Well, sorry, was getting impatient as I was literally sitting here needing to know the results before I can continue my workOriginally Posted by Psytrac
Well, sorry, was getting impatient as I was literally sitting here needing to know the results before I can continue my work
silly me, I sleep sometimes lolWell, sorry, was getting impatient as I was literally sitting here needing to know the results before I can continue my work
The more, the better.. more test, better results
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I know that lotta people prefer VMware, but VMware is heavy on the host hardware and resources. .. I use vbox as it does better for non gui setups... I recently setup on Debian 10 headless, with mariadb, php7, Java11 with no segment faults... Even got pwadmin (portable) working...
Have you tried wine on ubuntu + pw client? Maybe that should solve the problem regarding clients for a lifetime. When it comes to servers I am using RHEL centos. Ubuntu has proven it is drawback with all unnecessary packages and installed services which would exhaust machine resources. Anyone by today's standards can go and create their custom distro version of any linux. I guess that should solve as the problem for compatibility for server files side as well.Let me preface by saying: I think I "get" what you're saying, I think...
But I've been between a rock and a hard spot with the "requirements" of this package all along because it's not even meant for Windows anything in the first place; well the client is of course, but the server is NOT... The server is MEANT to be installed on ACTUAL linux, not a VM... BUT I also know, or maybe just assume? That most people downloading this will not have a spare machine (let alone an actual server machine) to run it on, and are most likely downloading it to "play around" (AKA "mess around")... Maybe even made a server that their family/friends will play on; but will likely never run a server that will see numbers in the thousands..!
All that being said, the ONLY reason this package "requires" a specific OS: Ubuntu 12.04.3 x64 - is because of the offline install it does of IA32-LIBS..! I do want the "base package" to have absolutely ZERO external dependencies - ergo, can be installed with absolutely no interwebs connection whatsoever
That being said I often say "requires" specifically in quotes because obviously anyone with enough experience will know how to make it work with ANY OS of their choice... While the default installer I've made does "require" what it requires, there are plenty of ways around this - some I've even built in (for those who care to look)! So, could you take this and manually install it on Ubuntu 20.x, sure... Could you take it and install it on CentOS, or RH, or FC, - I'm almost sure of it... If you want to, and (actually) know what you're doing...
I'm thinking that will not be most people that download this...
At one point I thought about going down the path of making it a "real" .DEB; but then I urged myself against that because I figured why limit it to DEBIAN based distros!? For the same reason I wouldn't have considered making it an .RPM either...!
But for the most basic of use (and users) I have to "require" what I have to "require" in order to facilitate an installation which is 100% "self sufficient"! That, as long as you have the "required" OS (ISO) and this package (ISOs) and a PC, you can and will succeed at getting it installed. Even if the interwebs blew up tomorrow and ceased to exist, or if you were on an island with a laptop and a solar generator ROFL... Or whatever scenario you could dream up (that's never even going to happen in the first place)... But, point being = it has NO/ZERO external dependencies
So, back to point - I think LOL; sure, Ubuntu x64 12.04.3 would continue to "do the job" if actually installing it on a physical machine (like a server)! Which is what this SHOULD be, but I also DO have to "cater" (to some degree) to those which I know will not "do things 'right'" whether by choice, or limitation...
So I do suppose for the actual longevity moving forward; I can supply Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64, this package, and at some point I may find myself having to add an ISO for Win7 / Win10 for the client, and for those who actually WANT (again, for whatever reason, choice or hardware/financial limitation) to also run the Server in a VM with a Win host...
So, IDK if that all even made any sense, but I know what I'm thinking LOL I guess to TL;DR would be; yes, there's NO reason for "compatibility" between Win and Linux (and VMs)... BUT; I also know/figure that is how MOST people that DL this are actually gonna use it! So while I cannot assure 100% compatibility - I will still do my best to make sure my package/release is as versatile as humanly possible..!
