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  1. #1
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    Allow socials in signature

    Apparently its strictly forbidden to link to any personal socials in signatures.

    My signature keeps being removed for breaking global forum rules #27 which states:

    Refrain from moving / bringing topics off the board. This includes the posting / requesting / exchanging of contact information and platforms such as Skype, Discord, facebook, Mail or PMs. (Not only is the information publicly visible, but it's also bringing topics off the board / defeating the purpose of a forum.)
    But I'm not doing that. I'm not moving any conversation / topic off the board. Its just a way for people to contact me outside of ragezone. There is no discussion in my signature, no conversation or whatever. I fully understand and agree that if you are say in a help thread and then say hey please contact me on MSN so I can help you out would be considered moving topics off the board.

    Ragezone has a discord server, which could be considered moving topics "off the board"

    There are ragezone staff members who have their socials in their signature; xbox tags, steam tags, twitter handles, discord, skype etc.

    I am aware of the "usernames" section on profiles, but people rarely check that.
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    It's 2021, and as such, I wholeheartedly agree with this.
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    Well.. Why not just accept the rule and don't put it?
    I want put too, but if i can't, why ill complain?

    It's just a matter of accepting..

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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    @The General Your signature has been slammed before for your habbo development discord link which you now have as your title. Which very much is in the spirit of what Global Rule #27 is trying to prevent. Congrats on finding the loophole in the rule, others use the location spot. These loopholes may close in the future.

    Ultimately, choosing to use the RZ forum is the user's choice, development discords and other off-forum forms of communication harms the forum and community who rely on it. The RZ discord was created mostly as a place to chill and talk without the usual forum rules, much the same as spamzilla, as far as I know.

    Pretty sure we've never nuked a person's signature for harmless things like gamer tags, but if you post a link to a dev discord or private server discord, expect a nuke incoming. I personally will try to be more allowing of RZ discord tags in signatures as long as they aren't being used nefariously. Other than that, Global Rule #27 serves a purpose and will definitely be enforced.
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    Quote Originally Posted by PyroSamurai View Post
    @The General Your signature has been slammed before for your habbo development discord link which you now have as your title. Which very much is in the spirit of what Global Rule #27 is trying to prevent. Congrats on finding the loophole in the rule, others use the location spot. These loopholes may close in the future.
    Pretty sure we've never nuked a person's signature for harmless things like gamer tags, but if you post a link to a dev discord or private server discord, expect a nuke incoming. I personally will try to be more allowing of RZ discord tags in signatures as long as they aren't being used nefariously. Other than that, Global Rule #27 serves a purpose and will definitely be enforced.
    Before I just had the follwing in my signature which also got removed:

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    Plenty of people who link to their own website which then has a link to their own discord account / servers. Is that allowed? Linking to any other website which contains the link?

    Retro development on RZ is dead anyways, You're not missing out on anything and it isnt siphoning users away. Pretty much everyone in there has an RZ account. And if you had a look around, you'd see I pretty much copy over everything from RZ to discord or the other way around. Nobody is missing out on anything. Besides that, its pretty dead anyways.

    Ultimately, choosing to use the RZ forum is the user's choice, The RZ discord was created mostly as a place to chill and talk without the usual forum rules, much the same as spamzilla, as far as I know.
    Kind of ironic once you realize RZ runs a discord server? So much for trying to keep the conversation on the forums. There is a place for whatever is discussed on the RZ discord on the forums. https://forum.ragezone.com/f9/

    development discords and other off-forum forms of communication harms the forum and community who rely on it.
    Not linking to other platforms is harming it because its pretty much censorship and therefor a lot of people abandon these forums and move to other places where they can freely communicate and link to other platforms. Twitter, devbest, github, their own forums etc.

    And I get it, you dont want competition or allow people to advertise other forums that offer the same features as RZ.

    But please clear up the rules.

    Allow gamer tags in signature?
    Allow social media tags in signature?
    Allow linking to other websites?
    Allow linking to other websites who redirect you to other forums / social media / gaming platforms?
    Allow linking to other websites that have a static button that redirects you to other forums / social media / gaming platforms?

    People are allowed to advertise their private servers and link to their websites where they link to their discord server.
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    I had the same issue, I had paid advertising spots on here for my business site, I also had permission from Dan to also place the link and or banner in my signature, it was removed. I talked with the staff team who once they saw proof I had permission was fine all apart from one staff member who holds a personal grudge against me, eventually I spoke to one of the administrators about it, I had shown this particular member of staff the proof a few times who disregarded it and continued to remove it and threatened me with a ban if placed it in my signature again.

