"popups" is not the right definition, it's rather windows. All windows in FlyFF can be managed with daisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay B
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"popups" is not the right definition, it's rather windows. All windows in FlyFF can be managed with daisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay B
No, I do not program in FORTRAN, I rather not go back to punch cards, but I am sure that I could understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tikkaroe
COBOL* is very easy.
All the programming languages have the same terminology in common, and after getting to know some of them, you can understand about 90% of em.
I agree to the hint because if he just gave a tutorial the reader never gains anything. But my doing research they gain more knowledge. Like they say games never get you anywhere. For me its a motivation to learn programming
look I'm just saying that I don't program in ASM, disassemble programs, reverse engineer or use hex other than reading packets and whatnot. I don't intend on learning the language either. But if I wanted to start learning it, it would be nice to say put this here and see what happens. I'm not looking for the Apple of Eden or anything.
So perhaps a little less vague that people other than 6 people on this section could better understand it.
I get what you are trying to do, I really do but it comes off as condescending a little bit. People look at this, and leave because they have no clue as to what they are reading. Those 6 or so people do and whilst I'm sure they are getting many laughs out of this, I don't see a point in putting this up. Not flaming, not ragging, or anything like that, but if you want to give hints: A.) a little less vague and 2.) More than one hint would suffice.
OH and for the record to this person who said this is Machine Code. You are very wrong.
Machine code is Binary and its the lowest form of coding out there. Ones and Zeros, Ons and Offs.
Asm is what you were trying to say there. Any basic programmer can knows this or should know it.
So it would honestly go like this:
Machine(Binary)
ASM
C
C++
.NET
the first on the list being the lowest and the last being the topmost. Now I know I didn't include programs like Pascal, Fortran, Cobolt, etc. but you get the idea. They are mainly around the C level anyway.
He chose to only help the people who understand. Would you rather no hint at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlaphanKing
Also, it's quite ignorant to "ignore" ASM considering it would help you understand how to improve your C++ and C# coding practices. It also has incredibly simple syntax, which is why it's lower level coding than most languages.
This is not entirely correct. Try managing WndWorld in daisy. However, it can edit most windows that use Flyff's "CWnd" implementation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Improved
The reason I don't use ASM or have any desire for it, is because the demand for such knowledge is almost non existent. None of the people I have consulted with in the past have needed or even wanted ASM coders. Many professors are abandoning the ASM language for one: not enough people want to learn and two: Its much more difficult to learn than Java or .NET making it almost as bad as learning C.
I can't stand ASM because of its stacked nature. I prefer the coding I have always done and its my preference. I may dabble in ASM in the future just to see what the hype is about but for now, I'll just stick to what I know. Its not ignorant to ignore ASM though. Its an entirely different language altogether. C++ and .NET make it much easier to understand and that's why all of us "old" coders have long since abandoned it. The only purpose it serves is reverse engineering, disassembly, and hacking in most people's opinions.
If you are good at using it, more power to you. If not, try and learn it but in doing so you need to forget all that you learn with higher level coding.
You could atleast say what this fixes, considering there's multiple bugs in Daisy.
@Lethal I wouldn't care either way if there was a hint or not, I have no idea what to do with it.
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I found a nice image representation
http://www.webopedia.com/FIG/PROG-LAN.gif
http://www.iu.hio.no/~mark/CTutorial/img/1.2.jpg
Anyway knowing things like assembly help out a lot with debugging, and finding problems with code when things like bad pointers show up somewhere like the kernel library...
I agree with this ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by kolelolx
I myself don't know a thing about assembly, but I'd honestly be more willing try and figure out this release if I knew what the final result would be.
Which is why I understand these threads. A little bit information about what it is and maybe post some tutorials about it. That way you aren't spoon-feeding, and a lot of people get the chance of getting into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowDragon42
OTHERWISE: everybody could just figure SOMETHING out for themselves, it isn't that hard to fix 0.0
What will this fix? Daisy is working fine for me without edits o.o
It fixes a lot of the crashes caused by invalid pointers given to some function. Basically fixes the retarded random crash that occurs every now and then.
o.o is that all? I don't think I've ever gotten that. I haven't used daisy very extensively though, mostly just to look at a few windows (haven't had the need to yet).Quote:
Originally Posted by KrYpT0n
Oh right, the annoying crash that always makes me rage.
It doesn't happen that much though.
Well, thanks for the hint then ^^
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