CSers/Donors

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Originally Posted by FtwHoly

It's all about opinions, and I'm not targeting your server with rude and ignorant comments, I was just expressing my opinion.

However I agree with GK. Buff pang somehow "killed" ringmaster.

If it were removed from the game would get much more fair.

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There is absolutely nothing more miserable in Flyff than stalking a grindwhore for 12 hours straight every day until the day you die to level up without any breaks. There is also nothing more fucking annoying than having to search for hours for a ringmaster and having a large chance of finding an unreliable one that leaves within seconds or doesn't know how to buff and heal you.

However, your statement is wrong. Ringmasters do have a purpose. Buff pangs can't heal or debuff or HC. Ringmasters can. Therefore Ringmasters have a purpose and they never died like you claim.

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Originally Posted by Adler

There is absolutely nothing more miserable in Flyff than stalking a grindwhore for 12 hours straight every day until the day you die to level up without any breaks. There is also nothing more fucking annoying than having to search for hours for a ringmaster and having a large chance of finding an unreliable one that leaves within seconds or doesn't know how to buff and heal you.

However, your statement is wrong. Ringmasters do have a purpose. Buff pangs can't heal or debuff or HC. Ringmasters can. Therefore Ringmasters have a purpose and they never died like you claim.

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Well that's my opinion, I remember when I still played in private servers, it was freaking hard to find a good ringmaster. Most of them equiped it to be a "BP". That's just...no words..

You buy gPotato @gpotato.com(credits)
With those credits you bought you be able to get cs items.

So buying gpotato's is NOT donating money.
You pay to get something.

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Originally Posted by Adler

However, your statement is wrong. Ringmasters do have a purpose. Buff pangs can't heal or debuff or HC. Ringmasters can. Therefore Ringmasters have a purpose and they never died like you claim.

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I think they mean ringmasters have a less role then they did before, before private servers introduced Buff Pang, Ringmaster's had a huge role and impact on leveling at low levels, now they really don't.

Basically, FlyFF's f2p model is horrible because you buy power directly, which is never a good idea for f2p games.
A good f2p game should have no things that give paying players unfair advantages, it should basically give players the option to improve their characters by still making them work for it a good bit and give f2p players alternatives to what the paying players have but has to do a bit more work.
A good example is League of Legends which has 2 currencies, basically one currency which you buy for real money and one currency which you earn in-game. Sometimes the earned currency is even easier to get than the paid one. There are also no differences to what you can buy with the currencies except that you can buy a bit more things with the earned currency than the paid.
That is what a good f2p model is.

When did this become a thread? Also please fix the fucking title. "CSer's" does not have an apostrophe...

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Originally Posted by FtwHoly

Well that's my opinion, I remember when I still played in private servers, it was freaking hard to find a good ringmaster. Most of them equiped it to be a "BP". That's just...no words..

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You can have an opinion, but I also have an opinion that your opinion is shit as well as bias and unexperienced. Try making a pserver without a buff pang or similar. I'd be surprised if it gets 25+ players on at any point in time.

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Originally Posted by xLethal

When did this become a thread? Also please fix the fucking title. "CSer's" does not have an apostrophe...

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http://forum.ragezone.com/6671315-post14.html

Its' the work of dell because honestly the topic was getting out of control as opposed to the original thread so he decided to split the thread off into this one.

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Originally Posted by GlaphanKing

Game's a f2p mmo so the more you pay the better you play. Even PServers do it. How you think they stay in business so long?

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Plenty of successful pservers (i dont know about FlyFF persay) but tons of them don't make you better the more you pay. You can get neat stuff for sale, but none of it is any better stats or convenience wise... The top L2 servers only sell decorative items... So no, not always.

If a private server is unfair it's usually due to the fact that you can donate for untradeable items. I've seen private servers sell CS set blessings and such which is 100% unfair and unbalanced. In fact, eFlyff seems to do the same too (extremely OP and retarded FWC CS sets, Untradeable Cloak of Bravery, etc).

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Originally Posted by Adler

If a private server is unfair it's usually due to the fact that you can donate for untradeable items. I've seen private servers sell CS set blessings and such which is 100% unfair and unbalanced. In fact, eFlyff seems to do the same too (extremely OP and retarded FWC CS sets, Untradeable Cloak of Bravery, etc).

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Well yeah they want money right?

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Originally Posted by Dell

Well yeah they want money right?

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You can make money without corruption.

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Originally Posted by Adler

You can make money without corruption.

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True but the easiest way to make money is through corruption.

Maybe they take examples from the real world? Who knows.

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Originally Posted by Dell

True but the easiest way to make money is through corruption.

Maybe they take examples from the real world? Who knows.

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But if caught, then that just fucks up your reputation as a company.

Actually a good example of a company who cares is Riot Games, they gave out CS points because they had a downtime period, as well as apologizing plenty of times on the forums. Their only Cash Shopable items are small boosts to your experience and their game currency, else it's visual. Being higher level gives no advantage ingame, because you will always be matched with players around the same level as yours.

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Originally Posted by Improved

But if caught, then that just fucks up your reputation as a company.

Actually a good example of a company who cares is Riot Games, they gave out CS points because they had a downtime period, as well as apologizing plenty of times on the forums. Their only Cash Shopable items are small boosts to your experience and their game currency, else it's visual. Being higher level gives no advantage ingame, because you will always be matched with players around the same level as yours.

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Which is why it's a gamble right? If you get caught early you make no money whereas if your caught later then you've at least made something.

Lot's of companies care too. I'd like to believe that Gala/Gpotato care too but are just listening to the wrong base.

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Originally Posted by Adler

There is no such thing as a "fair" F2P video game. You will never find one in your entire life that favors players as much as CS'ers.

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League of Legends.
Do I get a cookie? .o.

*Looks at 2post above*
Wow...you beat me.

However, this is the ONLY game as of right now that does not follow the "F2P" curse.

Another game which really disappointed me was Rakion. From the start, it was a simple F2P arena battle game with a very weak cash shop. You could buy premium weapons, cells (summons), and other equipment that would make your character stronger.

This lead to their shop becoming immensely over-powered where anybody who spends 5 dollars would become dominant over other players of the same level. Needless to say, I quit because I wouldn't want to be sucked into that kind of game.

Skill =/= Money