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  1. #16
    Game Developer MisterKid is offline
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    @Hells

    Where is my money? :( I helped my several times
    I also told you about your website exploit ones you got lucky I was so kind to tell that.

    Since you pay developers :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterKid View Post
    @Hells

    Where is my money? :( I helped my several times
    I also told you about your website exploit ones you got lucky I was so kind to tell that.

    Since you pay developers :/
    Give me your paypal i`ll send you 50$ for your trouble :)
    and did i not pay you for the work you done on that instance? i gotta say i had some trouble with it and had to fix client crashes people had with client on your map but in the end i still use it and its pretty nice place to farm :)

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    Don't steal eh? 10 seconds on the net search, funny thing is you even told the person later that you told the developer to goto their server to steal it lol. There's ton's of it online to, imagine that however i'll be kind and only post one so i don't crush your poor little orphan feelings.

    Code:
    http://www. elite pvpers .com/forum/flyff-p
    server-guides-releases/2195017-release-g
    low-system-4.html#post20857012
    I also am a C++ coder and have helped quite a bit with a source that has been released here actually called LTD. Item defines and hard coded defines are totally different things, then again you have a intelligence level of about a 5 year old.

    The only reason your server is online is because of false advertisement, gullible pinoy's and moron's like yourself as well as theft. I wouldn't be overly proud of that accomplishment.

    I am done responding here, honestly a low life scumbag like you who continues to get a free pass from developers will eventually come to a end. Also ragezone is far from little in readers, it does have a bigger base then well 98% of the sites in the same scene. Get a clue space cadet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiance View Post
    Don't steal eh? 10 seconds on the net search, funny thing is you even told the person later that you told the developer to goto their server to steal it lol. There's ton's of it online to, imagine that however i'll be kind and only post one so i don't crush your poor little orphan feelings.

    Code:
    http://www. elite pvpers .com/forum/flyff-p
    server-guides-releases/2195017-release-g
    low-system-4.html#post20857012
    I also am a C++ coder and have helped quite a bit with a source that has been released here actually called LTD. Item defines and hard coded defines are totally different things, then again you have a intelligence level of about a 5 year old.

    The only reason your server is online is because of false advertisement, gullible pinoy's and moron's like yourself as well as theft. I wouldn't be overly proud of that accomplishment.

    I am done responding here, honestly a low life scumbag like you who continues to get a free pass from developers will eventually come to a end. Also ragezone is far from little in readers, it does have a bigger base then well 98% of the sites in the same scene. Get a clue space cadet.
    I paid jopsi for his glow system way before he released anything related to it, people can ask him and he will confirm.
    WOW you helped at the source called LTD ?!?!?
    with what ? with source fixes from my old source that i shared with you and ended up releasing at public forums to "get revenge" on me ?


    The only reason my server is online is because of bla bla bla... what ?!
    Wow is you such an expert at why servers are online and at the top on top voting sites how come your server DONT EXIST ?
    Smart ass.

    I am glad you stop responding here because you only talk junk, just like Mootie you guys are all TALK no PROOF.



    and for the ending :
    Screenshot by Lightshot
    If you look at the release date of that shit, 23-10-2012 and do some research you will notice insanity had the glow system months before that release.
    Now look at this :
    http://prntscr.com/rc71r
    August 2012 that means 2 months before jopsi public release.

    Please get lost.

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    Why can't people just play fair and get along? These pesky conflicts with eventually be the downfall to all our hard work to give FlyFF a good developing environment.

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    Not to mention you started your own server with my hard worked source
    Not 'your' source. It was his. He started fresh and fixed all those v16 errors you had.

    You work for Defiance/ with Defiance nothing more to say.
    Which logic states that 'if one works for someone' that one is not entitled to the freedom of thought, speech and other features given from life. Which logic states that it is gone? Well, guess what, it isn't. If I wanted, I could quit and go to a different server seeing how I was offered other jobs at other servers. However, in my web of thoughts, working
    for a server is not just about money and it is about more. I'm probably the only one that thinks like so.

    Defiance is one of the only people I can trust through the internet with anything, including banking information, which is one of the reasons I work for him. If I made the newest and best feature of FlyFF, it wouldn't be released or resold.

    Honestly, if I could have, I would have already made my own server (Wouldn't have many players, considering it'd be really low rate, grind, different, and playing to win based which not a lot of people are interested in). However, I can not do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    unlike you and you 1 month lasting server with my full files back in that day.
    You gave me a few months of struggle with your escapade but look who survived in the end you thief.
    'his' files. Not yours. And, don't you think you're getting very defensive. I mean, you just blatantly started flaming in the thread (didn't quote said part) and soon may have started a flame war. Why would one do that instead of simply talk about their thoughts, like this thread is SUPPOSED TO BE.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mootie
    I request you to post your opinion on Hells and his administration
    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    Defiance:
    Still need money for food for your children you lier ?
    You disgust me... you wonder why your server did not survive even if you used my files? its because you are a thief and greedy person Defiance and on top of all a LIER.
    He does have three children, I have seen and heard them. Do you need money from all of your donators for your old girlfriend that is 'sick' like you have said sometime in the pass. 'Romania has a universal healthcare system. The access to healthcare is guaranteed by Article 34 in the Constitution of Romania, which states that the state is obliged "to guarantee the sheltering of healthcare".[1]'(Wikipedia) Sure, there was a bill that have came to the political system, but it didn't pass obviously.