    I feel at times that all depends on the member of staff and how they want to interpret the rules too.

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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    @The General Signature rules haven't been touched in a long time, a revamp is probably on the to-do list. I'll bring up your suggestions when that revamp happens. I can't promise more than that.

    @NOC That is pretty close to the truth, which is why we vet moderators so thoroughly. But also keep in mind that part of that subjective decision making is owning our decisions and taking responsibility for our mistakes and punishment from our higher ups if need be. The only person who's decisions can't be challenged on this forum is Mental himself. So if you are sure you are in the right, take it up the chain of command every time.
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    Quote Originally Posted by PyroSamurai View Post
    @The General Signature rules haven't been touched in a long time, a revamp is probably on the to-do list. I'll bring up your suggestions when that revamp happens. I can't promise more than that.

    @NOC That is pretty close to the truth, which is why we vet moderators so thoroughly. But also keep in mind that part of that subjective decision making is owning our decisions and taking responsibility for our mistakes and punishment from our higher ups if need be. The only person who's decisions can't be challenged on this forum is Mental himself. So if you are sure you are in the right, take it up the chain of command every time.
    It is very true, but once you show that member of staff the proof you have that should be the end of the issue, but as this member of staff has a personal issue with me not connected with the forum in any way he feels that he must disrupt my advertising or posts in any way possible by changing the interpretation of the rules to remove or edit my posts. I finally got it sorted but my point is that although we are all human the rules should be applied and enforced the same the everyone unless they have permission to do a certain thing from EG the owner of the forum.

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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    "We really dont like you having your discord name in your signature and we strictly enforce this rule on the forums"

    https://forum.ragezone.com/f245/sour...3/#post9087963
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f245/sour...6/#post9087986
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f311/help...7/#post9087987
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/muge...9/#post9087979
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f861/purc...2/#post9087962
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/disc...9/#post9087369
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/mu-e...1/#post9087851
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f861/requ...7/#post9079607
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f861/requ...1/#post9087811
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f857/evon...1/#post9087771
    (Discord & Whatsapp Doxing, yay for allowing that!) https://forum.ragezone.com/f610/bewa...3/#post9087743
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f115/spir...5/#post9087495
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f1000/rel...5/#post9086775
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f1000/rel...4/#post9087294
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f857/lost...4/#post9078534
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f857/lost...4/#post9087354
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/proj...4/#post9087334
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f508/deve...1/#post8995631
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f115/tera...8/#post9087278
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f193/help...6/#post9087056
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/mu-a...7/#post9085647
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f888/disc...2/#post9087072
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/play...6/#post9086976
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f988/sour...0/#post8926620
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f988/sour...4/#post8927644
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f608/orac...4/#post9086834
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f115/sro-...6/#post9071386
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/proj...1/#post9086761
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/mu-a...2/#post9086642
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f115/wild...5/#post9086435
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f115/icar...2/#post8597752
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/mu-c...9/#post9082349
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f115/clas...8/#post9086358
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f859/dist...8/#post9086318
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f859/arct...8/#post9086178
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f888/myth...5/#post9085715
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/mu-a...0/#post9085650
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f692/web-...7/#post9085517
    https://forum.ragezone.com/members/1...000231507.html
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f198/arca...4/#post9054894
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f206/game...6/#post9085426
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f206/cpn-...5/#post9085335
    https://forum.ragezone.com/f861/naru...2/#post9084857
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    Technically they're not in their signatures...



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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    Quote Originally Posted by Joopie View Post
    Technically they're not in their signatures...
    No, just implying how strictly these rules are enforced.
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    I handled your list, @The General. It'd be appreciated if you use the report function next time. The Discord of the private servers haven't been removed for the same reason we allow servers to post their website link.

    The reason why some posts are not being handled by a moderator doesn't have to do with the fact that moderators are not enforcing the rules, but it is more than likely that the moderators haven't noticed the post. That's why we ask RaGEZONE users to report a rule-breaking post. There's a chance we won't notice the post.

    That being said, you've written a good suggestion. Let's keep it that way.
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    hi sorry i was looking to get help with setting up a server. and i added my Discord to the post and it was deleted. how do i get someone to help me set up a server if i cant chat with them?

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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    Quote Originally Posted by God0FWar View Post
    hi sorry i was looking to get help with setting up a server. and i added my Discord to the post and it was deleted. how do i get someone to help me set up a server if i cant chat with them?
    Create a help thread and talk on the forum.

    Or send them a PM.

    Its not like RZ has a build in teamviewer service
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    Re: Allow socials in signature

    Thanks for the feedback! Please read https://forum.ragezone.com/f71/atten...2/#post9088689.

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