6 just need the root server since I have the client and also wanted saver if so same as you put the server root 1.4.6 1.3.6 I can put that is easy to form and thank you before hand .
146 sucks, and it's already available in the 144+ section (so if you want it you'll have to look there)...
better try 1.3.6 first.if you want to learn more.. if not just skip it.Quote:
Originally Posted by elinbasol35
Hi
I would like to say thank you to 343, this was my first time trying a PW server and got it running in 5 days made allot of mistakes and had to reinstall allot .
Im having fun playing around with the server and trying to get gear edited.
Im having 1 problem now where the map serivces doesent want to startup, but il fidle with it for abit and maybe just reinstall if i cant get it started again.
Thanks again for the release and looking foward to the your next release.
the gs? coulda messed up your gshop.data if something is at 0 for a price or stacked to high then its set to the gs will not run. Or Elements whatever u last edited.Quote:
Originally Posted by LourensB
I mest up the elements.data but fixed now thanks.
I wanted to say that I have had this server running for about a year and a half and I love it, 343 you did an awesome job putting this all together I look forward to see what you are going to do with the update. In short 343 you are the man!!!
Thank you. Working a little bit on the update today...
I have to admit it. This is my all time favorite version of PW.
Nobody does a better release for this version than 343.
God bless '343' :thumbup:
343 if you don't mind me asking, I'm curious what game you are playing now?
That's no secret, I've answered it on here before -- Guild Wars II
GWII has got to be the BEST MMO made EVAH (to date)...
Yea I bought GW2, and I love it. I had a thought about attempting to make a server that might have similar things, for example random events, but it would take way too much time, and I am not that good at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 343
Also adding my speedtest. I would be honored to help you seed it.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2967013879.png
Thank you, I will surely be in touch -- I would KILL for a connection that nice! No, I take that back - I would HURT or inflict pain for a connection that nice! I would KILL for a connection (I wish I lived) in Kansas City where they've deployed google fiber for $70/mo with 1,000 Mbit/s up AND down links (1 Gbit/s--gigabit up AND down!)!!!!!!!!!! Sadly, like most of the US (that I know of) residential internet is still under a HUGE monopoly of the tel, and cable co's -- so you get DSL (VDSL) or cable, which I think the current bests for my area are 45 Mbit/s down & 6 Mbit/s up, or 105 Mbit/s down & 6 Mbit/s up respectively. So either way I'm fucked because it doesn't matter whether I chose one or the other in terms of uplinks :(:
MAN, I cannot wait until I can have FTTP/FTTH with no less than 1 Gbit/s up AND down links /drool
As I understand your next release will be (I hope) still 1.3.6 version right?Quote:
Originally Posted by 343
If so, then my guess would be that it will contain alot of skins maps etc. from 1.4.X versions?
Because I would really like that.
ofc, this is the v136- section after all :wink:
