[Show] Project: Awakening (Flyff Web Dev)

[heartbeat]

What this project is about:
Basically, this web development is targetted at servers without any graphic artists or servers with 12 year olds kids claiming they are graphic artists; either way these complications may lead to potential flyff players not joining your community as many people check the quality of the teams work before joining a private gaming server. Anyways as i'm too lazy to explain further, i'll summarise...
Frankly, i think the free CMS for flyff are badly designed but i'm just expressing my view so... flaming is not necessary.

Web Development: Codename: Awakening

Sorry for my lame ideas for names but you'll have to deal with it.
Awakening Project is not going to be a CMS since i'm too lazy to make it easier for edit and i'm not really going to focus on usability or functionality but it will be definitely be open source and PSD may be included so you can recode it if you wish.
The reason I am making it open source is because this design isnt really that good, since i've just recently returned to web developing and i made this to revisit my designing and web programming knowledge.

What is this topic about?
This topic isn't about releasing the files since i haven't finished programming it yet, well i haven't started at all
I've only been roaming around the flyff section for like a day and i have noticed there are various types of server files that people use and my guess would be the database structures would be different too therefore before i start developing this website, i want to know which server files are most used or which server files do YOU want it created for.



Incomplete webdesign, the content area will be revised and maybe the banner by moving the images of the mages further left and placing a script which checks if the servers are online and how many players are online.

*NOTE: it's not coded yet and tbh i'd rather give it to 1 server rather than everyone but meh w/e.

[MentaL]

[Blackbox]

If you designed this from scratch with no outside sources then I say you got a good eye for web design ;)

Flashy, yet simple.
And easy on the eyes.

[heartbeat]

well.
the magicians, or w/e they're called in flyff and other fanart are obviously not made by me.. hence classed as an external source?
as well as the image rotating area of the website is based on a free jquery script you can download, i just incorporated it into my design ;x

so... may i ask which server files are most commonly used?

[Masius]

I love the design mate. I myself suck at Designing, that's why I just add a few CSS tweaks and a banner. Good luck with that project ;)

[Garvorious]

It's pretty.

[N1ghtSp33D]

I must say that I like the design.

[perrin9028]

Right now, there isn't really a set files that people use, some use Rune, other OsA, others Rhisis, or Glaphan's v6, or official/fame/caali, and others are waiting for Morpheus. Easier just to pick one of them (Rune/OsA/Glaphan's/Morpheus are in my opinion the best choices). Might want to go with OsA so that it's easier to transition to Morpheus once it's reached an initial stage at which it could be released to the public. Also, FlyFF wizard people are called Magicians.

[zaviex]

perrin nice to see you here

but i disagree the official files are now out and allowed here... Most people will be using that =/ (like it or not) so if you want your site (very nice btw) to reach the most people Id say official files even though i dont personally like them

[Johnatan28]

It's beatyfull :$

It will be released in a future time?

[heartbeat]

thanks for filling me in perrin xD
glad to know people actually bother to read what i posted x]

anyways yeah when i've finished designing and coding it, i release it as open source including the PSD so you can make necessary changes
btw would people prefer me to code it for the OsA db, e.g. ranking etc or
leave it as a xhtml&css and let you web developers import your code into it?

[MatreX]

heartbeat, how good are you with php?
I could really use someone like you who is good with design, xhtml, and css because I HATE it and I cant make a good design to save my life. PHP on the other hand I LOVE and, althought I'm still learning I am getting decent at it.
I've recently been working on a object oriented user control panel type website but the design has been slowing me down a lot.


How would you like to work together?

[heathj]

nice design, sleek and simple i like it, quite origional too imo

[heartbeat]

well this project is just for educational purposes (for myself)
to improve my web designing and programming skills; currently i'm just revisiting the xhtml&css and the php is just an addition to it so i wouldn't midn if we worked together; in fact it would be great since i'll be revising php soon after.
MatreX there may be a few complications if we worked together though as we probably live in very different timezones and another factor would be i have a huge amount of work since i've got college aswell as my personal life as well as a marketing company that me adn my friends are creating.
However i could probably get this project coded in 1-2days(xhtml+css) and leave the rest for you; well i would like to speak with you first since i like to get to know people i work with x3

[MatreX]

do you have msn messenger?

[heartbeat]

yeah thats the only messenging software i have x]
yahoo, aim, etc sucks *rolleyes*
i don't really like posting my contact details since
the last time i did it, i had too many random people add me ;x
can you pm me with your msn ;3

[Liem]

Whoa, that looks really nice.

Simple, but nice.

That's the kind of stuff I personally like. As for files, I'm not too sure how this whole file situation is going to end up.

[ikenna1]

wow the desing you have alot of talent

[perrin9028]

Personally, it would be easier if you left it attuned to OsA for now, it's easy enough to change a website to a different database of a different emulator. Unless I'm mistaken (Which I most likely am >.<), most of the current emulators run on MySQL instead of MsSQL, in which case, changing the website would only detail modifying configuration files to conform to the database of the emulator.

Just wondering by the way, does your website include sessions and cookies? If so, it might be nice to have to have a few different CSS styles that changed the overall color of the website. Like it's got cool colors (Cool as in the art term), and a user could login which starts a session and adds cookies to his/her browser and then they could either press a button within an array or an option from a drop-down menu which would change the CSS file of the page to conform to the user's option. I'm sorry if that's not very clear and if it confuses you, I can provide examples of it in both an array of buttons and a drop-down menu. Since I'm not the best at any particular coding whatsoever, I haven't the faintest clue as to how one would go about creating it, so you're on your own there.