    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    The only reason my server is online is because of bla bla bla... what ?!
    Wow is you such an expert at why servers are online and at the top on top voting sites how come your server DONT EXIST ?
    1.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie
    2.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie. V20 isn't even out on anything. Only thing close is the Castle shit.
    3.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie.
    4.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie. Two + glow systems were released; other servers have them implemented. Including: Perin Conversion, Auction House, Party Finder, Unique Awake System scrolls, Baruna Systems, Instant Upgrading... Well, all actually.

    Next thing you'll say would be like "FLYFF2 FEATURES" before it is even released.

    Oh, and Screenshot by Lightshot . You didn't see the post, did you.




    My opinion on your administration is quite terrible. 1.) You have no professionalism. People can see that by the way you type and come across through the internet and the way you manage the server. In fact, last time I was on Insanity, one of your staff members managed donations and many other things, while you were constantly away for the whole week. 2.) You only care for money. <- Your prices of everything that needs to be donated for. Items only acquirable through donations. 3.) You simply, can not really be trusted. <- Comes from everyone's opinions on every site and the constant lies you tell to people. Including the lies on your advertisements that get you those players. Who knows, some things could have been really true.

    And that is my, Opinion. Not anyone else, just mine. Also, it may be different if I actually worked with you, and some of the stuff that I may have said maybe is not true, but from other peoples mouths in the community. I have seen some screenshots in the past, however. But, my opinion as it stands, is not good.

    Also, stop the flaming and maybe communicate without the use of cuss words or calling people orphans. < Saying that to everyone as this is not for flaming purposes. And now I comprehend why Mootie has said
    I'm done though... You obviously won't listen to reason or even read my posts, so I give up. Enjoy your success, for what it's worth.
    And Siles is correct. Sadly to say, if none of us acted like 12 year olds in a sandbox, the developing environment would be, much better.
    Last edited by Fenris; 02-02-13 at 10:50 PM.

  7. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Not 'your' source. It was his. He started fresh and fixed all those v16 errors you had.


    Which logic states that 'if one works for someone' that one is not entitled to the freedom of thought, speech and other features given from life. Which logic states that it is gone? Well, guess what, it isn't. If I wanted, I could quit and go to a different server seeing how I was offered other jobs at other servers. However, in my web of thoughts, working
    for a server is not just about money and it is about more. I'm probably the only one that thinks like so.

    Defiance is one of the only people I can trust through the internet with anything, including banking information, which is one of the reasons I work for him. If I made the newest and best feature of FlyFF, it wouldn't be released or resold.

    Honestly, if I could have, I would have already made my own server (Wouldn't have many players, considering it'd be really low rate, grind, different, and playing to win based which not a lot of people are interested in). However, I can not do so.



    'his' files. Not yours. And, don't you think you're getting very defensive. I mean, you just blatantly started flaming in the thread (didn't quote said part) and soon may have started a flame war. Why would one do that instead of simply talk about their thoughts, like this thread is SUPPOSED TO BE.



    He does have three children, I have seen and heard them. Do you need money from all of your donators for your old girlfriend that is 'sick' like you have said sometime in the pass. 'Romania has a universal healthcare system. The access to healthcare is guaranteed by Article 34 in the Constitution of Romania, which states that the state is obliged "to guarantee the sheltering of healthcare".[1]'(Wikipedia) Sure, there was a bill that have came to the political system, but it didn't pass obviously.



    1.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie
    2.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie. V20 isn't even out on anything. Only thing close is the Castle shit.
    3.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie.
    4.) Screenshot by Lightshot <- Lie. Two + glow systems were released; other servers have them implemented. Including: Perin Conversion, Auction House, Party Finder, Unique Awake System scrolls, Baruna Systems, Instant Upgrading... Well, all actually.

    Next thing you'll say would be like "FLYFF2 FEATURES" before it is even released.

    Oh, and Screenshot by Lightshot . You didn't see the post, did you.




    My opinion on your administration is quite terrible. 1.) You have no professionalism. People can see that by the way you type and come across through the internet and the way you manage the server. In fact, last time I was on Insanity, one of your staff members managed donations and many other things, while you were constantly away for the whole week. 2.) You only care for money. <- Your prices of everything that needs to be donated for. Items only acquirable through donations. 3.) You simply, can not really be trusted. <- Comes from everyone's opinions on every site and the constant lies you tell to people. Including the lies on your advertisements that get you those players. Who knows, some things could have been really true.