So here is how you keep it simple and straight:
1) Create linux with wine to support PW clients.
2) Create Custom distro with required IA32-Libs and create bootable ISO image using ubuntu base you adore most with the features you find compatible.
With that you can maintain your release package for a lifetime.
Refer to the following links to have an idea of what I am talking about:
Wine + PW
Custom distro initiative
Custom Image distro
The game clients run with zero configuration with Lutris + lutris-6.4-x86_64 wine. If you get an X11 error message for "not enough resources" just toggle the "Use discrete graphics" switch. The WineDB info is largely outdated, not to mention that the current wine versions natively implement almost everything dx9+ has to offer. I'm running the server in a XCP-NG vm and it's working great.
@343, thanks for the package and the instructions.
Are you using 343´s March files?
I understood that those are not up to date, but im not sure.
Im waiting him to make his new uploads available instead of fight with the ubuntu/server hehe
Using the 18'th of March files listed in the 1st post. The major mistake on my first attempt at installing was updating Ubuntu. Just leave it as it is and configure the firewall to make sure nothing but required ports are open (game server + ssh + web). The ports are listed in the documentation on the dev_iso. As soon as the new package is up I'll see if I can provide a working XCP-NG image, probably .OVA with 4 cores and 32 GB of ram. I'm positive 16 GB is enough for all maps, however I have more than enough on my server to spare, so I went ahead with it. I also had some issues with the soft restart of the server - seems either the game server or Ubuntu have issues stopping and restarting services and the ram pool gets filled up and not emptied properly and I have to force reboot. Haven't had the time to investigate, but in all honesty I hate Ubuntu and can't force myself to deal with this for now.
Just to reiterate; the ONLY ports that "NEED" to be open to the WAN are:
29000 ~ for the game (client/server communication)
80 ~~ for the "web" (so users can register / forum etc)
8080 ~~ if you want "Account Services" available to users (GetGold / GetItem / Guild Icon) {and don't worry pwAdmin is BLOCKED to the WAN}
That's it -- EVERY other port should NOT be open to the WAN (they're basically ONLY for INTERNAL use [like MySQL/DB, SSH etc])
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If for ANY reason you "need" (or THINK you need) MySQL or SSH open to the public WAN, that's on YOU to PROPERLY configure and SECURE !!!
My recommendation is simply to NOT (EVER) have MySQL or SSH open to the public WAN !!!
The "proper" way if you did need "remote access" would be to PROPERLY set up a VPN ~ but I am NOT getting in to that here..!
@343
The server is for my convenience only, thus the sshd. I am honestly afraid to run the server in the wild on my hardware and wan, considering I run my own DNS server and lately even this has become a target for marketing agencies, etc.
Oh by the way, the naming convention is going to stay the same - for the most part... Even though I'm still working on update(s) as we speak, it's ultimately "for" the 18.MAR.2021 update
Although this next time around the naming convention WILL be changing because I am dropping 12.04.3 and this will now "require" 12.04 (base 12.04.0)... So rather than being "pw-136-server_18.MAR.2021-ubuntu12.04.3_amd64.iso" it will be "pw-136-server_18.MAR.2021-ubuntu12.04_amd64.iso"
But yes, I normally can't be bothered to actually (also) always be changing the naming convention - even if it's only for the date; because that's all the much more "work" I have to do (in all the installers/scripts)..! So I normally avoid this, especially when say I'm only changing one or two of the packages... Because lets say I was making a change or update to ONLY the 136 part... Well if I changed the naming convention for one, now I have to do it for all; and that's just that much more work..! So I try to avoid it...!
Which is another MAJOR reason for the checksums... Even if one wasn't paying attention to what's going on in the thread, they'd know if they were "up to date" or not, by evaluating the checksums..!
