Re: NGN - Developers Wanted
*bursts in with a flame retardant vest*
renan stirred the pot of shit
others took sides
I defended them due to possible false accusation
renan gets backed up by Romulan, with a statement that is sterotypically true
insults* fly around
Drakaer tries to calm things down
shit flies everywhere
*or at least people think they were
Root cause of all of this mess?
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What? You ask people to make development in your gaming community and don't pay them?
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Nobody likes to loose time creating servers without win anything.
And he is not asking for help, he is asking developers. If you want to 'help' them, go ahead, I just gave my opinion about this.
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Yah, always the same history...
They post here, ask for a developer and don't offer anything.
And when we say it to them, they come with this stupid ignorance.
All due to some kid that decided to be over-zealous with stereotyping. It was honestly just an ask for help and that is how I saw it. They did admit they were aiming for a professional atmosphere, but I know rather well most professionals usually end up becoming close friends over time. In all honesty, I've always tried to assist people that ask kindly and use nice grammar and formatting which Heaven did. If you didn't want to help or just wanted to stir shit up (like renan did) you really shouldn't have said anything.
We are supposed to be a helpful community, doing things like this just tears us further apart with only small grasps to things we have in common. We weren't even this divided on the PW-France anticipation.
tl;dr don't cause a shitstorm and claim you didn't do it, or use only stereotypes as "factual" backups to your claims.
Edit: Damnit 343, I was hoping to get this in before you came around :<
Re: NGN - Developers Wanted
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343
If I had to take a wild guess, there is a misunderstanding here -- I think he understood that you never intended and insults toward him -- he was just letting you know he doesn't care who someone is that does insult him, he'll put em in their place (that's my 'take' on it)... Because he already "apologized for 'stooping to their level'"...
If it is just a misunderstanding then I'm find with that. Its just the way it was worded sounded like it was accusing me.
Btw nice vest das. All I have is an empty fire extinguisher :(
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Originally Posted by
Drakaer
If it is just a misunderstanding then I'm find with that. Its just the way it was worded sounded like it was accusing me.
Btw nice vest das. All I have is an empty fire extinguisher :(
/give Drakaer flamevest 1
/minecraft commands .-.
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das7002
/give Drakaer flamevest 1
/minecraft commands .-.
I cant use it. I don't have mine craft. Thanks anyway though. I guess next time there are fires Ill just have to throw my empty fire extinguisher at someone.
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Drakaer
I cant use it. I don't have mine craft. Thanks anyway though. I guess next time there are fires Ill just have to throw my empty fire extinguisher at someone.
I hear those cause roughly 618-793 physical damage :):
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Not very high APS though since they're so big and heavy. If I'm not mistaken the APS on that fire-extinguisher is only .91 APS :laugh:
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Originally Posted by
343
I hear those cause roughly 618-793 physical damage :):
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Not very high APS though since they're so big and heavy. If I'm not mistaken the APS on that fire-extinguisher is only .91 APS :laugh:
I edit my Fire Extiguisher in pwAdmin to turn it into "GM Fire Extinguisher". It now does 999999999 damage. I edit my gear to give me 5Aps. I am now imba >:)
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rbb138
Imo theres two types of servers.
For-fun servers that are open to working with other devs and enjoy their work alongside their players.
And wannabe "professional" servers that intend to open a server simply to promote themselves or make money.
A "professional server" looking for qualified developers generally offers money in return for their work as chances are the developer doesn't want to play in the game or like it.
A for-fun server with relaxed non-professional community normally has developers that also play the game and develop it because they like it. It's also a chance for them to showcase their work somewhere that it will be seen by alot of people, their friends included.
You really have to pick, you cant just post a thread demanding a "professional" developer without any reward.
If you choose to find a fun developer who doesn't have a full understanding of the game yet, then look to your friends or community.
I've worked with 3 members of deva community and eventually got them into the fun of making game updates with me simply by giving them links, answering questions and explaining how to do stuff. It takes some time but it can be much more rewarding. thats how i learnt PW after-all, eistiger and a few other devs answered my questions and helped me pick it up, i had no previous developing or linux knowledge and eventually started doing some dev work at a popular server i played with my friends.
I am not saying they should be paying developers and that nobody will work for free, the fact is if they want to go down that path then they need to be prepared to do all the stupid payment stuff that other "Professional" servers do. Which as you can probably tell by my tone of voice, i dislike.
I really do encourage developers to team up and work on updates, but "hiring" them for the job never really works in my experience. Get a friend and work with them.
I'm actually doing my server for both of these reason, my first main reason is because I got bored of seeing private servers where you kill one mob and bam, you're level 80 or 100, silly, no point playing, so I decided to make a slow rate server that has a nicer exp curve going up to 150 but still takes time to get there, not something that will be achieved over night or within a couple of weeks. I also want to add as many new things as possible so I can make the server more fun.
My second reason for wanting to run a server is because I need some cash, I recently lost my job and as I don't have a driving license getting another job close by is slim to none so I thought I'd put my energy into something that will get me by untill I can get a new job, obviously I will be reinvesting the bulk of the donations back into the server, upgrading it where it is needed, I've actually held some cash back from when I was fired so I can keep the server or 3 months without donations. A server with 16GB Ram and 100Mbps uplink.
I was thinking about running the server from home but with my uplink I could only support around 100 players, although I could upgrade and support up to 200 with a 10Mbps uplink O.o but another disadvatage would be the downloads of the client would interfere with the players connecting to the server and I think I'm gone into a ramble without realising :lol: I'll stop now before I write about 10 essays
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Either way any qualified developer who is looking to play the game for fun would just start their own server or join a server with a huge community.
At the end of the day this isn't going anywhere and we should let it die.
The only reason we now reached 3 pages is because of the ridiculous attempt to Demand qualified developers with no incentive, arguing won't fix that.
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rbb138
Either way any qualified developer who is looking to play the game for fun would just start their own server or join a server with a huge community.
At the end of the day this isn't going anywhere and we should let it die.
The only reason we now reached 3 pages is because of the ridiculous attempt to Demand qualified developers with no incentive, arguing won't fix that.
You still don't understand.
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Drakaer
Um what? Please tell me what I said that was insulting to you.
I said this
I don't see what is insulting about that at all. If you are offended by my post then I am sorry as it was never my intention but please tell me what was offensive.
I'm sorry Drakaer, that comment was not directed at you, I was simply stating, as 343 said, it was a general comment meaning "anyone who would insult me for no reason".
You, 343, das7002 and Twister are still on my good side. ;)
I've decided to keep things in the current NGN family, which is already quite large, but we are looking to hire on new staff here soon. Regardless one of our other developers that knows what they are doing since I've had them lend a helping hand before with something similar is helping out. (Plus side: I don't have to train anyone on how to modify the files, nor explain to them what I'm doing....)
Thank you guys, for understanding.
And 343, I haven't had the chance to work on an updated version of the Genesis interface. But I'll probably be working on it more next month after I get my next couple updates out.
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Originally Posted by
343
I hear those cause roughly 618-793 physical damage :):
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Not very high APS though since they're so big and heavy. If I'm not mistaken the APS on that fire-extinguisher is only .91 APS :laugh:
What about the helm of Disintegration?!
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