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    Valued Member teclis11 is offline
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    Problem with experience

    Hi im testing the server and i found another problem.

    The players lvl up at 5% of experience.

    Any ideas of how can i fix it?


    Thanks


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    RaGEZONER fgru is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    exp and sp are in /PWserver/gamed/ptemplate.conf

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    Valued Member teclis11 is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Thanks a lot man.

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    Nerd-IO Romulan is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Btw, i found a "bug" in the EXP table of HNG elements.data xD

    EXP Table of HNG file:
    Spoiler:


    EXP Table of PW International:
    Spoiler:



    You must fix both server and client elements.data !

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    Valued Member teclis11 is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Thanks

    ---------- Post added at 01:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 AM ----------

    Romulan , got u the link to download the editor you are unisg on the screen pls?

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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Btw, i found a "bug" in the EXP table of HNG elements.data xD

    EXP Table of HNG file:
    Spoiler:


    EXP Table of PW International:
    Spoiler:



    You must fix both server and client elements.data !
    i think visad made it more higher thant original PWI, so he doesn't need to change pftempelate again.

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    Re: Problem with experience

    can anyone send file from orig exp i want only change in other exp list not always change this

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    Nerd-IO Romulan is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragganta View Post
    can anyone send file from orig exp i want only change in other exp list not always change this
    Set the server rates in:
    Code:
    /PWServer/gamed/ptemplate.conf
    And adjust the exp table of your elements.data (server side) to match to the elements.data (PWI) !
    Spoiler:


    If you have the hrace server files of course or any HNG files releases!

    YOU ONLY NEED TO EDIT IT ONLY ONCE !

    You should not change this every time, it's not necessary!
    Last edited by Romulan; 16-04-10 at 11:25 PM.

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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Set the server rates in:
    Code:
    /PWServer/gamed/ptemplate.conf
    And adjust the exp table of your elements.data (server side) to match to the elements.data (PWI) !
    Spoiler:


    If you have the hrace server files of course or any HNG files releases!

    YOU ONLY NEED TO EDIT IT ONLY ONCE !

    You should not change this every time, it's not necessary!
    at my server i use from elements.data original PWI EXP, i only change the PET EXP

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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by hrace009 View Post
    at my server i use from elements.data original PWI EXP, i only change the PET EXP
    Me too

    But i wanna make some test...

    Do you know how to change the max lvl limit?

    Yeah, it's seems to be a noob question but i never worked on it before and the 'ptemplate.conf' seem to be bugged. I know that an another file must be edited but i don't remember wich file....

    Help me

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    SON OF MARFEL hrace009 is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Me too

    But i wanna make some test...

    Do you know how to change the max lvl limit?

    Yeah, it's seems to be a noob question but i never worked on it before and the 'ptemplate.conf' seem to be bugged. I know that an another file must be edited but i don't remember wich file....

    Help me
    i only change at first line like this:

    [GENERAL]
    logic_level_limit=109 you can change to 150
    ;allow_login_class_mask = 247
    allow_login_class_mask = 255

    just change number with blue text, but as i try max level is 150.
    but never try with 250 or 500

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    Nerd-IO Romulan is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by hrace009 View Post
    i only change at first line like this:

    [GENERAL]
    logic_level_limit=109 you can change to 150
    ;allow_login_class_mask = 247
    allow_login_class_mask = 255

    just change number with blue text, but as i try max level is 150.
    but never try with 250 or 500
    Even if i try to change to an upper number or a lower number, the lvl limit still at 150 ...

    I think that something must be edited somewhere in the elements.data but idk what xD (it's not the exp table... because i tried it)

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    SON OF MARFEL hrace009 is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Even if i try to change to an upper number or a lower number, the lvl limit still at 150 ...

    I think that something must be edited somewhere in the elements.data but idk what xD (it's not the exp table... because i tried it)
    hmmm strage... i only change those lines at my server, and those files from Beastie image that share by ronny.
    Last edited by hrace009; 17-04-10 at 04:33 PM.

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    Nerd-IO Romulan is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    It's odd 0.0 ....

    Cuz i'm using HNG server files too... from Visad

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    SON OF MARFEL hrace009 is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    hmmm no idea with visad server, i only use his client with beasti server

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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Btw, i found a "bug" in the EXP table of HNG elements.data xD

    EXP Table of HNG file:
    Spoiler:


    EXP Table of PW International:
    Spoiler:



    You must fix both server and client elements.data !

    I did this back on 3/12/2010 ;)

    The corrected ELEMENTS.DATA client and server side are located in my below post for download :)

    http://forum.ragezone.com/f452/hgn-f...ml#post5557577
    Last edited by 343; 20-04-10 at 02:00 AM.

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    Nerd-IO Romulan is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by 343 View Post
    I did this back on 3/12/2010 ;)

    The corrected ELEMENTS.DATA client and server side are located in my below post for download :)

    http://forum.ragezone.com/f452/hgn-f...ml#post5557577
    Thx, but i already fixed it

    I just said this for everyone that will ask the question...

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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Btw, i found a "bug" in the EXP table of HNG elements.data xD

    EXP Table of HNG file:
    Spoiler:


    EXP Table of PW International:
    Spoiler:



    You must fix both server and client elements.data !
    this is interesting that u noticed this. When i was playing on visad's server and chatting with him he had changed these tables on purpose to alter the xp flow. So its not really a bug but something he was playing with intentionally. I remember him talking about this.

