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    Ace of Hearts Reimniess is offline
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    so you have the source now what?

    I've notice how people were getting so excited over the source being leaked but in all honesty what do you all even expect to accomplish with it


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    Infraction Banned BGxApixen is offline
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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    There was already a discussion about this, wasn't there? The discussion Dell made?

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reimniess View Post
    I've notice how people were getting so excited over the source being leaked but in all honesty what do you all even expect to accomplish with it
    Well, what else can you accomplish with a dead section with no emulators?

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by BGxApixen View Post
    There was already a discussion about this, wasn't there? The discussion Dell made?
    well this is slightly different, and with any luck people have cooled down a little

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    I got alot of projects spinning I've been working with for a month now.

    New jobs, v16 binaries, remove the map cap, maybe a packet filter on the neuz for client sided injections, and then later on .res encryption when i take c++ lessons and with my new coder...

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    Ace of Hearts Reimniess is offline
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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinija View Post
    Well, what else can you accomplish with a dead section with no emulators?
    I don't consider it dead, however I don't think the source being released was the best direction for the section

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reimniess View Post
    I don't consider it dead, however I don't think the source being released was the best direction for the section
    Don't call it dead yet. I don't like my projects being open, but if it's going to get devs off the couch i might make them open.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Improved View Post
    Don't call it dead yet. I don't like my projects being open, but if it's going to get devs off the couch i might make them open.
    This section need a jump start in the 'open source' area again. Too many 'devs' got pissy when people took an interest to their projects and made it closed source. I mean really, you have to expect for something like that to happen and you can't just get mad and ruin it for everyone because one person got on your bad side.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbox View Post
    This section need a jump start in the 'open source' area again. Too many 'devs' got pissy when people took an interest to their projects and made it closed source. I mean really, you have to expect for something like that to happen and you can't just get mad and ruin it for everyone because one person got on your bad side.
    You cannot make this formula work, it will collapse due to one of many possibilities. Having a big pserver makes 20-30k a month. Open Source game development doesn't work for MMOs because of this. I'd be happy to do an OS project if there were any decent devs that worked for free(none). Ragezone's flyff section is fucked for good now. The victory is ours :>.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by mootie View Post
    You cannot make this formula work, it will collapse due to one of many possibilities. Having a big pserver makes 20-30k a month. Open Source game development doesn't work for MMOs because of this. I'd be happy to do an OS project if there were any decent devs that worked for free(none). Ragezone's flyff section is fucked for good now. The victory is ours :>.
    That's so true...

    *sadfais*

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by mootie View Post
    You cannot make this formula work, it will collapse due to one of many possibilities. Having a big pserver makes 20-30k a month. Open Source game development doesn't work for MMOs because of this. I'd be happy to do an OS project if there were any decent devs that worked for free(none). Ragezone's flyff section is fucked for good now. The victory is ours :>.
    And that's the attitude that makes this section dead/dying. Everything today is just "me me me me me and me" It should not be just about running the server.
    Last edited by Blackbox; 04-10-10 at 05:10 PM.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbox View Post
    And that's the attitude that makes this section dead/dying. Everything today is just "me me me me me and me" It should not be just about running the server.
    Every newcomers in the flyff section isn't here to develop, but to make a server they can earn money on...

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Improved View Post
    Every newcomers in the flyff section isn't here to develop, but to make a server they can earn money on...
    and if they want to earn good money from it, they need to learn how to develop.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dell Honne View Post
    and if they want to earn good money from it, they need to learn how to develop.
    Precisely.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dell Honne View Post
    and if they want to earn good money from it, they need to learn how to develop.
    Look on Insanity...

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dell Honne View Post
    and if they want to earn good money from it, they need to learn how to develop.
    Nah, there are servers who throw a shit load of stuff and people still get the lulz/fun out of it. Most players aren't inspectors and doesn't look at every feature, mostly they just wanna get to a high level

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinija View Post
    Nah, there are servers who throw a shit load of stuff and people still get the lulz/fun out of it. Most players aren't inspectors and doesn't look at every feature, mostly they just wanna get to a high level
    GOGOGO x9999999999999 EXP RATES!!!<333

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    I say people can finally see what it takes to develop a server. I have yet to check it out, and quite honestly I'm both disappointed and relieved at the same time.

    Relieved that everyone can shut up about how to develop servers, etc. But that will never happen.

    Disappointed in the fact that a source is out there and every noob in their basement will start making terrible servers, again.

    However, this will give me an excuse to come back to flyff. I've been sitting on an idea from the beginning anyway, so maybe this will be a good thing.

    and before anyone asks, I had to kill off myself for a while but, like the phoenix, I have returned. Not as a moderator, but as one of you. simple. leave it at that.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by GlaphanKing View Post
    I say people can finally see what it takes to develop a server. I have yet to check it out, and quite honestly I'm both disappointed and relieved at the same time.

    Relieved that everyone can shut up about how to develop servers, etc. But that will never happen.

    Disappointed in the fact that a source is out there and every noob in their basement will start making terrible servers, again.

    However, this will give me an excuse to come back to flyff. I've been sitting on an idea from the beginning anyway, so maybe this will be a good thing.

    and before anyone asks, I had to kill off myself for a while but, like the phoenix, I have returned. Not as a moderator, but as one of you. simple. leave it at that.
    :), Glad to see you back here.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    OK. downloaded and unpacked. Looked it over. Shocked!

    If I'm not mistaken, the code for the Neuz.exe file is there in plain site. This gives me an idea.

    Since this is written in DX mostly, I may be able to rewrite the code entirely to make an entire new game based on it.

    So if what I see is true, you may be able to play flyff offline on the xbox 360, perhaps.

    right now I'm looking over the code for importing the models and textures.

    See you later maybe with some results of my labor.


    btw, Shinija, love the sig. makes me laugh every time.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Quote Originally Posted by GlaphanKing View Post
    OK. downloaded and unpacked. Looked it over. Shocked!

    If I'm not mistaken, the code for the Neuz.exe file is there in plain site. This gives me an idea.

    Since this is written in DX mostly, I may be able to rewrite the code entirely to make an entire new game based on it.

    So if what I see is true, you may be able to play flyff offline on the xbox 360, perhaps.

    right now I'm looking over the code for importing the models and textures.

    See you later maybe with some results of my labor.


    btw, Shinija, love the sig. makes me laugh every time.
    welcome back glaphan good to see you you around again =)

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    Ace of Hearts Reimniess is offline
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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    welcome back glaphan, and yeah... I cant agree more on the releived and disappointed part

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    Why do I feel like it's my fault the stuff got released.

    like geez, starting to feel uncomfortable now.

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    Alpha Member GlaphanKing is offline
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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    there is nothing wrong with that.

    all I was saying is its great we can see inside our favorite mmo game. however, we will start seeing a billion threads and pms asking how to complile, how to decipher, and how to set this up.

    It comes with the territory. I just hope people are a little more sophisticated than before.

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    Re: so you have the source now what?

    OSNAP, It's GlaphenKing...

    Don't worry Glaphen. I've gotten like 4 infractions D:.

    Welcome back. ;D



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