I'm curious / my POINT

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    I'm curious / my POINT

    So,,, I decided for shits and giggles to go ahead and update my official PWi, and to log just to see if any of my old 'friends' were online...

    I am really REALLY curious /// I hear something of an expansion soon to come,,, well my curiosity and my point is:

    HOW THE F#CK can they have an expansion coming when they FAIL SO HARD they don't even have the snowmen/snow on (like they are supposed to and normally do) !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Because they are doing as they have always done, push the new and forget the failures. They assume quantity out weighs quality, that is why there will always be pservers.

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    some info about new expansion skills
    Spoiler:

    Human
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    Blademaster
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    God punish tactics: 12sec aoe skill, deal base +200% weapon +2500-6500(depends on that soulforce) every 3sec, anti stun, sealed. 5min/3sparks


    Riding in Purple Dust: Instantly teleport to the target, paralyzing it (not stun) for 3 sec, deal 50% base atk physical dmg, deal triple dmg when target has less than 40% HP. 15meter/2min/50chi


    Red Dragon cable: drag your target infront of u , success rate 40%-100%(SF) 25meter / 2min / 50chi


    Tianyuan reversal:available when ur hp lower than 40%, deal base+200%+7200 dmg to all enemies 12meters in a line in front of u, 75% stun them for 3sec. 2min


    Qiankun (meaning heaven and earth) Throw: disable the weapon of you and all enemies 8meters around for 3sec, deal base+100%+3500 dmg.


    Tai Xu God Slayer: 12sec zhen skill, deal base +200% weapon +5000-11000(depends on that soulforce>>) every 3sec, anti stun, sealed.also decrease targets movement speed by 30%. 5min/3sparks

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    Wizard
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    Reversal space-time tactics: curse ur target, his position will reset back to this point in 6sec, sucess rate 40%-80%(SF) 30meter/ 1min/50chi


    Reversal HP tactics: curse ur target, his HP will reset back to this point in 6sec, sucess rate 40%-80%(SF) 30meter/ 1min/50chi


    Guardian of sand: self buff, last 15min, decrease the change of getting crit attack by 5%.


    Arcane Light: self buff, last 5min, each time u get hit by melee normal attack, u will be knocked away 20meters and will be purified. effect has 16sec cooldown. 1min/30chi


    Ice World: has 67% chance freeze all enemies 12meters around for 2sec every 3second, last 9sec. enemies take 130% dmg if frozen. 3min / 2sparks


    Dark flame: debuff your target, each time he gets hit by any attack, he will be paralysed for 3sec, effect has 8sec cooldown,last 45sec. 30meter/ 1.5min/1spark


    Tai Xu Reversal space-time tactics / Reversal HP tactics: 60%-100% chance. 30meter/ 1min/50chi


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    Winged Elves
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    Archer
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    lightening strike: attack range+6, crit rate of next 4-8 hits(SF) incrased by 15%, 20sec. 2spark


    Left leap / Right leap:20meters.


    Silence: Stealth! 50mp/sec, moving, using Wings of Grace, or sparking will kick u out of stealth.


    Sunset arrow: attack target and all enemies 8meters around, base+250% weapon + 1500 dmg, decrease their hp recovery by 20% , pot 30%, increase charm cooldown by 3sec. 1spark


    BrightShadow arrow: seal all targets in a 25meters line for 3sec, deal base+100%weapon + 3200dmg. 1spark


    Tian yu lightening strike: attack range+6, crit rate of next 5-9 hits(SF) incrased by 25%, 30sec. 2spark

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    Cleric
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    Purple Night Dance: Transform into metal mage mode!!! unable to heal, max hp decrease by 10%, increase 40%-80% weapon dmg. 15chi

    Ray meditation: available in transformation mode, stop your target hp recovery(and charm recovery) by 15%base atk + 675HP. can be stacked to max 2000-18000HP(SF),last 30sec. 18sec cooldown.

    Aurora Magic Ray: available in metal mage mode, AOE version of Ray meditation.

