Emulators > Source if you have the experience to seriously develop a fully working, professional emulator.Originally Posted by Adler
Sorry but, there's never gonna be a time where we know the official source inside out, but if you made an emulator, you'd know exactly where everything is, exactly how to change xyz. Therefore yes, it's much better. But yeah it's finding someone professional and with the experience to do something like that.
Around here, just not gonna happen.
We'll see, the source might bring attention since we dosen't have them banned.
But then no-one actually knows the source inside out, and it's impossible to know it as much as the real developers. Common sense.
Ofcourse it brings attention, but most attention will simply be random retards who'll post 50 help threads within the first few hours of introducing themselves.
As I said, we'll see. A lot of devs from other sections might find it intresting.
You need FlyFF experience to make something of it. It's not all about how well you can code.
Too bad it's still the case with FlyFF experience too, barely anyone here knows the game well enough to make even the official binaries any good. Proof? Look at the servers. And look at the most populated ones too, they're not good servers at all, in fact most of them are seriously retarded. :x Just my opinion.
True, most server owners probably never reached master at official.
That's irrelevant. That master/hero system was a mistake. I know more than most eFlyFF hero's. I didn't play past V11 on eFlyFF.
It's more about how long you have taken proper INTEREST in the game, what development you have seen from Aeonsoft over the years and what you know about their ideas, their files and how they work. What everything does/means. The experience of the actual game actually comes from old versions. New versions are too simple to be properly thought about. Sure there's more systems to double click a scroll to do this, that and the other. But it's still a lot more simple. Trust me.
Demon and Celestia got decent coders.
What now? People have the source, no ideas, they don't know how to use it("leechers")? Flyff dev section will still dead. lol
So I think source won't help flyff section at all
You will only see more servers lol
And ascension
Last edited by FtwHoly; 07-10-10 at 10:12 PM.
Give it a while and see if any of the servers improve. You can't expect anyone to master the official source code in a week. It's always hard to read someone else's code and make good sense of it than it is to write your own code. And mixing the two can be even more of a bitch sometimes.What now? People have the source, no ideas, they don't know how to use it("leechers")? Flyff dev section will still dead. lol
So I think source won't help flyff section at all
yes ofc :P but only 10% of this community will understand how to use it :) some people can't even set up a server lol
... or simply 50% dosen't want to share the work since they're still afraid of leechers.yes ofc :P but only 10% of this community will understand how to use it :) some people can't even set up a server lol
Have they? One or two maybe? And Celestia, in my opinion just not decent enough to be called decent... At all.
Ascension on the other hand should be listed here. They also have someone experienced with FlyFF, unlike Demon/Celestia. No, they really don't have experienced-with-FlyFF staff. As I mentioned before, you need both to make a good server.
I sound like a complete asshole, but i'm just telling you my true opinion, there's just no point in hiding true opinions on this community anymore. :/
There's nobody here that will ever be able to top the official source, and if there is, they'll soon leave to a professional job due to their advanced experience. Knowing an emulator inside and out doesn't make it better and more stable, it's just easier to read.
Exactly, and makes it easier to edit and manipulate without causing too much trouble. That was my point.
You really overestimate the source Daz. It's not THAT great. And osA has already come damn close to being better and just as stable.
It just seems safer and more stable to me, either that or I just like how it works with MSSQL more. Emulators though probably won't ever have features that the source has such as switching between versions by defining it, etc. Oh and since the Neuz source is out isn't it possible to recode it as well?
Fuck...I thought you actually knew shit till now. osA was a joke...If you look at the code and compare it, its no where NEAR the quality of the official source.
And quality of code is not what is being compared, but functionality. Of course the quality of code from professional developers of most likely 5-10 years + is going to beat the quality of code from someone learning it for what? maybe 1-2 years? If osA were given the time that flyff has been around to develop, then I'd put money on it that it would turn out better.
