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    Question Best Recommended STARTER Electric Guitar

    As the title says! I'm really interested in playing the electric guitar, but it's my first time so i need some advice on what model starter guitar i should get, including the amp of course. My budget is USD135++ for both of em'

    Arigato Gozaimasu!!!
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    P.S. this was actually the "Acoustic or Electric?" thread, so please ignore the 1st few posts as i did'nt wanted to double-thread so i edited this thread instead, but still i hope you can help me ^^
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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    MMhmmm well i wouldn't learn the latter. You could go for the hybrid if you want :D

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Electric. They may cost more, with the amp and whatnot but its so much better, in my opinion. Get an acoustic effects pedal too and boom yer set. :P

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    both
    start off with electric
    its slightly harder imo and once you master that, acustic will be easy

    they both have different qualitys that shine through when played.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by ***LILK@OS*** View Post
    both
    start off with electric
    its slightly harder imo and once you master that, acoustic will be easy.
    That's actually wrong, you want to start out with acoustic, then move to electric.

    Electric stings are very thin and harsh on your fingers. If you start with acoustic you'll build the calluses from the thicker strings. Plus they're heavier and you'll build more finger strength from the start. On top of all that, going form Electric to Acoustic is actually harder then going Acoustic to Electric. For the fact that acoustic strings and frets are much more spread out.

    If you want the best of both worlds just get a nice acoustic electric. Just make sure it has a wood body.

    But no matter what we say will make you change your mind about not liking acoustics. Just get what you want, and stick with it.

    Remember, you have to practice the boring stuff in order to play the cool stuff.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    start from acoustic, electric will feel like uber-easy after you play on acoustic for a few months.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    It may feel easier after some time playing the acoustic to play the electric guitar. Because of the smallest distance of the frets etc. BUT keep in mind that the electric guitar is a very tough instrument if you wanna actually learn how to play it and master it. I suggest going for the electric because this is what YOU want. Playing an acoustic, which you dont like, may result in you getting bored and stop playing the guitar.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by papari View Post
    It may feel easier after some time playing the acoustic to play the electric guitar. Because of the smallest distance of the frets etc. BUT keep in mind that the electric guitar is a very tough instrument if you wanna actually learn how to play it and master it. I suggest going for the electric because this is what YOU want. Playing an acoustic, which you dont like, may result in you getting bored and stop playing the guitar.
    A bad advice tbh...


    But of course, the choice is yours my friend - Either listen to a person who has some good experience behind him and to a real pro, (Our own DaCheat, of course! And not only in guitars btw, basically anything that has to do with music) , or to this dude who thinks he has a clue what he's talking about...


    BUT! On the other hand, I know a dude who's a really good guitarist, and when he just started, he started off from an electric straight away. But he has enough years of playing experience to have already corrected the imperfections that the unorthodox beginning might have caused a billion times already.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    I'm not liking the amount of false info flying round here...

    Well, you can pretty much apply what you've learnt on electric to acoustic, and vice versa, apart from certain techniques which are custom to specific instruments such as percussive playing on the acoustic.

    I'd say get an acoustic. You can get them for pretty cheap, there's not faffle about what pickups you have, whether your amp is solid state or valve, what tone you want out of it, whether you want a double locking tremolo, etc. Plus, you got to think about all the extra such as 1/4 jacks, effects pedals, etc. In my opinion, being a beginner, you'd be pretty dissapointed with the 'versatility' you can get out of just a starter guitar and amp.

    With acoustic, you get portability and simplicity.

    + I don't know why some are making it out to look one instrument takes more effort/technicality than the other. DEPENDING on what you play, each instrument is as equal.

    Depending on what genres you like, what type of music you like, etc - that should influence your decision.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    It depends on what kind of music you listen and also enjoy playing.

    i listen to Metal/Hardcore bands, but i'd rather enjoy playing acousticly.

    I agree with DaCheat, Start on Acoustic, You'll Learn better theory as well such as chord progressions etc.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avenged View Post
    It depends on what kind of music you listen and also enjoy playing.

    i listen to Metal/Hardcore bands, but i'd rather enjoy playing acousticly.

    I agree with DaCheat, Start on Acoustic, You'll Learn better theory as well such as chord progressions etc.
    Again, there's a bit of un-founded info flying around here.

