[Suggestion] L1J Forum

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Originally Posted by Dell Honne

And do you not see I quoted the main part of that post and sent him the link to the section?

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I was referring to the thread, not to the section itself.

I might just leave because all this bikkering of crap is really starting to rattle my chains =/ Thought we were suppose to be a community?

Very much a huge yawn, for a the record, I think that a section should be made if a few people would like it, not just one guy. (and if a few people still dont have a 'respected' amount of posts (whatever that is) it wouldnt matter, as it is a few rather than one guy.)

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Originally Posted by ***LILK@OS***

I might just leave because all this bikkering of crap is really starting to rattle my chains =/ Thought we were suppose to be a community?

Very much a huge yawn, for a the record, I think that a section should be made if a few people would like it, not just one guy. (and if a few people still dont have a 'respected' amount of posts (whatever that is) it wouldnt matter, as it is a few rather than one guy.)

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This bickering crap started when two people started thinking I was denying development and beating down a new member when I simply quoted the standard of section creation and directed him to where he should post his files to increase development and whatever else to get a section.

But no, same shit with Ron and I Rule Mu always comes up every single time I post somewhere.

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Originally Posted by ***LILK@OS***

I might just leave because all this bikkering of crap is really starting to rattle my chains =/ Thought we were suppose to be a community?

Very much a huge yawn, for a the record, I think that a section should be made if a few people would like it, not just one guy. (and if a few people still dont have a 'respected' amount of posts (whatever that is) it wouldnt matter, as it is a few rather than one guy.)

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We are supposed to be and you're right, there's no reason for anyone to be arguing. Your opinion, as much as that of others should be extremely valued because that's how a community works. I only dropped in here because of the first response to the OP and the small reaction afterwards.

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Originally Posted by Dell Honne

But no, same shit with Ron and I Rule Mu always comes up every single time I post somewhere.

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Full disclosure is I don't know your background with Ron or I Rule Mu. Mine was troubled when I worked here so I would understand where a lot of your tone is coming from.

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Originally Posted by Kaoii

We are supposed to be and you're right, there's no reason for anyone to be arguing. Your opinion, as much as that of others should be extremely valued because that's how a community works. I only dropped in here because of the first response to the OP and the small reaction afterwards.




Full disclosure is I don't know your background with Ron or I Rule Mu. Mine was troubled when I worked here so I would understand where a lot of your tone is coming from.

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Because when I give an answer all of a sudden I don't have the seniority or power to do so. Then they both bring up how the whole moderator team is blah blah blah and it's getting sick and disgusting as of late which is why I'm in such a horrid mood because everything seems to be taken negatively or like I'm trying to crush them.

Did I deny him the section? No I said if he increases awareness and the development he'll get it. Did I leave him in the blank as to where to get all this? No I left the link to the section where all files without a section go. So I don't understand where this whole "The decision doesn't depend on Dell" and "Dell is power abusing and taking things he shouldn't be in his own hands" and stuff like that.


Here I'll leave this for them since they can't understand:

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Originally Posted by Super Moderator X

We promoted him to a supervisor because he knows what he is doing, and we trust him.

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I wouldn't post if I didn't know what I was saying.

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Originally Posted by Dell Honne

Because when I give an answer all of a sudden I don't have the seniority or power to do so. Then they both bring up how the whole moderator team is blah blah blah and it's getting sick and disgusting as of late which is why I'm in such a horrid mood because everything seems to be taken negatively or like I'm trying to crush them.

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I can relate to this frustration, but the only advice I can give you on that is not to take the path I did to deal with dissent.

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Originally Posted by Dell Honne

I don't understand where this whole "The decision doesn't depend on Dell" and "Dell is power abusing and taking things he shouldn't be in his own hands" and stuff like that.

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That's all well and good, but when things like this are posted:

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Originally Posted by Dell Honne

You have 3 posts, joined this month, we don't even know who you are and your requesting a section.

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immediately after this:

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Originally Posted by OP

errr.... My Project have more than 95% , to be 100% i need to complete the fully converted website LineWeb to use in a Lineage 1 Server, so that's sufficient to open a section to L1j ? i need to find now users e.e

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to me that seems like you're baiting for a reaction - even if you're not. I mean no disrespect here, so please don't take this the wrong way. I'm just trying to show you from a non-moderator's perspective how things can be seen from that angle.

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Originally Posted by Kaoii

I can relate to this frustration, but the only advice I can give you on that is not to take the path I did to deal with dissent.




That's all well and good, but when things like this are posted:




immediately after this:




to me that seems like you're baiting for a reaction - even if you're not. I mean no disrespect here, so please don't take this the wrong way. I'm just trying to show you from a non-moderator's perspective how things can be seen from that angle.

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Take it from a trust point of view:

Someone new joins and requests a section and claims they have 95% complete files with no actual proof other than his post.

That was the point of my post, some bittersweet reality in case he didn't understand the point in my first post.

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Originally Posted by Dell Honne

Take it from a trust point of view:

Some new joins and requests a section and claims they have 95% complete files with no actual proof other than his post.

That was the point of my post.

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And I completely sympathize with that point of view - I've been there more times than I can count. I still don't think you're getting my point though, which is instead of posting the response you did, it might have been better strategically just to let it go. By doing so, if he actually had something he would be motivated to provide it. Now (assuming he has something; I don't disregard the strong chance he doesn't) there's a chance he might just leave.

Again, I'm not trying to be hostile at all towards you nor am I trying to be argumentative. I'm just trying to provide a perspective.

Section shall not be made, it does not meet the requirements.

Please check MMORPG Extra - MMORPG Zone - RaGEZONE forums for more information or making releases.

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Originally Posted by MentaL

I only make sections for working files or files which are 90% close to completion.

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Also only if there is a lot of development and a lot of users want the forum then the section will be made.

Have a nice day!

PS: Kaoii, how nice to see you post that way.

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Originally Posted by Dell Honne

Err wow?

MMORPG Extra - MMORPG Zone - RaGEZONE forums



Also only if there is a lot of development and a lot of users want the forum then the section will be made.

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Post a dev thread in that section with 90%+ files, if it is active enough to require a section I'm sure it can be arranged.

If there isn't any demand for it, creating a new section is just going to make another in a long list of inactive dev sections, like Ron has already mentioned. This leads to people getting annoyed and proclaiming RZ is dying, which we all know is bollocks.


Rest of you, stop having arguments. I know you have opinions (everyone does!) but this isn't the time or the place to voice them.

Edit: Dammit Dios you beat me!

if you share the files on rz in the mmo development section and it garnishes enough attention then I'll make the section for you.