How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

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    The Dinosaur chumpywumpy is offline
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    How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    There is quite a lot of people asking for a droprate fix or adding mithril to later maps like Mutant Forest so here is something for you. I have included a modified file for Mutant Forest and i will explain what i have done so you can fix or modify other files for yourself.

    Download fixed MF file ->http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nmgcmrgzzdg

    Replace your /etc/cabal/Data/Data_World/world9-terrain.scp with this one.


    Explanation

    Open /etc/cabal/Data/Data_World/world9-terrain.scp and find this section:

    Code:
    [CommDrop]	TerrainIdx	ItemKind	ItemOpt	DropRate	MinLv	MaxLv	Group	MaxDropCnt	OptPoolIdx	DurationIdx
    0	0	416	0	.00000190000000000	110	200	0	0	0	0
    Here is what i changed it to:

    Code:
    [CommDrop]	TerrainIdx	ItemKind	ItemOpt	DropRate	MinLv	MaxLv	Group	MaxDropCnt	OptPoolIdx	DurationIdx
    0	0	416	0	.99000190000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    The more observant among you will notice i changed the MinLv and DropRate columns. The Droprate column is obvious and has been bumped... a little bit.


    If you look at the original MinLv and MaxLv columns you will see that this item (EoG+7) will only drop for level 110-200 players and if you look through your original file you will see that many of the items in MF actually don't drop for the very high level players, most stop dropping at level 137-163. That's why your uber level guys are not getting anything but alz. I have changed all of the items in the file to drop between levels 1 and 200 to make it a bit more fair.

    Also, to make things a little more interesting, i have added a few things at the bottom of the [CommDrop] section:
    Code:
    212	0	1159	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    213	0	1160	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    214	0	1161	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    215	0	1162	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    216	0	1163	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    217	0	1164	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    218	0	1165	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    219	0	1166	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    220	0	1167	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    221	0	1168	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    222	0	1169	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    223	0	1170	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    224	0	1171	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    225	0	1172	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    226	0	1173	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    227	0	1174	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    228	0	1175	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    229	0	1176	0	.99250000000000000	1	200	0	0	0	0
    Yes that is a set of Mithril Boxes added to the general droplist as well. :shock2:

    Map numbers:
    1 - Bloody Ice
    2 - Desert Scream
    3 - Green Despair
    4 - Port Lux
    5 - Fort Ruina
    6 - Lakeside
    7 - Undead Ground
    8 - Forgotten Ruin
    9 - Mutant Forest
    10 - Pontus Ferrum
    13 - Frozen Tower of Undead
    14 - Ruina Station
    15 - Tierra Gloriosa
    16 - Tierra Gloriosa (lobby)
    19 - Jail
    23 - Forgotten Temple
    24 - Volcanic Citadel
    25 - Exilian Volcano
    26 - Lake in Dusk
    27 - Dungeon world 3
    28 - Dungeon world 2
    29 - Dungeon world 1
    30 - Warp Room
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    Last edited by chumpywumpy; 21-09-09 at 12:53 PM.


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    Alpha Tester darkxl is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    nice chumpywumpy!

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    Enthusiast elfrind is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    On Your screen shot i see that items drop from almost every mob. Will it be like 1 items from 50 mobs on normal rates(like3x) or same?
    Thanks anyway for release.

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    Akaruz - The Legend [hidden] is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    great release chump. this sure would solve a lot of headaches.

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    The Dinosaur chumpywumpy is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    Good point. I forgot to tell you my rates. I had my droprate in const.scp at 5x with 2 items to drop and i have UseWorldDrop=1 in my WorldSvr ini file. At 1x rates you will still get lots of items though.

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    Member Terbee is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    nice release... good job..

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    Apprentice mjsamet is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    thankss

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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    how u set that mobs drop 2 items when die?

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    Enthusiast Smiagol1000 is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    Very strange i have put drop rate 3.0000000000 for Upgrade core higest and its still not droping it...
    why?

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    The Dinosaur chumpywumpy is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    3.0 is far far too high, remember that cabal does not like very high rates on things as if the numbers get too high they reset back to 0. Try putting your char stats stupidly high and you will see things like your attack rate drops to 1.

