About releases and help etc..

[InsaneDev]

so guys i know this thread is nearly meaningless for some people but there is a problem
about Dev and server setup

people asking for help then sell the thing
here an example of what i just found about it
Prices - Developer Services

the guy is selling almost all free stuff:

Arabia Town (Baghdad)
125 Skills ( New Isro Skills)
Constantinople Fortress War
Add New Avatars ( One Avatar )
Fix any bug in server ( One Bug )
Add New Uniques ( One Unique )
Make a Full DB (with out baghdad or cons)
Add All New Isro Fellow Pets
Add Degree 14 Update ( weps/stones/etc)
Add New Npc ( One Npc )
Add/Remove Npc Items
Make a Full Security for Your pserver
Make New Quests ( One Quest )
Add New Media Pics ( luncher/logo/etc)
Add New Area's ( One Area )
More !
	
16$ ( Dollars )
14$ ( Dollars )
40$ ( Dollars )
4$  ( Dollars )
6$  ( Dollars )
7$  ( Dollars )
60$ ( Dollars )
16$ ( Dollars )
16$ ( Dollars )
6$  ( Dollars )
10$ ( Dollars )
16$ ( Dollars )
16$ ( Dollars )
16$ ( Dollars )
5  ( Dollars )
More !
	
100 جنيه ( Pounds )
80 جنيه  ( Pounds )
200 جنيه ( Pounds )
20 جنيه   ( Pounds )
25 جنيه   ( Pounds )
30 جنيه   ( Pounds )
350 جنيه ( Pounds )
100 جنيه ( Pounds )
100 جنيه ( Pounds )
30 جنيه  ( Pounds )
50 جنيه  ( Pounds )
100 جنيه ( Pounds )
100 جنيه ( Pounds )
100 جنيه ( Pounds )
25 جنيه  ( Pounds )
More !

here is another one

why is that?

if you wanna sell a thing create it by your own and never ask for help then sell
so i ask everybody has knowledge don't share serious stuff, don't help noob server owners for free, make it expensive so they learn not to sell people effort

this thread is open for discussion any flame will be reported

[MentaL]

[Madelyn]

Well .. Now me and the others do not help anyone else. Because for what? If they go avender our own work as them. Not for noobs.

[Caosfox]

wel, my point of view is "if you dont help, you dont deserve any help"
and i know i need help, so i must help all i can
i need shares, so i must share all i can

if someone sell my work.. like i care, some servers around have some of my jobs, and i dont care
im not making any money with sro, or even have a server. i simply like to work with the server files

[InsaneDev]

wel, my point of view is "if you dont help, you dont deserve any help"
and i know i need help, so i must help all i can
i need shares, so i must share all i can

if someone sell my work.. like i care, some servers around have some of my jobs, and i dont care
im not making any money with sro, or even have a server. i simply like to work with the server files

i was like you but i reached a point where i wanted to have a reason why i work or help
but i said NP then i found one or 2 of i helped or used somebody's shared materials to sell them so i said WTH
i will still help but ppl deserve help

[MGProjects]

some peoples only get things done here and sell for who no know make nothing

[RevoLand]

wel, my point of view is "if you dont help, you dont deserve any help"
and i know i need help, so i must help all i can
i need shares, so i must share all i can

if someone sell my work.. like i care, some servers around have some of my jobs, and i dont care
im not making any money with sro, or even have a server. i simply like to work with the server files

same here, i just get donated 2 times since 2011 and bet you don't have one.

[Caosfox]

im helping 2 servers right now for free (sadly one of the owners is always drunk and is never online to finish some quests...) when i feel like it (im a lazy, lazy person).
i dont have a server for that, lazy to make patchs, updates, etc (and tbh, im a gm on another game and is tiring the "please plvl" "please free items" and bla bla bla...)