    Arc ray of disease: debuff ur target, increase the chance of taking crit dmg by 15%.

    Sincere: give ur target Deaden Nerves buff, recover 50% hp when taking effect, last 8sec.

    The blessing of the gods: no exp lose upon death.

    Tianyin thunderstorm symbol: metal mage version of soul burn! debuff ur target , each time he try to atk or use skill, he has 30% chance take phy dmg equal to ur magic atk. last 1min. 50chi

    Tian Yu Purple Night Dance: Transform into metal mage mode!!! unable to heal, increase 60%-100% weapon dmg. 15chi

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    Untamed
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    Barbarian
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    Dragon extinct: only usable on the ground, atk target and all enemies 20meters around him, deal 50% base atk dmg, has 50%-90% chance to disable their fly mount, deal triple dmg to air targets. 1min/2spark

    Fighting Rake: force your target to target on u and cannot switch target for 6sec.only available to players. 1spark

    Immortal soul: self buff, last 120s, once taken deadly hit, u wont die, and will be immune to dmg for 6sec, but during this 6sec , ur hp is decreased by 99%.(if you are taking some DoT dmg, ) 1spark

    Prehistoric blood: self buff, 60sec, each time u take hit, your attack is increased by 3% weapon value, can be stacked at most 50 times. 1spark

    Crown-less King: deal base +100% +1200 dmg to all targets 12meters in a frontal line, attract aggro.

    Yan Mie Dragon extinct: only usable on the ground, atk target and all enemies 20meters around him, deal 120% base atk dmg, has 60%-100% chance to disable their fly mount, deal triple dmg to air targets. 2spark

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    Venomancer
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    Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 50% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark

    Yaoqi hit: fox form skill, turn your target into a little frog, the frog can only use normal atk(5.0aps frog?), last 6sec. 27meter/1min/50chi

    Dance: both veno and pet anti stun for 10sec, increase pet atk and acc by 100%. 3min/1spark, pet must be in range of 35meters.

    Nether Spirit of Fire: new reflect buff, available in pvp , reduce dmg recieve by 30%, reflect back 100% phy atk, 15sec. 1min/1spark

    vigor break: fox form skill, decrease target chi by 150. melee/30sec/25chi

    Yan Mie Lock soul scarab: summon a doll which is linked to your target, whenever this doll takes hit by magic atk, your target will recieve 100% dmg, this doll will slow down your target by 30%, last 12-28sec(SF). 28.5meter/2min/2spark

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    Tideborn
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    Pychic
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    Wraith escape: make all squad members 6 meters around unable to be selected, last 3.5-7.5sec (depends on your soulforce) 5min/3sparks

    source of evil: buff your target, you will absorb all damage and debuffs from your target, max range 45meters.

    embryo of the soul: make your target immune to dmg, recover 100% hp, stun himself for 10sec. (not rl stun, u cant immune it.) 28.5meter/3min/2spark

    Wind rocks buried: curse ur target , your target will take damge = base atk +130% weapon + 6475 after 12sec.

    summon: right click on a squad member on the squad list and choose summon, the skill will teleport him to u. 10sec cooldown

    Yan Fu Wraith escape: make all squad members 12 meters around unable to be selected, last 5-9sec (depends on your soulforce) 5min/spark

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    Assassin
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    Resurrection burial: curse your target, your target will absorb 15%-35%(depends on ur SF) damage you take from others for 10sec, effect doesnt work if your target attack u. 2spark

    solar eclipse: AOE stealth, yo, 12meters , max 5seconds. 2min/1spark

    investigate: make u able to check other players' inventory.

    Lose a Thousand Pieces of Gold (literal translation, meaning giving up wealth): debuff your target, make him drop coins upon death. the amount of coins depends on your target's lvl.(. lol, my mage 105..)

    Toxic dagger: 10 meters frontal aoe, base dmg + 9300 poison dmg over 30sec.

