My personal take on the source

[Dell Honne]

Sadly...

Thats the reason we don't get development threads, eh?

People steal the work and sell it with some pre-fixes.
People intend to create "CMS" and such, but limited versions so people with big pockets can buy it.

Not ONE decent website with a decent security.

Why? People want money for it.

When it comes to the game content, its worse. Besides the WorldServer with 200 levelcap and working summon, then theres never been released decent things to improve or help the gameplay.

Now where the source is leaked I don't see why its bad for the development, but a step forward.

We all know the past, sucked due to people leeching development...

I've been told by people from the other sections that yes, we're very selfish in this section. When people made something, we didn't come with suggestion, but flaming for no-good since we didn't think that it beated another version released.

I'm not an angel myself, but i really think, us all, need to turn down the "I BE PR0 4 U". Just to help this section go up instead of down.

Like, in last week somebody made and released an antihack. Instead of saying what it missed, then people said it was use-less.

What I'm trying to say is, i think we're scaring the developers away. By flaming them they wont continue the development when all they are going to hear is that their work, which they used alot of time on, just simply sucks and they should trash it.

I hope everyone see my point.

This is pretty much the truth in a nutshell. Not to mention were all paranoid about leechers.

[404]

People are paranoid, because their work gets stolen, re-credited, repacked and released.

[ZuminaSpanky]

People are paranoid, because their work gets stolen, re-credited, repacked and released.

The source is made by gala and not by anyone in the flyff community.

So, why are people so selfish to leech off of the server? We all create private servers and name ourselves "Flyff X Server". In reality, we are almost all leaching, even if its using 1% of their work or 99% of their work. No matter how we try to look at it and angle the camera, the project is still the same.

We all do these projects to learn, live, and forget misery (I hope). We all go about saying how we "could be great IF". IF is now, we are all living where we CAN do something. Even if it takes some of us two weeks, two months, or two years. We are working on perfecting the game that we love (I hope).

Everyone knew the inevitable that we wished forever to do, and now we can do it.

Everyone believes flyff is dead, because its an excuse for the reality, "Well I don't give a damn about flyff anymore!"

In today's world, if you create something which exceeds expectation, you'll always have customers and hopefully a community.

My two cents.

[Mootie]

Sure, do the RageFlyff thing...It will die as fast as it starts. Some half assed ragezone devs can't make decent and secured games. Money talks, not a lame forum. xd

[Dell Honne]

Why are we talking about demonflyff now? Mootie is right though, a RageFlyFF wouldn't really work out.

Lets go back to talking about the source and the section again. It's hard to see a community emulator happening if you ask me. Lack of trust is a big contribution to why a community emu might never happen. (Time to bring out the trust games? Lol)

[Adler]

Source > Emulator
Coding an emulator is completely pointless with the source, there's no way in hell a group of some criminal teenagers constantly QQ'ing about everything and stealing from each other will code something worth more than what Aeonsoft has created.

[Dell Honne]

Source > Emulator
Coding an emulator is completely pointless with the source, there's no way in hell a group of some criminal teenagers constantly QQ'ing about everything and stealing from each other will code something worth more than what Aeonsoft has created.

Well there you go. A criminal would never miss a chance to stab another criminal in the back. That kind of reminds me about when people used to just DoS servers off the internet, or hack them.

I guess a community project on coding the source code would be out of the question as well.

[Adler]

Well there you go. A criminal would never miss a chance to stab another criminal in the back. That kind of reminds me about when people used to just DoS servers off the internet, or hack them.

I guess a community project on coding the source code would be out of the question as well.

I'm sure people could group together for a group project related to the source code, I'm just saying it's wiser to build upon the source code than code an emu from scratch for stability reasons and the fact that the source code can never be competed with.

[Blackbox]

Source > Emulator
Coding an emulator is completely pointless with the source, there's no way in hell a group of some criminal teenagers constantly QQ'ing about everything and stealing from each other will code something worth more than what Aeonsoft has created.

And emulator imo, would still be better. I mean, look how far osA got without the original eflyff source. They have one kick-ass emulator, that's almost damn near perfect for what features it has. Now with the source out, they can get the right formulas and make it even that much better. Emulators, are also a hell of a lot lighter weight in terms of resources. And to achieve that with the officials it'd probablyy take a full re-write of most of the base. Plus, if you code your own emulator, it isn't a far cry to convert it into a completely different game. And be the next big thing out there. A lot of people have some kick-ass ideas for how to make this game better and more unique, there's just no one making it happen. And even if it did happen and you used to official source to make a different game out of flyff, then it would still be flyff.

You have the client files, you have the patcher files, you have the server files, more than enough knowledge to start building your own emulator and that later could evolve into a completely different game once it's built.

Plus on a legal standpoint, it's one less thing you have to worry about if GalaLabs decides to come after source users now.

[Denichu]

^That.

[FlowTM]

Source > Emulator
Coding an emulator is completely pointless with the source, there's no way in hell a group of some criminal teenagers constantly QQ'ing about everything and stealing from each other will code something worth more than what Aeonsoft has created.

Emulators > Source if you have the experience to seriously develop a fully working, professional emulator.

Sorry but, there's never gonna be a time where we know the official source inside out, but if you made an emulator, you'd know exactly where everything is, exactly how to change xyz. Therefore yes, it's much better. But yeah it's finding someone professional and with the experience to do something like that.

Around here, just not gonna happen.

[Improved]

Emulators > Source if you have the experience to seriously develop a fully working, professional emulator.

Sorry but, there's never gonna be a time where we know the official source inside out, but if you made an emulator, you'd know exactly where everything is, exactly how to change xyz. Therefore yes, it's much better. But yeah it's finding someone professional and with the experience to do something like that.

Around here, just not gonna happen.

We'll see, the source might bring attention since we dosen't have them banned.

[FlowTM]

We'll see, the source might bring attention since we dosen't have them banned.

But then no-one actually knows the source inside out, and it's impossible to know it as much as the real developers. Common sense.

Ofcourse it brings attention, but most attention will simply be random retards who'll post 50 help threads within the first few hours of introducing themselves.

[Improved]

But then no-one actually knows the source inside out, and it's impossible to know it as much as the real developers. Common sense.

Ofcourse it brings attention, but most attention will simply be random retards who'll post 50 help threads within the first few hours of introducing themselves.

As I said, we'll see. A lot of devs from other sections might find it intresting.

[FlowTM]

As I said, we'll see. A lot of devs from other sections might find it intresting.

You need FlyFF experience to make something of it. It's not all about how well you can code.

Too bad it's still the case with FlyFF experience too, barely anyone here knows the game well enough to make even the official binaries any good. Proof? Look at the servers. And look at the most populated ones too, they're not good servers at all, in fact most of them are seriously retarded. :x Just my opinion.