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  1. #46
    It“s a Psylo^^ P5yl0 is offline
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    Re: TERA EMU 2903 toGO!

    yeah i know your problem^^..

    the ingame problem is the biggest...
    click on play button and there are rushing over 30+ packets in one line...
    hard to analyze which one is really needed and which one not and on which one working first would be more effective...

    the idea with the multi opcodes is a good idea i had it too^^ but i dont think its effective to do that.....
    takes toooo much time.. 90% of the functions need to be rewritten.. in every packet there is minimum 2 or 3 bytes shifted...
    nothing works really only with updating opcodes...
    and multiple would be a hell of work you have to rewrite every function to the correct client...
    that would be for every 3-6 month client update a new own function for any packet..^^

    the only things to do on the 1725 what would be nice would be the attack functions..
    or maybe dungeon engine...
    maybe i can implement the dungeon engine or other engines later in my server source..

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    Valued Member diego00 is offline
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    Its a very nice work P5yl0, thank you so much!!!

    I'm waiting for your release, and i will test all things if you need ^^

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    Founder of EvilSource the1Domo is offline
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    Re: TERA EMU 2903 toGO!

    can you help us to get new Packet ID :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by theDomo View Post
    can you help us to get new Packet ID :)
    Did you said this for me?

    Just tell me what program and how to get the Packets IDs and ill help with pleasure.

    I've the latest TERA Enmasse client. But if needs to be the EU client version just tell me and ill download it ^^

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    Enthusiast Coenx is offline
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    I would like to ask why so many people are starting MMO server development from the beginning?
    For all WoW like games we can use existing MMO frameworks (TrinityCore or Mangos) and adopt to a specific game.
    It still needs a lot of development but it will be based on good tested baseline/core (network, accounts, character and world management).
    Each framework has a big community with many helpful developers.
    I don't understand why so many people things that can create a better MMO server alone from the beginning.
    In my opinion it will be better to concentrate on an investigation how a specific game works (network packets, game logic, etc) and let developers adopt a selected MMO framework to those differences.
    In this way it has a bigger chance to be completed someday (in reasonable time).

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    Apprentice alexfunny is offline
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    Re: TERA EMU 2903 toGO!

    As it can help in the development of this emulator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P5yl0 View Post
    yeah i know your problem^^..

    the ingame problem is the biggest...
    click on play button and there are rushing over 30+ packets in one line...
    hard to analyze which one is really needed and which one not and on which one working first would be more effective...

    the idea with the multi opcodes is a good idea i had it too^^ but i dont think its effective to do that.....
    takes toooo much time.. 90% of the functions need to be rewritten.. in every packet there is minimum 2 or 3 bytes shifted...
    nothing works really only with updating opcodes...
    and multiple would be a hell of work you have to rewrite every function to the correct client...
    that would be for every 3-6 month client update a new own function for any packet..^^

    the only things to do on the 1725 what would be nice would be the attack functions..
    or maybe dungeon engine...
    maybe i can implement the dungeon engine or other engines later in my server source..
    Feel free : D
    Attack system is reworked and fine now, 20.04.2015 update. Dungeon engine yup, i'm thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coenx View Post
    I would like to ask why so many people are starting MMO server development from the beginning?
    For all WoW like games we can use existing MMO frameworks (TrinityCore or Mangos) and adopt to a specific game.
    It still needs a lot of development but it will be based on good tested baseline/core (network, accounts, character and world management).
    Each framework has a big community with many helpful developers.
    I don't understand why so many people things that can create a better MMO server alone from the beginning.
    In my opinion it will be better to concentrate on an investigation how a specific game works (network packets, game logic, etc) and let developers adopt a selected MMO framework to those differences.
    In this way it has a bigger chance to be completed someday (in reasonable time).
    Since you aren't a developer coder or anyone who can actually HELP improving any kind of source code or C+ i don't understad why do you even comment someone private will and time to spend on something? People do what they wan't i would do it as well from beggining since i rather have my own code than repairing stuff from whoever made it . And if you still don't understand why learn C+ Javan and other coding then you will understand and feel the joy of doing something by yourself .