That being said; I AM working on an update. We are "dropping" Ubuntu 12.04.3 ~ this package will soon be using 12.04 (12.04.0)..! 12.04.3 encounters a segmentation fault when people are trying to install it using a Win10 host and or using a VMware16 VM... So I am switching the "requirements" from 12.04.3 to 12.04 (12.04.0)..!
Not only that there's going to be a MAJOR "security issue" fixed that I really shall not discuss - only because for anyone that actually doesn't know about it yet, better they don't learn of it from ME..! (put it this way, it's something REALLY bad, and EVERYONE is going to want this next and hopefully last update) !!!!!!!
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but yes: TL;DR
Best way to know if you're actually "up to date" or not; is verify the checksums (don't rely on the naming convention/naming dates/times)
The current server side stuff is all "down" just an FYI
I was thinking about how I didn't pull the links already, and I really should have! Trust me when I say, there is something SEVERELY game / server BREAKING in the last couple versions that you are going to want to DELETE IT!
The new update isn't quite ready yet - I have to "build" it tonight and test, but I HAD to pull the links to the old one ASAP (seriously, the "thing" I fixed is THAT vital !!!)
I actually HIGHLY suggest you delete the "current" / "old" one, whether you do that now, or once the update becomes available, it's something you do NOT want continuing to float around..! It's BAD - THAT BAD..!
I have been, am, and will continue to work tirelessly on getting this newest update out to everyone..!
On the good notes, there will be a HUGE HUGE MAJOR thing "patched" in this upcoming update... It will also be compatible (once again) for those seeking to run it on Win10/VMware16... And remains "good" for vbox as well... It is (will be) now using Ubuntu 12.04 (12.04.0) Server x64... I also did a little "house cleaning" since I have to rebuild *everything*... While this will not mean much to most people who "tinker", for those who explore (in depth) and or actually "know" linux quite well - things are just a little more "tidy" now... (like cleaning up directories and making sure things are in a logical or semi logical location)...!
But seriously, back to the bad thing; Even if all you're doing is running a small little private test/mess around server - I still HIGHLY advise and even directly ask ~ that you DELETE the "current/old" release (again, whether you do it now or later once the update actually becomes available) because I do NOT want that old copy floating around... It NEEDS to die, along with the vulnerability it has...!!!!!!!!!!
I also discovered that, for whatever reason, my v146 Client was BORKED, so I have re-uploaded a WORKING v146 client
New SAE server ISO should be out within the next 24 - 48 hours if my testing of it goes successful
Will continue to keep you posted as much as I can (did have to spend a day or so away from home, which has massively slowed my progress [despite bringing my laptop with me])... But I want to run a quick test of my new build of the SAE server ISO before upping and linking, *especially* after I just found out my v146 client waas BORKED..!! So, once I am able to run a quick test on that I will get that UP and SHARED..!! And one last/more time I will warn *everyone* that - this server update fixes something MAJORLY and SEVERELY wrong with v155 - YOU WILL NEED to get this...!!!
But for now, all the clients are still here AND working (checked)! The new PW_DEV.iso is up, and of course in anticipation for the new SAE server ISO, I've linked Ubuntu 12.04.0 !!!
A new HTTrack mirror of pwdatabase.com will come AFTER the new server is up..!!
All Links Are Now !! LIVE !!
Make SURE to grab this new SAE server ISO, as, like I have stated before: it has a MASSIVE and CRITICAL update for v155..!
Another way (method) you will be able to know if you have the/this latest update will be the ISO disc image icons... A small "detail" previously overlooked, I decided to add (windbloz based) icons... So, if you don't have any "custom" icon when you mount (or physically burn) the ISO's then you ARE NOT up to date! If you see these following icons for the SAE server ISO, and PW_DEV ISO then you ARE up to date..! (the clients have always had icons since they're windows native)...