    Yan Fu Resurrection burial: curse your target, your target will absorb 20%-60%(depends on ur SF) damage you take from others for 15sec, effect doesnt work if your target attack u. 2spark

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    Earthguard
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    Seeker
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    Jianming Yuan: summon a pet, 30sec, the ability of pet depends on ur SF.
    2spark

    Translocation tactic: exchange position of u and ur target, sucess rate depends on ur SF, 40%-100%.


    Broken kettle tactic: decrease defence(can be purified or transfered) by 40%, increase atk = 50% defence lvl decreased. 50chi


    3rd eye: increase detection lvl by 31 for 8sec(means u can see sins at your lvl)


    Heart of sword: 12meters aoe, base atk + 3681, recover 20% hp, attract agro from mobs.


    Fan Xin Jianming Yuan: summon a pet, 60sec, the ability of pet depends on ur SF.
    2spark
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    Mystic
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    Star prairie: absorb 15%-35%(depends on SF) of targets revover ability(healing, charm) for 15sec 2spark

    Flowers blinding: new AOE buff, increase skill damage to mobs by 20%, last 30min.

    3rd eye: detect if there r stealth targets around u, and knock out all stealth targets 26meters around u, last 6sec.

    Rejuvenation of all things: AOE rez buff-.-

    Moist: AOE buff, incrase healing effect by 20%, pot effect 30%, last 30min.

    Color Blossoms fans: AOE heal, heal 25% of base atk+ 783HP, every3 sec, last 12sec. 1spark

    Fan Xin Star prairie: absorb 20%-40%(depends on SF) of targets revover ability(healing, charm) for 40sec 2spark



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    Iv been chatting with a developper lately, and got some info about new class skills.
    Here,i just list some skills that have been confirmed.

    the new gears will be PvE gears, with special attributes against mobs.



    after the expansion, your charactor can join one of the 3 forces: shadow, light , dark night, whatever they are called>.>
    each force has their unique skills for every class. you can easily learn the skills from the force u joined. if u want to learn skills from other forces, u need to get contribution/reputation points form those forces and trade for skill books.
    well, at the end, u can learn all the new skills anyway, but it takes time, so choose ur force carefully.


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    [B]aSH nofxpunkerbrian is offline
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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    They have a lot of players still, in the 10,000's yeah they're not all 100% active but still they have a lot of players, the company alone rakes in a big bank yeah they have a few games but you name other than JD, FW and PW a big spending game, the rest are all dolly gagging crap.

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    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled! michel100 is offline
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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Yeah well those new skills for all classes are a start but what I really would like to see is all the original classes (and maybe a few of the original maps) getting a total makeover. Unlike a lot of people I don't believe the new classes are overpowered I just think the old classes need to be redone a bit to keep them up to date. Anyway looking at chinese logic (or asian in general) after darkness comes light so maybe the next expansion pack after this one will bring some interesting things.

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    Apprentice Lozera is offline
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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    They don't have snowmen because Frankieraye claims that:

    From what I understand, the snowmen were retaliating against magical attacks with their own AoEs, which were doing substantial damage.


    They've been removed while we investigate why they were changed in the first place.
    Unfortunately the only snowmen we are able to spawn at this time are of the horrifying-killer variety, and the devs are unable to modify them in time for Christmas.


    So for this year, we'll have to stick with snow but no snowmen. However be on the lookout for our Christmas event, running from December 22nd - December 26th!


    Also, from what I understand, there is a high chance of precipitation next week, so keep your eyes peeled :)
    Of course if this was true, snowmen would not only be a more epic event, it would so totally make west arch the place best ever.

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    Viva la Vida NaMeLeS is offline
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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    It was true, the CN peoPle must have changed the snowmen, they were in west arch for a bit wtfowning the catshops from what I hear.

    Why PWI couldnt just chane them to normal snowmwen themselves in 5 mins, I have no idea
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    Member Allisandre is offline
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    Yeah apparently they tried to apply the snowmen after the last pact and ran into a major error....

    The snowmen aggroed on everything and did massive AoE poison damage that was in the same damage range as those damn hands and balls in TT.