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    Enthusiast Coenx is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by djor View Post
    Since you aren't a developer coder or anyone who can actually HELP improving any kind of source code or C+ i don't understad why do you even comment someone private will and time to spend on something? People do what they wan't i would do it as well from beggining since i rather have my own code than repairing stuff from whoever made it . And if you still don't understand why learn C+ Javan and other coding then you will understand and feel the joy of doing something by yourself .
    Just wow! Do you know me? I know exactly that feeling. How many experience do you have that you still think that one person is able to create MMO server from beginning in reasonable time, with good quality and well tested? You are right that people can do what they want, but I just asked why not use an existing framework and make use of saved time for a specific features implementation. Anybody can invent a wheel from beginning, his choice. You can create a c/c++ standard library too, it will be a wonderful feeling.
    But it will be nice to finish a server before this game will be dead.
    As for help improving or add something, sure but first the code needs to by released. Then this server implementation can derive from power of dev community.

    I know that "P5yl0" has sufficient knowledge and skills, but I would like to know his decision. Maybe he has some interesting reason to start from beginning. I'm very interested in his server's code, it can be a very instructive. Good luck.

    At the end I would like to congratulate you "djor" on excellent dev skill, you are just amazing if your own code is always better in performance, reliability and maintenance then a code of dev community.
    Regards,
    Last edited by Coenx; 20-04-15 at 01:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coenx View Post
    But it will be nice to finish a server before this game will be dead.
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    Sure, the game will die after Black Desert european/usa release. Like La2, Aion and many other games.
    2015 is a starting point for a new horizons for game developers.
    As you can see, 90% of 2015 games is only for 64 bit Windows and after Windows 10 release (with DirectX 12), everything will change.
    Gamers want a photorealistic graphics. Computers now are very powerful, next year 6-8 core cpu will be standart + 8-16 GB Ram at least.
    Who will play old games? Only fans...
    Last edited by EvilEva; 20-04-15 at 10:06 AM.

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    Valued Member diego00 is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by tastyshots View Post
    Sure, the game will die after Black Desert european/usa release.
    I don't believe that...
    Black Desert is nice, but the systems is too bad, trust me.
    The horse breedings, the rare of get female horses, the stamina that don't recover without items. Its very very bad.
    The craft system is sUx. For made one simple saddle you have to spend a lot of time killing the same mob. Just terrible....
    Ship ans Wagon system: horrible too. You can't recover stamina for them... And you can't give fuel... You cant fix... very bad.
    A lot of quests that the npc follows you. And you go mounted on horse, at full speed, and a woman by foot can follow you and instead carrying a baby.
    REALLY? WTF, its very bad =P
    ArcheAge have better system for ships, mounts and craft.
    The ONLY thing that i prefer than ArcheAge's system is that in BD you can really cut all the trees/rocks/plants on map. Its is very nice :D

    Quote Originally Posted by tastyshots View Post
    Gamers want a photorealistic graphics. Computers now are very powerful, next year 6-8 core cpu will be standart + 8-16 GB Ram at least.
    Who will play old games? Only fans...
    In 2015 and you see this:


    Really, look at that! WTF ???!!!

    2d games have worse graphics, but the graphics is limited, not bugged like that.

    I'm playing BD, and im not likeing it.

    I prefer much more ArcheAge, but TRION really f.... the game =(

    It will be very nice if i was russian or live in there. RU server is great, but i've a very high ping and i can't understand ru language =P

    If anyone make an emulator for archeage, it will really be perfect or one for black desert with diferent systems :D

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    Because you are old player, that's why.
    Here people buying PC's with x4 gpu, 64 gb ram.
    I have seen this only now and only this year.
    Soon, everything will change.

    About emulators: well, no one will do it for free, trust me. Everything people posting, just an outdated or abandoned projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastyshots View Post
    Because you are old player, that's why.
    Here people buying PC's with x4 gpu, 64 gb ram.
    I have seen this only now and only this year.
    Soon, everything will change.

    About emulators: well, no one will do it for free, trust me. Everything people posting, just an outdated or abandoned projects.
    Yeah =(
    Its a lot of work to do, and the people don't help much, so the projects are been abandoned one by one =(

    I'll look for some guides how to get packets ids, but i don't think itll be easier to find =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by diego00 View Post
    Yeah =(
    Its a lot of work to do, and the people don't help much, so the projects are been abandoned one by one =(

    I'll look for some guides how to get packets ids, but i don't think itll be easier to find =/
    You can use PacketSamurai or some tool like that. If you have C++/C# skill make a packet tool very easy. I see you talk about Trinity and Mangos. Both of them use ACE network library and it take long time to implement. .NET now can run faster but don't have best network library for MMO RPG so you must implement it from .net socket :))

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    I would love to see anyone working on Tera verry hardly i would donate even 500 bucks monthly lol i tried one emu so far and im goin back to retail since no improvements -.- guys please take my money and make my Tera P server dream come true >.>



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