SRO was the first mmorpg game i played, so is more like a nostalgic thing more than a money thing.
i dont want sro section fades away like iris section (i loved that game), by some players keeping for himself the gm_client(special client to do gm duties) and ofc, sadly nothing much to do.

in other words.. im going to leech releases / request help? yes.. a lot!
but then i must release/help too.

and i agree 100% about what insane say "people must deserve it"

is like: someone release 1 avatar (one of the most easy things to add, if no file is missing) and then you get a post saying "please share db and client"

omg.. how lazy you must be to ask for a full db + client for only 1 avatar? normaly it ends on my ignore list

[LoCker]

i didn't release anything i guess maybe shared some crazy ideas but that doesn't mean that i'm selfish or even aim to money
absolutely not , if i aim for money i have many perfect databases for all released server files beside the modules that i fixed as well i even got many seduced offers for JSRO DB (old school files that i think none want them anymore) that i have but i didn't sell either share for public maybe few persons you know
what's the point ?
even for a novice there are a lot of releases and guides till April 2012 IDK when vsro 1.193 been released
they have everything ready to use and with upcoming updates from joymax like avatars and new pets bla bla bla they can do in 1h without the need to even think
so they are lazy to do such newbie stuffs then they doesn't deserve to own servers
before , they would pay anything to have server files any cash , now they have everything for free so why you should share more ! while newbies sell your work ?

[InsaneDev]

i didn't release anything i guess maybe shared some crazy ideas but that doesn't mean that i'm selfish or even aim to money
absolutely not , if i aim for money i have many perfect databases for all released server files beside the modules that i fixed as well i even got many seduced offers for JSRO DB (old school files that i think none want them anymore) that i have but i didn't sell either share for public maybe few persons you know
what's the point ?
even for a novice there are a lot of releases and guides till April 2012 IDK when vsro 1.193 been released
they have everything ready to use and with upcoming updates from joymax like avatars and new pets bla bla bla they can do in 1h without the need to even think
so they are lazy to do such newbie stuffs then they doesn't deserve to own servers
before , they would pay anything to have server files any cash , now they have everything for free so why you should share more ! while newbies sell your work ?

that's in perfect community which we don't have

[saxz]

well this all is easy to make
try to make diff and hard stuff
like a new map
making the new avatars work
make a new payment
make full arabia system which no one did it until now
make jupiter full system which no one did it until now
.etc

[LoCker]

well this all is easy to make
try to make diff and hard stuff
like a new map
making the new avatars work
make a new payment
make full arabia system which no one did it until now
make jupiter full system which no one did it until now
.etc

read thread carefully he's like wondering about those people who sell (free releases from here or w/e) for money
so that's a point for all the member to stop release precious things that's all dude
and i really wonder of what you're saying about arabia and jupiter you buddy are really so funny xD
P.S regions are the easiest thing ever of what you mentioned above cause new map = Graphic Designer but will take a huge amount of time to create an entire town with their monsters maybe a year (less or more IDK)
and stuff such as new pet system, new payment device, new event, new bla bla bla they need a real work (debugging) with some easy work on pk2's

[saxz]

read thread carefully he's like wondering about those people who sell (free releases from here or w/e) for money
so that's a point for all the member to stop release precious things that's all dude
and i really wonder of what you're saying about arabia and jupiter you buddy are really so funny xD
P.S regions are the easiest thing ever of what you mentioned above cause new map = Graphic Designer but will take a huge amount of time to create an entire town with their monsters maybe a year (less or more IDK)
and stuff such as new pet system, new payment device, new event, new bla bla bla they need a real work (debugging) with some easy work on pk2's

that's call dev
not db edit lol

[Madelyn]

I have the solution but its will hard..
1º Who sell or do anything with our files that sais who make it? (Credits)
2º The resellers never die.. (We need be reallist)
3º Will be nice if exist a Section only for Experts.. Who have minimun X Likes and X Post can enter only.. (Will be a nice idea)
4º Not help to who sell our projects..

What u think guys? Its nice or not?
(Answer with +1 or -1 for avoid the Spam)

[nemo07]

All the topic in one word " SRO community is Dead " :(

[RevoLand]

I have the solution but its will hard..
1º Who sell or do anything with our files that sais who make it? (Credits)
2º The resellers never die.. (We need be reallist)
3º Will be nice if exist a Section only for Experts.. Who have minimun X Likes and X Post can enter only.. (Will be a nice idea)
4º Not help to who sell our projects..

What u think guys? Its nice or not?
(Answer with +1 or -1 for avoid the Spam)

It's not possible in RZ but i can pm super moderators for new rule;
Rule) Trying to sell / buy anything from signature/user title/username is not allowed, if you want to trade something go "Merchant Zone"

I will talk with s.moderators/mental about that.

Regards
RevoLand