    Keep the numbers under 0.x and remember that the drop rates are in relation to each other and not like 1.0 makes a perfect drop.

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    Enthusiast Smiagol1000 is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    All my forcium items are higher then 3.0..... and the drop is perfect....
    its just some things not falling like Upgrade core highesr or EOF things like that....
    But when im puting 0.9..... only money drops...
    Last edited by Smiagol1000; 28-09-08 at 06:04 PM.

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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    Chumpy, I don't understand how this DropRate system works ;o
    I think it's multiplied for some number and then we have those huge numbers.
    and I don't know what percentage for example, .99250000000000000 means.

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    Enthusiast Smiagol1000 is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    Quote Originally Posted by poperon View Post
    Chumpy, I don't understand how this DropRate system works ;o
    I think it's multiplied for some number and then we have those huge numbers.
    and I don't know what percentage for example, .99250000000000000 means.
    like i understand its means 99%

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    Valued Member HellCat_666 is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    ok the drop rate is like this on the terrain part


    .10000190000000000 is a medium drop rate
    .99000190000000000 is a high drop rate
    .00000190000000000 is a low drop rate

    every map has the same rate calculation

    if you make it like chumpy did its gona drop like crasy even if drop rate in const.scp is on 1

    so .99000190000000000 is a good rate if you want every mob to drop 3 ore more items like chumpy made it

    i personaly like the rate to be a lot lower so i edit them to be more like
    .05000190000000000 so it wil be harder to get the items and more funn for the players

    and then about the highest cores
    to quote chumpywumpy
    [CommDrop ]TerrainIdx ItemKind ItemOpt DropRate MinLv MaxLv Group

    32 0 1214 0 .10050000000000000 1 200 11
    33 0 1215 0 .10050000000000000 1 200 11
    are the codes for highest cores force and upgrade
    but look at the number after 200 that the max lvl
    but add a group number to it and it wil drop from that mobs group
    if you let it stay on 0 it wil drop very very rare
    whit the group number at example 11 it wil drop more comenly from that goup of mobs
    so take a look on what group you want them to drop and ad the number to the list
    and they wil drop in greater numbers

    ok hope this helps
    gr HellCat

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    The Dinosaur chumpywumpy is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    Stop thinking about them as direct percentages, that .99xxxx means 99% chance of the item dropping as that isn't how it works. If it was then if you put something at 1.0xxx would make that 1 item drop every single time. The bigger numbers do mean more of a chance of them dropping but remember that other items want to drop as well and putting some items at very high rates will simply stop other things dropping just like what Smiagol1000 is seeing.

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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    chumpy i got disconnected when looting items in mutant forest with your new repack..

    i applied your mutant forest drop rate

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    The Dinosaur chumpywumpy is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    V2 of my repack is designed to be used with SAUR0N's client synch patch and if you don't use it some values will be wrong. Keep your old const.scp and product.scp if you don't use the synch patch.

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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    i really dont understand saur0n's syns patch.. since no internal.txt how do i put the ip of my server?



    Edit: my server is fine now.. BUT i use your old World_24_01.ini i just save it on the notepad and back it up....

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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    thanx and more power to you chump....

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    Sappin' Xoz0r is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    No wonder why I get crap in Ruina Station on official.
    Rofl

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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    Ok... and Rates like for example, 16.00000000000000000 are extreme DropRates?
    The last thing that i need to know ^^"

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    Alpha Tester darkxl is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    How do I configure a drop to make it difficult?

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    Go go go! Cath22 is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    can i use this on my server is this balanced?

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    The Dinosaur chumpywumpy is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    No this is definitely not balanced. The default drops are balanced as they should be and doing what i have done here imbalances it a lot as MF becomes a complete dropfest. This is really just to show how to edit drops and for those people who want the higher maps to drop like crazy as many people don't care about balance at all.

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    Novice daniel2219 is offline
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    Re: How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

    halo...
    may i knw izzit work for cabalsea???
    coz i dun where to paste the file that u upload....
    anyway thks for ur info......



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