View Poll Results: Play with v6 skills and PvP with v12 files?

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  • Hell Yea! Bring back the Skill Spamming parties!

    78 82.11%
  • No thanks, the new system is ok

    14 14.74%
  • I abstain mostly because v6 was before my time.

    3 3.16%

Back to basics. Something not done before....

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  1. #31
    Ragezone OG FrostElite is offline
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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    Quote Originally Posted by ClownOfValetine View Post
    you know the systems are extremely simple to work in
    What do you mean by this ?


    Quote Originally Posted by ClownOfValetine View Post
    but the skill leveling by use is hardly a challenge to code mabe a bit awkward from it being so long since v6 was so long ago but it shouldnt take much effort as createing Rhisis
    I Disagree with this

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    For thoes v7+ people, here's what we're talking about:

    (Im GLAD I started in v6 cause I MISSED thoes stuff!)

    -PvP (or PK): There used to be loadlights all over the world, where players would stand near so they can't get killed. If you killed a player, you get bad karma (Kind of like current eFlyff), however, if you die, you lose some items and is sent to Kebaras Island, where you would have to earn your freedom (Kind of like jail). So, in a way, it was cool knowing a game had a jail system...however...it turned into Azria to get more money...thoes bastards.

    -"Skill Spamming" or Pxp: What this was is instead of the current "Exp" bar, you have that and a Pxp bar that fills up when you kill a monster. However, everytime you use a skill, it drains some Pxp and raises that skill's exp. The skills remain a max of 20, or 10 (2nd job skills), but you have to use them ALOT to max it. So in other words. A level 35 assist could have every single buff maxed.

    [In my personal experience, I think this was better. For a few reasons. One of them was Ringmaster WANTING to buff people so they can level thier skills! I mean instead of todays assholey ringmasters saying "Go away noob" and ending up using Shit Pang buffs]

    This was NEVER mentioned, but I think I want to ask Glaphan if the v6 client had it

    ERON COLLECTING!
    For you v6 people, do you remember thoes GIANT blue eron things in the middle of the Flaris lake and people would farm them with collectors and sell them for some cash? Thoes were the GOOD days! I made a good 1m a day off thoes [With some help from my friends though]. Thoes eron ores could be used to make Fuel to make your flying board/broom/bike go faster. But later was removed because of a reason (I think it would have been cool cause todays flying is butt-fuck slow)

    The Saint Morning arena.
    Thoes bring good memories to me. Sure the new arena is cool, but I just adore that small arena in Saint Morning people would just sit and chat. Plus, you couldn't just get raped, you have to accept in a duel, which NOBODY does anymore!

    If I forgot anything, please remind me cause I just remember the GOOD old days of eFlyff.

    Version 6 = <3 will be missed....maybe not anymore if Glaphan can get it working [Woot Go GK!]

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    I remeber those PD4...was so funny....and traning skills hours and hours while i was at school ^^

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    Thanks for he info i have started on V7 and your right those function are better, we clearly see hy they have changed...money money money...

    i have to finish our V11 project but if i can help you glaphan, tell me.

    And for skill system lol no it's no so hard !
    Well for removing gameguard and asprotec i have ask to a friend, but you can MP johny (if i remember he know how to remove it) to ask him...

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    ow I'm very lucky I have still the v6 installer hahahaha I kept this 2 years and v6 also have exp bix when you died you can recover 1 exp on it XD

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    v6 was the best flyff version imo. It was not level up all the day taking care not to die and lose lots of % and maybe a level. It was like level up, go to server 4, go to kebaras start the 50 mobs quest and then go to flaris loadlight. It was sooo fun, before school I always went there to have some fun. Burudeng skill spamming was fun also, people there kept talking while spamming, not just afk spam and come back to get pxp. Now if you plvl someone he will have the same skills as you but doing nothing. PD 4 was so cheap that you could +3 any equip. Now you cant +1 a equip without loosing millions, not to talk about awakens that makes people overpowered.
    If you need any v6 info, you can ask me because I know a lot about it :P

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    Alpha Member GlaphanKing is offline
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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    Will do. The only real things are the NPCs that were removed from v7 like Valin, and the other NPCs who initiated the 1st Job Changes. I found a site that indexed them but their locations are not there.

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    Quote Originally Posted by BBim View Post
    v6 was the best flyff version imo. It was not level up all the day taking care not to die and lose lots of % and maybe a level. It was like level up, go to server 4, go to kebaras start the 50 mobs quest and then go to flaris loadlight. It was sooo fun, before school I always went there to have some fun. Burudeng skill spamming was fun also, people there kept talking while spamming, not just afk spam and come back to get pxp. Now if you plvl someone he will have the same skills as you but doing nothing. PD 4 was so cheap that you could +3 any equip. Now you cant +1 a equip without loosing millions, not to talk about awakens that makes people overpowered.
    If you need any v6 info, you can ask me because I know a lot about it :P
    I agree.

    eFlyFF now, is nothing but level level level level.

