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  1. #16
    Omega bobsobol is offline
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    Re: Report Section

    Quote Originally Posted by Improved View Post
    I'm sorry you feel that we're targeting you, but this is not the case.
    To a certain extent, I see that differently.

    It sounds impolite and incorrect to say that moderators will pick on certain people... but we do. The type of "certain people" we will pick on is "people who break the rules". So if you want to stop being picked on, just stop breaking the rules.

    It's quite simple, really. ^_^

    Of course, we are only human. The chain of command is there for times when we miss-read the situation. We may issue too harsh a punishment by misunderstanding. We may take something as being personally offensive when it's actually an in-joke we weren't aware of and so on. Of course you have the right to appeal such actions, and if you can evidence your side we have means to work that out.

    When numerous staff are issuing infractions for a group of similar offences, it's probably a good idea to start practising "self-moderation". Make sure your posts are not misunderstood, and do not even look like they break rules.

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    @Aaron - Thanks for that really great post and I highly appreciate that. Will do pm you, later on.

    @Improved - I know, I break some of the rule but as I've said that your work is epic as hell, mate. Other forums that are popular than RZ aren't really strict like you. I stopped, developing and learning stuff about Flyff because of you. I tried to move in MU and check some, until I've noticed that their section are really great. Moderated clear, perfectly no problem. Others can troll and make some funny jokes, but YOU 'I felt sorry to say, I suggest to work for a security guard instead moderating RZ'.

    @bobsobol - I know what you saying. I broke some of the rule but I know what I am doing. If you stay ON the topic of the thread, do you think that's a spam? Asking or answering a question, is that a spam?

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    i sell platypus Improved is offline
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    Re: Report Section

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    @Aaron - Thanks for that really great post and I highly appreciate that. Will do pm you, later on.

    @Improved - I know, I break some of the rule but as I've said that your work is epic as hell, mate. Other forums that are popular than RZ aren't really strict like you. I stopped, developing and learning stuff about Flyff because of you. I tried to move in MU and check some, until I've noticed that their section are really great. Moderated clear, perfectly no problem. Others can troll and make some funny jokes, but YOU 'I felt sorry to say, I suggest to work for a security guard instead moderating RZ'.

    @bobsobol - I know what you saying. I broke some of the rule but I know what I am doing. If you stay ON the topic of the thread, do you think that's a spam? Asking or answering a question, is that a spam?
    A rule violation is a rule violation. We do allow jokes and a friendly atmosphere, but the sad reality is that when people do want to joke in the section, then it's offensive and targeted against someone. This is strictly prohibited.
    I really think it's unfair of you to target me for the atmosphere in the section when you're contributing greatly to some of the flame wars going on, and they aren't kept around for show. Trolling in a section will also be removed, and I don't see how that is too strict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    I know what I am doing. If you stay ON the topic of the thread, do you think that's a spam? Asking or answering a question, is that a spam?
    I think infractions for those actions would quickly be reversed. You don't have any infractions on your account for staying on topic, answering questions or asking them.

    I've had entire posts deleted, most of whose content was fine just for a small part which was not appropriate, or because, while my post was fine, it was part of a thread which became massively derailed. (in fact, I've deleted my own posts when clearing out derailment makes them meaningless) I've not been infracted for that, but I would infract someone who did it on a regular basis.

    Even so, answering questions which are highly inappropriate in them self isn't cleaver. (the sensible action would be to use the report button, but I responded to a reasonable, inoffensive question in my section less than 24hrs ago which, when I re-read it, had no place on the forum at all, so I deleted the entire thread, my post included XD) Equally, asking questions which go beyond the bounds of the forum or section you post in is off-topic in it's self.

    That recent example is quite a good one. I read the question, and it was related to the game whose section I moderate and private servers hosting it It was polite and for the most part seemed on-topc. I had an answer so I responded. But when I looked again, there was no [tag], and the thread would not fit any tag we use in the development forum. In effect, it was a question about the game it's self, as implemented in private servers, and not related to developing it at all. XD

    Interesting? Yes. Appropriate? No.

    Your infractions are outside sections I deal with, so I can't look at your claims in detail. Fact is, if you really feel you are being excessively moderated, you can take that up with a person 1 level above the person who you feel is mistreating you. They can recall all the records for their sections and those of their subordinates and investigate your claims.

    If you do make that appeal I would have to assume you are prepared to accept the decision of the person who initially moderated you. (infracted, deleted a post or whatever) If you have made the appeal and the initial decision is upheld, I'd think seriously about my argument before taking it higher again... and by the time you reach MentaL and he says you're wrong, you are wrong. End of...

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    Flyff Developer Intelligence is offline
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    Re: Report Section

    Sorry to bump this, but the greatest moderator gave me an infaction again.