    And that is my, Opinion. Not anyone else, just mine. Also, it may be different if I actually worked with you, and some of the stuff that I may have said maybe is not true, but from other peoples mouths in the community. I have seen some screenshots in the past, however. But, my opinion as it stands, is not good.

    Also, stop the flaming and maybe communicate without the use of cuss words or calling people orphans. < Saying that to everyone as this is not for flaming purposes. And now I comprehend why Mootie has said

    And Siles is correct. Sadly to say, if none of us acted like 12 year olds in a sandbox, the developing environment would be, much better.
    Trust me its much more my source then it ever was his, the shit he provided was released all over the net and the fixes i paid for the c++ programmers made the source usable and he ran away with it and started his own server, then released it.
    Thief,Lier and Greedy , this 3 words describe Defiance.
    And i don`t think he be interested in the 10-20 dollars you have in your bank account and i`m sure if he'd see a lot of money he`d become all ass kissing and shit to get some of it.

    And stop talking me about getting defensive and flaming and shit , i clearly was minding my own business when you mob started this flame war against me.



    How can you be so stupid to quite some wiki shit about Romania, are you that of a caveman ? lol... you talk about things that are WAY beyond you.
    See me talk about your country health care system and shit lol ? jessus christ child, get some sense into you.


    About those screenshots :
    player count? multi server does not get updated properly on my server database so it stays at "1" meaning the player count only goes bigger and bigger until i manually reset it.
    The actually player count of InsanityFlyFF is 500-1200 players online daily, believe it or not i don`t care, we even had 2400 players online in 2011.
    V20, because we got many custom systems that eflyff dont have on v19 so its just a way of advertisement , if people like it or not that is their choice.
    No lag : u say lie ? what you live in vietman or some shit or why do you lag ?
    Proof : Screenshot by Lightshot
    Bla bla bla systems? yeah a lot of servers got a lot of systems, who cares who has what ? good for all of them for all i care.




    Your opinion about my administration is irrelevant for me, i run things my way and my way seems to work and the proof is that i am nr.1 at this point and until some1 can pass that please mind your own business.

    InsanityFlyFF closed and open over the time due to the attacks/problems against us and yet here i stand again on the top, i can make 1 step behind and i still won`t fall at nr.2 position because i am a fighter and i fight for my server.
    Unlike Mootie who closed MonsterFlyFF and open Aether they don`t benefit from the same success they had in the past , while i managed more then once to become at the first position again after being in the shit hole.


    And mind your facts , i never called Defiance an orphan , he did call me, read :
    "Originally Posted by Defiance
    Don't steal eh? 10 seconds on the net search, funny thing is you even told the person later that you told the developer to goto their server to steal it lol. There's ton's of it online to, imagine that however i'll be kind and only post one so i don't crush your poor little orphan feelings."
    Last edited by HellsBlade; 02-02-13 at 11:08 PM.

  8. #23
    Not working on UnitedFlyf Mootie is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    Unlike Mootie who closed MonsterFlyFF and open Aether they don`t benefit from the same success they had in the past , while i managed more then once to become at the first position again after being in the shit hole.
    I started Monster/Demon Flyff fresh 3 times and regained #1 each time from zero within months. Aether is a different case, seeing as the head administrator never has ran a private server before and I wasn't able to help for the first 2 months. Prior to Monster/Demon's shutdown, you only were first when Monster/Demon was under DDoS attack(by you nonetheless). Note that FlyForHero also maintains its position close to yours, even though it hasn't been updated or promoted actively for over a year now.

    See a pattern? Old servers don't die easily, regardless of how poorly they're run. InsanityFlyff has proven this many times.

    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    No lag : u say lie ? what you live in vietman or some shit or why do you lag ?
    Proof : Screenshot by Lightshot
    Have you even played on your own servers? The position lag is horrid regardless of where you live. Server specs won't help if your networking code is broken(more than v15 clean mind you). Also, network speed is more important than RAM/CPU to reduce latency in most cases.

    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    I am glad you stop responding here because you only talk junk, just like Mootie you guys are all TALK no PROOF.
    "Proof" can be forged, and your "proof" is completely irrelevant to what you're trying to prove. Maybe if you would actually read other people's posts instead of posting unrelated nonsense, you wouldn't come off as such an idiot. I understand how you only care about proof, considering what a horrible person you are. You'd say anything to get your way, regardless of if it's true or not.
    Last edited by Mootie; 03-02-13 at 01:45 AM.

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    i`m tired of all this stuff :)

    take care, hope u guys find some thing more useful to do then to harass me in all my posts


    all the best :P

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    Since this is going on and on and on, it's time to throw my hat in the ring.