[Mootie]

Personally, it would be easier if you left it attuned to OsA for now, it's easy enough to change a website to a different database of a different emulator. Unless I'm mistaken (Which I most likely am >.<), most of the current emulators run on MySQL instead of MsSQL, in which case, changing the website would only detail modifying configuration files to conform to the database of the emulator.

Just wondering by the way, does your website include sessions and cookies? If so, it might be nice to have to have a few different CSS styles that changed the overall color of the website. Like it's got cool colors (Cool as in the art term), and a user could login which starts a session and adds cookies to his/her browser and then they could either press a button within an array or an option from a drop-down menu which would change the CSS file of the page to conform to the user's option. I'm sorry if that's not very clear and if it confuses you, I can provide examples of it in both an array of buttons and a drop-down menu. Since I'm not the best at any particular coding whatsoever, I haven't the faintest clue as to how one would go about creating it, so you're on your own there.

On my first week of coding php I coded a mssql gunz site to a flyff mysql one. Then I coverted it back to mssql for official files in about 30minutes. It ain't hard.

[perrin9028]

On my first week of coding php I coded a mssql gunz site to a flyff mysql one. Then I coverted it back to mssql for official files in about 30minutes. It ain't hard.

Good for you? I know for a fact that it's hard for people to refrain from bragging, posting irrelevant comments, and imposing a blatant disregard of the skills, if you may, of the people he/she may talk to. As of such, thank you for sharing and perhaps you could contribute to this project once heartbeat releases it open source, however, it would certainly be nice if you could post useful items, such as offering to help, or suggestions, or just plain flattery which is almost never ill received.

[Liem]

Good for you? I know for a fact that it's hard for people to refrain from bragging, posting irrelevant comments, and imposing a blatant disregard of the skills, if you may, of the people he/she may talk to. As of such, thank you for sharing and perhaps you could contribute to this project once heartbeat releases it open source, however, it would certainly be nice if you could post useful items, such as offering to help, or suggestions, or just plain flattery which is almost never ill received.

Owch, well said, without flaming in that as well.

Anyhow, I think mootie was trying to say (In his own special way), that it wouldn't be dificult for heart to convert it for mssql and mysql databases.

Of course, it would've been nice if it had been worded differently. But that's just my opinion.

[BBim]

I think all emulators(rune, morpheus, osA and rhisis) work on a similar way(mysql, one database, one table for account with a field for name, another for pass using a salt for md5, and so on). Basing on that, I think it wouldnt be a big problem to make it with a config file where you choose table and field names, even the md5 salt.

Creating your own sql class, would probably make it possible to have one class for mysql and another for mssql, with same functions name. So to make it work for officials would need to check how is the db structure, but I think its possible.
(Maybe at the db class create function named register and depending on the class(mysql or mssql) it makes on one way)

So I think its possible to make it work for every file :P

[Mootie]

Good for you? I know for a fact that it's hard for people to refrain from bragging, posting irrelevant comments, and imposing a blatant disregard of the skills, if you may, of the people he/she may talk to. As of such, thank you for sharing and perhaps you could contribute to this project once heartbeat releases it open source, however, it would certainly be nice if you could post useful items, such as offering to help, or suggestions, or just plain flattery which is almost never ill received.

The point of the post was, do not discourage use of different databases, especially when you do not know what you are talking about. I didn't mean to brag, only explain that it is not hard to code in PHP, nor is it hard to switch a few queries around to make it compatible with mssql.

[Masius]

I think all emulators(rune, morpheus, OSA and rhisis) work on a similar way(mysql, one database, one table for account with a field for name, another for pass using a salt for md5, and so on). Basing on that, I think it wouldnt be a big problem to make it with a config file where you choose table and field names, even the md5 salt.

Creating your own sql class, would probably make it possible to have one class for mysql and another for mssql, with same functions name. So to make it work for officials would need to check how is the db structure, but I think its possible.
(Maybe at the db class create function named register and depending on the class(mysql or mssql) it makes on one way)

So I think its possible to make it work for every file :P

following the easy way, a switch function could easy cover this aspect. We'd only need a variable to be changed (for example $ServerType = RuneFlyff (or Osa, Or official, etc)) in order to run it and simply do the switch function. (switch($serverType) { case RuneFlyff: declare functions here break; }) could be done.. I've used multiple variables while making a multi-support website, which kinda slows down the processes, but I'm always looking for faster and simple ways of working around my files.
@OP PHP's simple, you just need to get the hang of it.. I myself suck at designing, totally. I'm looking further on this aspect in order to improve myself.
WebDesigning/Developing is fascinating :p

[MatreX]

Oh, aren't you all soo smart! ^^

Perin is talking about different themes that would be available on users request, per user. Can be done, might be done, but should be something that gets attention once the rest of the websites completed.
Thank you for the idea though, I'll keep it in mind.

As for the database situation, What will probably happen is we'll start with the most popular or most playable and later expand to allow a choice of emulators through a configuration file.


The fame files are out of the question, for a few reasons: One, I prefer my PHP with MySQL due to the new MySQL_improved feature in PHP5. Two, I'm not familiar with MSSQL and am not ready to move away from learning the MySQLi class, because I love it. :P Three, I believe the Fame files should be used for packet sniffing and all that good stuff those emulator dev's could use it for, not used as a good private server.


P.S. OOPHP is the way to go.

What I meant to say is:

I'll be working on the php part while heartbeat does the rest. Now, before your guys start talking about Multiple website themes and Multiple supported emulators lets answer heartbeat's main question; "i want to know which server files are most used or which server files do YOU want it created for."

Soo... "which server files are most used"? or "which server files do YOU want it created for"?

I'm high....