    Well, he's not online for a week and I think that's disadvantage for a moderator in the community.
    Btw, straight to the point, that when this moderator 'Improved' isn't online for a week in the section of Flyff. The section became alot better without him, and now he's back, he started giving infractions again and I guess, he gave 5-10 infractions and warning just this day.

    What a good mod, is she. Do you really allowed, this kind of mod in your communty? No offence ha, just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    Sorry to bump this, but the greatest moderator gave me an infaction again.

    Well, he's not online for a week and I think that's disadvantage for a moderator in the community.
    Btw, straight to the point, that when this moderator 'Improved' isn't online for a week in the section of Flyff. The section became alot better without him, and now he's back, he started giving infractions again and I guess, he gave 5-10 infractions and warning just this day.

    What a good mod, is she. Do you really allowed, this kind of mod in your communty? No offence ha, just saying.
    If you have a problem with a moderator, PM a higher-up. Visor/Smod.

    Stop your banter & while you are at it, stop bumping old threads too.

    Also, Improved is "he" not "she"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    Well, I guess all mod in Flyff are pretty crap (no offensive) because they moderate the section really strict as shit that no user can cooperate in each thread. Everytime I visit the forum for the section, and post something. Then after a few mins, my posts got deleted. I just don't know what he's trying to show, etc.
    Any high staff, can help for this kind of situation? I just don't know if mod in the section are working properly. They work epic as hell.
    You're even crappy since you only post to see your post count increase.

    example: http://forum.ragezone.com/f456/new-flyff-v-19-a-865978/

    This thread is an advertisement to a Flyff server and it's not allowed in the Flyff Section. NeoGT Posted saying that he was in the wrong section. From that post the OP would notice his mistake and a Mod would have Closed/Moved the thread. Then you came to the thread posting exactly the same as NeoGT, why? I don't know but we will think that you only posted because of the post count. I'm wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoGT View Post
    This is not the right section to advertise servers. Anyways, no information about the server, no screens, website 5/10.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    Wrong section buddy.

    Greatest mod "Improved", where are you?
    By saying "Greatest mod "Improved" where are you?", looks like you would've been a better moderator then Improved, you're far way from that buddy, You have no rights to tell that Improved is a bad mod, he did ALOT to the section, He spends alot of his time into it and his dedication is respected, instead of saying shit about him or w/e you are trying to say, Learn to be in a forum and stop being an idiot, because you're being one, seriously.

    Oh way, let me reinforce my view about you being a completely Spammer at RZ:

    http://forum.ragezone.com/f457/new-flyff-v19-865977/

    Another advertisement thread (same server as before but in the Flyff Releases Section)

    Quote Originally Posted by Yahoo404 View Post
    Advertisement? Bongwapo! Stop Advertising
    Yahoo404 warned the OP this time, what we get after his post?
    (...)alot of spams(...)
    OH WAIT! a Wild "Intelligence" appears saying:

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    Kill!
    nice choice of words, It took you 1 word to express your opinion, spam more please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    Well, I guess all mod in Flyff are pretty crap (no offensive) because they moderate the section really strict as shit that no user can cooperate in each thread. Everytime I visit the forum for the section, and post something. Then after a few mins, my posts got deleted. I just don't know what he's trying to show, etc.
    Any high staff, can help for this kind of situation? I just don't know if mod in the section are working properly. They work epic as hell.
    Sections have their own rules, an do also those spammers just like you, which is sad to hear but it's true. They must enforce the rules in their sections to keep the section cleaner as possible, your threads got deleted after minutes? you did something wrong, ask the mod what you've done to get your thread deleted instead of saying the mods sucks and you would've been a better mod then them.

    To be honest with you, this thread is a joke, You just want some attention, everyone is happy with Improved and his way of moderating his sections, you're just a random spammer complaining because he doesn't allow you to spam freely.

    And btw, if you want me to continue with quotes of you being a totally spammer. please ask me and I'll be pleasured to post them in here

  8. #23
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    Re: Report Section

    @Error 404 - Thanks sir. I'll do what you said and next time read, that I said sorry for bumping the thread.

    @Scratch - ?

    MEGA LOL ..


    PS. Close the thread.

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    Re: Report Section

    Quote Originally Posted by Intelligence View Post
    @Error 404 - Thanks sir. I'll do what you said and next time read, that I said sorry for bumping the thread.

    @Scratch - ?

    MEGA LOL ..


    PS. Close the thread.
    you complain a lot about our moderators because they do their jobs deleting your own crap, what do you expect?
    grow up and stop making useless posts/threads, after doing what I'm telling you will see that the mods will not delete your posts again. (and you know I'm not the only one who thinks the same)



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