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The next things to hit the to-do list will be taking an up to date HTTrack of pwdatabase.com and a torrent (in that order)...!
amigo buenas noches yo tengo un problema al momento de llevar acabo la instalación, al parecer no se vincula mi direccion ip al momento de querer abrirla en el navegador no carga la paguina y segui las instrucciones del video, espero y me puedas ayudar
Friend, good night, I have a problem when I carry out the installation, apparently my IP address is not linked when I want to open it in the browser, it does not load the page and I followed the instructions in the video, I hope and you can help me
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El video es para instrucciones básicas, no puede seguir la parte de redes, debe hacer sus propios detalles de redes;)
The video is for basic instruction, you cannot follow the networking part, you have to do your own networking details ;)
http://forum.ragezone.com/f695/absol...6/#post6038760
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Además, ¡perdóname si mis traducciones son malas! En realidad no sé español, ¡uso el traductor de Google!
Also, pardon me if my translations are bad! I do not actually know Spanish, I use google translate!
Hi @343,
i just installed and everything went fine! Thank you so much.
Only question is about pwAdmin.
The "server configuration" tab doesn´t seems to open at all. I click and nothing happens.
It actually opened once and i checked the double drop but nothing happens.
Any thoughts?
Thank you
I actually heard someone else mention config tab not working, but I cannot replicate that - I have never had a problem with it...
As far as double drop working or not, I also am not sure... I've never really actually messed with it... I would presume though, if it's not working, it may be something much more in depth than pwAdmin itself (like gs itself maybe stopping it from working IDK)...
One way to know if it's "working" (or should be) would be at the login screen on the client, on the server select screen it will list any/all "bonuses" on the "server select" screen, IE: "10x EXP, 2x drops, double money"... If you don't see it in that spot, then it's surely not working... However if it shows there, and doesn't "seem" to be working, either it is, and it's so negligible you may not really be able to notice? Or it is indeed "broken" (and is probably something more in depth like gs itself)...
tendras algun tutorial para poder hacer que se enlace el servidor?
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[QUOTE = 343; 9077674] Amigo, buenas noches, tengo un problema cuando realizo la instalación, al parecer mi dirección IP no está vinculada cuando quiero abrirla en el navegador, no carga la página y seguí las instrucciones en el video, espero y me puedan ayudar
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El video es para instrucciones básicas, no puede seguir la parte de redes , debe hacer sus propios detalles de redes;)
El video es para instrucciones básicas, no puede seguir la parte de redes , debe hacer sus propios detalles de redes ;)
http://forum.ragezone.com/f695/absolute-basics- networking-tcp-ip-709746 / # post6038760
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Además, ¡perdóname si mis traducciones son malas! En realidad no sé español, ¡uso el traductor de Google!
Además, ¡perdóname si mis traducciones son malas! En realidad, no sé español, ¡uso el traductor de Google! [/ QUOTE]
tendras algun tutorial que me pueda solucionar ese problema?
Nothing show up on event info... I never touched the gs, not even sure what it does tbh.
Only thing i touched was some npc sell tasks.
i use google chrome (shouldn´t have something to do with this but, who knows). I'll try other browser.
No, I didn't mean that you would have done anything to the gs, just that it could be the culprit... There are other things that needed to be "fixed" in/on gs... A few examples are the GM monster spawner, on the 'default' leaked gs, the GM monster spawner doesn't work (unless the DANGEROUS debug mode is on), so I fixed that! Another one is that it didn't read 'rates' from ptemplate, I fixed that too. Another example is the "wallow fix" as well. There was also something VERY VERY and CRITICALLY DANGEROUS (vulnerability) in the gs that I "fixed" additionally..! However, gs "editing" is NOT for your 'average user'... gs is the server side binary that runs the maps... and the ONLY way to "edit" it is to "reverse engineer" it in something like IDA pro (or even IDA free)... and if that was/is the case, I surely am pretty sick and tired of having to "edit" or "fix" stuff in gs LOL, not to mention the update after update after update after update... I'm almost sure it has got to be equally as annoying for "users" to have to constantly download "updates"...! So that being said, even if it WAS (is) a "gs issue", it likely will not wind up "fixed"...at least not by me and/or not for this release/package
That being said, I do use FF btw, not GC, so maybe browser does have something to do with it - you'll have to let me know
All that being said, I do not think it's the gs anyway
So the problem may be pwAdmin/browser - LMK
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@343
The issue with the wpAdmin panel is happening when all the maps are loaded. If you make the changes before the maps are loaded the settings work as expected. The DB can crash if you play around with the buttons too much. I suspect tomcat, based on logs.