    I've been working with Hells for ages.

    ~ He always payed out the full amount of money.

    Thats for sure.

    True is, he also asks for unrelated fixes, but i haven't seen any law against that yet.

    All you'd have to do as a developer is to say "no" or "pay me for it".
    I did a hell of a lot fixes for Insanity without getting paid with cash, that's for sure, but i rarely did stuff rly for free.

    I was allowed to use the code i coded for him.
    I had a Admin account on Insanity.

    And i got other gifts for doing extra work.

    Hells was ALWAYS on time with his money, while i have to claim , i haven't always been on time with my codes due to personal problems.

    He always paid enough so i could live from it.


    I can't say that either of one of you are bad persons.

    Mootie and Hells , you both helped me a lotta times and i'm thankful for that.

    This scene is rough , dirty and everybody is trying not to drown in the sick deep shit that we're all swimming in.

    And i ain't the guy to not understanding this.
    Last edited by kmc11; 05-02-13 at 04:04 PM.

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    Not working on UnitedFlyf Mootie is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmc11 View Post
    Since this is going on and on and on, it's time to throw my hat in the ring.

    I've been working with Hells for ages.

    ~ He always payed out the full amount of money.

    Thats for sure.

    True is, he also asks for unrelated fixes, but i haven't seen any law against that yet.

    All you'd have to do as a developer is to say "no" or "pay me for it".
    I did a hell of a lot fixes for Insanity without getting paid with cash, that's for sure, but i rarely did stuff rly for free.

    I was allowed to use the code i coded for him.
    I had a Admin account on Insanity.

    And i got other gifts for doing extra work.

    Hells was ALWAYS on time with his money, while i have to claim , i haven't always been on time with my codes due to personal problems.

    He always paid enough so i could live from it.


    I can't say that either of one of you are bad persons.

    Mootie and Hells , you both helped me a lotta times and i'm thankful for that.

    This scene is rough , dirty and everybody is trying not to drown in the sick deep shit that we're all swimming in.

    And i ain't the guy to not understanding this.
    I'm aware that he is honest with some developers. I've heard a few devs say positive things about working with him, but I've heard far more complaints than compliments. I'm not trying to say he scams every developer he hires, but there's always a large risk involved when working for someone like him. Since Hells is frequently advertising in attempt to find more developers, I think it's only fair that they're aware of the past.

    Now regarding the complaints I've heard... I've worked a long time in the scene and the only complaints I've heard(from any developers in the scene) are from developers that were (very) dissatisfied with his employment. I'm not the best manager, but at least I always pay what I commit to regardless of if I use it or not. I've paid probably upward of $4k total(over the years) for work that I ended up not needing to use. If the developer does the work you requested, you pay them accordingly. Hells doesn't seem to understand that, as we've seen in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mootie View Post
    I'm aware that he is honest with some developers. I've heard a few devs say positive things about working with him, but I've heard far more complaints than compliments. I'm not trying to say he scams every developer he hires, but there's always a large risk involved when working for someone like him. Since Hells is frequently advertising in attempt to find more developers, I think it's only fair that they're aware of the past.

    Now regarding the complaints I've heard... I've worked a long time in the scene and the only complaints I've heard(from any developers in the scene) are from developers that were (very) dissatisfied with his employment. I'm not the best manager, but at least I always pay what I commit to regardless of if I use it or not. I've paid probably upward of $4k total(over the years) for work that I ended up not needing to use. If the developer does the work you requested, you pay them accordingly. Hells doesn't seem to understand that, as we've seen in the past.
    I only have new dev search topics because i am searching for new programmer talents in flyff scene :)
    if i find some1 or not it does not affect me either way :D

    all this hate and anger in this topic bores me ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    I only have new dev search topics because i am searching for new programmer talents in flyff scene :)
    if i find some1 or not it does not affect me either way :D

    all this hate and anger in this topic bores me ...
    Okay, so then you don't mind if RaGEZONE mods delete all of your advert topics? ^^

    I'm not trying to affect you... I don't give a fuck about you, as I've explained multiple times. I'm trying to stop you from negatively affecting developers that you hire and usually scam.

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    I cleaned up a lot of posts in this topic. I'm leaving this topic up so you can all sort out your differences (as well as addressing a public issue regarding developers), but if this topic gets too severe again, I'll be forced to close it and hand out even more infractions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    I only have new dev search topics because i am searching for new programmer talents in flyff scene :)
    if i find some1 or not it does not affect me either way :D

    all this hate and anger in this topic bores me ...
    Quote Originally Posted by HellsBlade View Post
    i`m tired of all this stuff :)

    take care, hope u guys find some thing more useful to do then to harass me in all my posts


    all the best :P
    And still you are here. If this topic bores you, stop responding and leave.



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