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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Btw, i found a "bug" in the EXP table of HNG elements.data xD

    EXP Table of HNG file:
    Spoiler:


    EXP Table of PW International:
    Spoiler:



    You must fix both server and client elements.data !
    hey romulan 2 questions
    1. what is that tool you use to view the text files like that its pretty neat keeps it clean and seperated unlike the notepad.
    2. how is that xp chart yer comparing HNG to just the normal one from your server files?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Btw, i found a "bug" in the EXP table of HNG elements.data xD

    EXP Table of HNG file:
    Spoiler:


    EXP Table of PW International:
    Spoiler:



    You must fix both server and client elements.data !


    FYI... this is NOT a bug... as mentioned previously in the posts here, this was done intentionally. When I first arrived in the PW world, I found that the experience rates were hosed beyond believe. The teens and twenties shot by like they were nothing, the 90's crawled and post 100 was a terror to level, even on a x1500 server. When I looked I found that level 1-103 needed less experience combined then level 103-104 needed. These new experience rates were calculated using math, based on experience per mob at the specific level, a certain number of monsters to be killed at a specific level and more. In fact, almost 83 billion experience was removed from the game and it still remains a good experience rate. I do not have the files anymore that show my math formulas, but basically at the rates we had it would equate to the following. This of course changes based on the type of mob and other factors.

    Level 1 = 2 mobs to get to the next level
    Level 10 = 20 mobs to get to the next level
    Level 50 = 200 Mobs to get to the next level
    Level 149 = 2000 Mobs to get to the next level

    The Visad

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    Nerd-IO Romulan is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevisad View Post
    Level 1 = 2 mobs to get to the next level
    Level 10 = 20 mobs to get to the next level
    Level 50 = 200 Mobs to get to the next level
    Level 149 = 2000 Mobs to get to the next level

    The Visad
    Odd... because with your math formulas and with Rates X1 (like official)

    I must kill about 10 monsters to reach level1 to level2 ?! wtf ? XD

    So i changed it back to PWI exp table

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romulan View Post
    Odd... because with your math formulas and with Rates X1 (like official)

    I must kill about 10 monsters to reach level1 to level2 ?! wtf ? XD

    So i changed it back to PWI exp table
    Then you are screwing your players over. Level 1 - 99ish will level faster then my stuff, then leveling will stop at roughly 103. Look at the EXP charts that PWI has and it speaks for itself. 99ish it goes from needing 300k to level, to 600k, then 1100k, then 1300k, then 1750k for every level after that all the way to 150. Add up the required EXP for 1 - 102 and then see how much it resembles the amount needed for 103-104.

    At 1x the rates are slower for the lower levels and lot faster for the higher levels, with a steady pace all the way to 150, not a jack rabbit in the beginning and a wall at the end. It all scales correctly at the end and the player has to play a lot less to get to 150. PW experience is crap, it really is, they made it that way to stick it to the players.

    This was designed with two servers in mind, a 1x server and a 50x server. Both used the same rates, after 2 or 3 months of game play we had level 70 or 80's on the 1x server.

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    Re: Problem with experience

    Quote Originally Posted by thevisad View Post
    Then you are screwing your players over. Level 1 - 99ish will level faster then my stuff, then leveling will stop at roughly 103. Look at the EXP charts that PWI has and it speaks for itself. 99ish it goes from needing 300k to level, to 600k, then 1100k, then 1300k, then 1750k for every level after that all the way to 150. Add up the required EXP for 1 - 102 and then see how much it resembles the amount needed for 103-104.

    At 1x the rates are slower for the lower levels and lot faster for the higher levels, with a steady pace all the way to 150, not a jack rabbit in the beginning and a wall at the end. It all scales correctly at the end and the player has to play a lot less to get to 150. PW experience is crap, it really is, they made it that way to stick it to the players.

    This was designed with two servers in mind, a 1x server and a 50x server. Both used the same rates, after 2 or 3 months of game play we had level 70 or 80's on the 1x server.
    Just to throw in my $0.02 (even though it's not needed): The 'official' PWE exp tables are not 'crap' meant to 'stick it to the players'; and I do not think anyone who so decides to set up a private server based on 'official' tables are 'screwing their players over' either. Now, before you think I am insulting you, I am not; I think it is really cool that you took your time to calculate an alternative exp table that may balance out the leveling experience more evenly throughout the game.

    However, PWE has their 'official' EXP table set the way that they do so that not every player can become end-game level. Basically, in the 'official' game you have to prove your dedication to be able to make it to such a high level. Which I have to sit on this side of the fence, because I am sorry but, I do not want every Tom, Dick, and Harry being capable of having a lvl 105 character! Which by the way I think the 'official' games' hard level cap is set at 105 evidenced by the removal of FB 109 and the drop off of the exp table past 105. I think they just left themselves room for expandability in the future between 105 & 150 (which to my knowledge no one has even hit 105 yet in the 'official' PWI servers).

    So to sum it up, personally I am still on a quest to build/config a private server as close to the 'official' servers as I will ever be able to. Visad, Although I will most likely never personally implement it, I do appreciate and thank you for your hard work on your 'balanced out' exp table!

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    Nerd-IO Romulan is offline
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    Re: Problem with experience

    Hey, i have a noob question xD but never resolved here...

    How can I change the level limit?

    Because I tried few things like change EXP Table (elements.data) and the /ptemplate.conf from server

    But never with sucess, the level limit still at "150" !

    There is another file that must be edited?

    I tried "elements.data" both client and server side...

    I tried /ptemplate.conf from server side...

    Idk others files that can have an effect on the level limit...
    Last edited by Romulan; 29-04-10 at 02:03 PM.

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    Re: Problem with experience

    elements.data has up to lv 150 - i think you need more entries in the exp table :)
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    Last edited by fgru; 29-04-10 at 02:15 PM.



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