P.S. The webadmin is "funky", especially in modern browsers and tons of the js crap can be blocked locally by ad-blockers,etc.
P.S 2 - the maps cant be properly rebooted/stopped/started in the UI for 155 at least. I would assume it's the same for others, since i emulate generic hardware on my vm.
Last edited by neckfreak; 30-04-21 at 03:13 PM.
Just to be clear, i tryed with World map OFF first, then ON, and nothing changes.
Also on EDGE the same happens, ill try firefox today.
Thank you
If you want your custom settings to hold - start the *games server after the web server
A lot if not everything you've said makes complete sense..! I could see there being "problems" doing just about *anything* if you have ALL maps open - unless you actually have the 'resources' to "back it up"..! Especially for v155, to have ALL maps open, I haven't even accurately "measured" "what it should be", but I'd imagine to actually and effectively run all maps - I wouldn't probably want to do so on any less than 64GB; for a "realistic" environment..! Sure it "seems" possible on 32GB, and may be the absolute minimum "required" but I'm also almost sure it's quite taxing on the system/hardware/resources at this point..! I could also "see" tomcat "looking" like the culprit here, but I'd still think it'd boil down to (even if it was) tomcat "misbehaving" because it's out of system resources (IE RAM)...
I could also see just about any 'modern' browser being also problematic as a LOT of this stuff (like pwAdmin, and even the 'base' PHP) was written 10+ years ago! The same exact reason I have never, and would never, even think of let alone attempt "upgrading" XAMPP/lampp or any of it's individual components..! But, and so, I could totally see a 'modern' browser also being 'finicky' with this "ancient" "code"..! There's also not a CHANCE (in hell) of me or probably anyone else actually re-writing ALL this stuff, just to be compatible with newer LAMP stacks, or browsers..!
I did notice the maps don't seem to want to "stop" from pwAdmin, after you mentioned it; which I never honestly 'knew' until now, because I am either stopping the whole server (which works fine), or if I have any reason to close just ONE map, I always do it directly in the terminal... Honestly, at least to me, not a "big deal"..!
I wonder if that's not a part of the problem, you should not try with all maps OFF first; that alone may be why it never "took"... AFAIK the gs (and or other daemons) would have to be running for a "real time" change like this to occur..! Also, then turning maps on, it may have been "too late" because something (likely tomcat) could have been "hanging" due to trying to enact the changes on a non running daemon...
Explicit steps to try...:
- Turn off server [power] completely (or VM)
- Turn on server (or VM)
- XAMPP/tomcat/etc should all start on their own by default - as they're supposed to
- log into pwAdmin
- start server through pwAdmin (will start ONLY world map) (under services column)
- change "rates" on "config" pwAdmin page
- test!
If it's still not working, next time around, be sure to include as much information as you can about your setup
PS) I do also know that (sometimes) once tomcat is "causing issues" they may persist even across reboots. One way to resolve this is to remove the "work" directory for tomcat prior to shutting down or rebooting (make sure tomcat is off first)... If you wish to try removing "work" to possibly "help" with your issue follow below:
- stop tomcat (/opt/apache-tomcat-5.5.28/tomcat_stop.sh)
- remove the tomcat work directory (rm -R /opt/apache-tomcat-5.5.28/work/)
- now shutdown before completing steps outlined earlier in this post !
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