    And since this turned Archoaur's into a noxious gas of hell, they had to turn them off again.

    Got to love a company that fails so bad it can't make simple fixes to bugs that are at least 4 years old already.

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Precisely -- a simple change in elements.data I could teach an ape to do it for them, no 'dev' needed //facepalm

    Add:
    That was my same effing problem with the whole thing over PK/flying in SP

    SERIOUSLY -- we needed to wait weeks/months for the PvP enabled to be disabled and flying in SP WHY, when it was a simple one liner in GS.CONF ~~ they REALLY needed a 'dev' to change ONE LITTLE THING in GS.CONF [LIMIT = NOFLY; & CID = 0,2,13] OMFG that was hard...

    COMON' ALREADY!

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Isn't it obvious by now?
    The only things pwe knows how to do is edit the cash shop and that's it; the rest of the day is spent making sure servers are plugged in and eating pizzas while watching their players qq and ragequit.

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Well, technically I think there is a logical explanation for it. Sadly I still don't agree with it. It has to do with the fact that PWE just 'rents/leases' PW (they didn't make it themselves) -- so even if they knew how to do it -- there is probably some sort of legality stopping them from doing it :'( Very very say either way... I think no matter what they're paying PWB (Perfect World Beijing) they should have the rights to do anything they want to since they are the ones running it (PWE that is)... Put it this way; If I owned/ran PWE I would have probably already 'leaked' the shit due to discontent with the way everything is ran as a whole...

    Think of it like when you lease a car, you have a limited number of miles you can travel... Same between PWB and PWE, PWE has to pay up to PWB and PWB says what PWE can and cannot do with the 'game' =\

    Either way good reasons to leave and FIND A GAME THAT DOESN'T HAVE A "MIDDLE MAN" !!!

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    Black Magic Development das7002 is offline
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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    That isn't how it works. PWE is not a licensee. PWE is a wholly owned subsidiary of Wanmei. It technically isn't a middle man...

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Then why can't they do whatever they want; because they can't =\
    Otherwise why would they wait on "DEV" changes to come from CHINA =X

    no matter what it's a bad system.

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    even if it is a subsidiary, they still have rules set by the devs as to what they can and cannot do.

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    As far as i understand chinese politcs, their admin will lose its head when they even change a single pixel in the game without asking for permission from PWB.

    Thats how extreme socialism works in the end.. a big family with some fairly tight bondage stuff everywhere :D

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Was just thinking, can I just edit the trigger in NPCgen.data to make it so that the snowmen are on for the month without having to start it everytime I bring my server up?

    I'm still afraid to touch too much stuff there.

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    I don't think it is too big a deal because once you manually turn them on, you should have to manually turn them off (even after reboots/shutdowns)...

    Don't hold me to it though I haven't messed about with PW in a while =\

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    Angelemu founder tbnanubis is offline
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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Just start it and leave the Server running for some month, wheres the problem?
    My our personal uptime record for world map was around 4 month, before we decided to better not use the build-in 2x exp system and instead change rates and restart server.

    Btw, server shutdown means event stop, unless you set it to be always on, like the mail boxes (trigger 12 or 13). Look how their trigger is set up and copy that values :D

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    yeah, I could just do it manually, but then I take the server down to apply changes I've made to some of the files and when I bring it back up, I don't always remember to turn it back on. (At least I forget tell someone asks me where the hell the snowmen are!)

    That's why I was thinking, if I could set it to be on always, and the just turn that flag off when I'm done, it would save me trouble.

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    RaGEaholic crxfreak is offline
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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    The first "?" after name on the Triggers tab tells it to start when the server starts.

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    Re: I'm curious / my POINT

    Quote Originally Posted by 343 View Post
    I don't think it is too big a deal because once you manually turn them on, you should have to manually turn them off (even after reboots/shutdowns)...

    Don't hold me to it though I haven't messed about with PW in a while =\
    nothing holds after a restart without an npcgen.data edit



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