    If you aren't a BP you aren't going anywhere in PVP, or siege.

    As for v6/7, EVERY class had a relatively fair chance in PVP and siege. And you had other fun quests and activities to do other than level 24/7.

    And I completely agree with the PD's part. Back in v6 on Lawolf server, PD4 were 100-250k MAX!, and they actually dropped more often... You could go to mars mine as a nub and get 20-30 easily and make a +3 set for yourself and sell the rest. Now you're lucky to get 1 sunstone by the time you're level 30-40. And suns with al ow drop rate, also cost upwards of 1m now, and not long ago were up to 3-3.5m. Which is way to much for just +3.

    Then back in v6/7 the economy was so much better. When I first started spros were 500-600k, then towards the start of v7 on lawolf they were about 4m which is still reasonable with the prices of PD's, would of been a 4.1m upgrade or loss, as opposed to now which is 10m+ spros and 1m+ suns you're looking at 3 times the amount of money lost if you fail an upgrade.

    And that's why I say eFly will fail soon enough. New players join and can't afford anything, get mad that they can't get their greens or jewels and decide to quit because it's to hard without CS'ing. Which kind of goes against the game being free to play imo...

    And even with Fames increased drop rate, when I played it I got to level 50 and only found 2 sunstones the whole time.



    One of my favorite things from v6 though had to be the mighteers and strentes and dexions. Sure upgrading jewelry is nice, but those ones had unique icons that actually look better than the icons used for str/dex rings and demols now...

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    mighteers, strentes and dexions ftw :D
    I got so sad when my strentes turned into vigors and mighteers to demol :(
    s4 sm arena was a good place also. A psy using crucio against a bj or blade was also funny if they didnt know about it: "hit hit die" lol

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    LOL

    I got so mad when they nerfed Crucio and pain reflect in pvp, I loved sitting in the arena with friends watching psys and knights own everyone without doing anything xD


    And another thing like I said in my first post, I loved seeing peoples levels that were only 9 levels up. Kind of gave a fun thing to do with leveling. level up and be able to see peoples levels you hadn't seen before.

    And not being able to be killed by a level 15 mage at level 11x -.- I don't know what the devs were thinking with taking out level/damage reduction... That had to be one of the worst things ever ._. It would also solve this whole BP's owning everyone thing. Half of them get to level 80 for asal and just go awake a ton of mp/str/dmmt stuff and you have level 80's doing 30-40k++ asals on 100-120/hero chars, and if we still had level/damage reduction then those people wouldn't be such a pest.

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    v7 skill system was the WORST addition to the game. Leveling your skills was a vital part of the game and they took it away and replaced them as skill points and level requirements.

    I was so frustrated when it happened. I had a kickass RM and was on the way to leveling my skills to get Merkaba H. Then the skills system changed and I had another 15 levels or so before I could even get the skill regardless of how high the other ones were.

    So with an overwhelming applause of this thread, I will start this project up once I get a working clean Neuz from my source.

    Once the project is underway and a demo is available, I will move to the development thread and continue there.

  12. #42
    Ragezone OG FrostElite is offline
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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    The V6 skill system was the best IMO

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    Quote Originally Posted by GlaphanKing View Post
    v7 skill system was the WORST addition to the game. Leveling your skills was a vital part of the game and they took it away and replaced them as skill points and level requirements.
    I agree, but at least when we got transferred to the v7 from 6 skill system those of us that worked on spamming so much weren't completely screwed over... Leveled my rm to lvl 80 and had every single skill maxed...

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    yes this is a great idea. back then flyff was much more fun. i remember noobs killing eron mobs thinking they get ton exp only to get none.little known fact before erons were used as fuel they use to be for upgradeing gear.

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    Re: Back to basics. Something not done before....

    Quote Originally Posted by GlaphanKing View Post
    Will do. The only real things are the NPCs that were removed from v7 like Valin, and the other NPCs who initiated the 1st Job Changes. I found a site that indexed them but their locations are not there.
    This should be all you need then Glaphan, hope it helps. If you need any other specific not-so-well-known info, do let me know as I have about everything you could think of, even experience tables up to I believe Lvl 150 as they were at V6 times.

    Also here's a link for Mediafire also where I'd uploaded it to, although I think the attachment below should be sufficient enough for most of you lol.

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/hgd1mgcd2hm/worldmap.gif
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