    You can still play a chord progression on an electric... you can also learn the same amount of theory on an electric as an acoustic.

    They're the same instrument, they both have 6 strings, are tuned standardly in eBGDAE. The only difference is one's electric, and the other's acoustic. You can pretty much play anything on acoustic that you would on electric (aslong as you don't delve too far into to instrument variation techniques, But even things like fingerstyle, I myself apply it to electric guitar, sometimes in the form of hybrid picking.) and vice versa.

    I can still play power metal an acoustic (the only limit in my mind being the string gauges, which would affect legato) if I wanted to. It'd probs sound shit yes, but then again, playing Tommy Emanuelle on a Schecter with distortion cranked up is going to sound like a completely different song.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    eletroic

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    I started with electric. Although, I wish I had started with acoustic.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by KyleEnos View Post
    . It'd probs sound shit yes, but then again, playing Tommy Emanuelle on a Schecter with distortion cranked up is going to sound like a completely different song.
    I'm happy you know who Tommy Emanuelle is! haha

    But yes KyleEnos is right, you can play on both, but from my teaching experience (yes I gave lessons on guitar.) It is much easier to learn on acoustic.

    But like I said in my last post. If you hate acoustic, then screw it! Play what you like, whatever is going to keep you motivated go for it.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Wow.. this is really a tough decision, but i think i've came to a conclusion. buy an electric, that's cos my friend is willing to lend and teach me acoustic, when he's free or when i go to his house o.O
    so thanks all! you have really helped me in my decision..

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    (BTW, any recommendations on what electric guitar i should get? my budget is lesser than SGD300 which is USD203 >.< amp too!! ^^)
    Last edited by SGxiaosin; 11-10-08 at 02:52 AM.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Umm... I didn't understand you clearly - what's you're budget again? 203$?

    From personal experience, I'd recommend you going for an Ibanez GSA60. I just check Guitar-Center.com, and it appears it costs 200$. It's a great beginner guitar, really. But you're gonna need an amplifier as well, so you might wanna throw an additional 60$ and buy an Ibanez IBZ10 amp. Basically, this was the equipment I started with, and I was pretty satisfied with it in the beginning.. But I got tired of it pretty quickly because, well, I was advancing pretty quickly at the time.. so.. yeah :P

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    thanks for the recommendation! i really appreciate it! but is there another recommendation which can last longer and not really a starter guitar >.< thanks

    (BTW guitar-center counts by USD?

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Yes, Guitar Center counts by USD (for me at least). Basically, you will not need anything more than a starter guitar for now - and to be honest - buying a crazy-ass custom expensive guitar as a 1st guitar is a mistake for several reasons:

    1) no offense, but the new guys don't understand much in specific sounds and stuff like that (trust me, everyone that plays guitar has been through that), so you better look for COMFORT, rather than a specific sound.
    2) Many times, new players CANNOT AFFORD any better gear, so you can't afford nothing but a beginner's gear anyway.
    3) The cheaper beginner's gear is sometimes kinda easier to use (this is concerns amplifiers, more than guitars tbh), So you don't get some big bad-ass valve amp head with hundreds of functions that you can't figure out what to do with them. It's made in a way that allows you to learn, step-by-step, and not get stuck because you cant figure out how to use the gear to sound properly.
    4) Most of the cheap guitars are pretty much made in a way that they don't feel really different one from another, at least from what I've seen, so that they may fit and feel pretty comfortable for just about any person.


    So, in a few words:
    Beginner's gear is most well-suited for beginner players, more affordable, less complicated, and is most likely the rightest choice for a new player.



    Remember:

    You WILL want eventually, and it will become ESSENTIAL at some point, that you change your equipment, because you're advancing and learning more and more as you go, and as it goes, you're taste in sound and music develops and changes, so basically a good guitarist never stays with the same guitar all the way.

    Yes, you may settle on one perfect guitar for you eventually, but it is most likely to take a lot of time for you to settle on something specific - perhaps a year or two, perhaps ten. It all depends on how fast you will advance and how "unstable" you're taste is.

    I met a guy who is a great guitar player, but he used to change guitars every now and then, and on a Metal-head message board I visit frequently, in the musician forums he was known as "The guy that sells" for a long time simply because he always bought new gear and sold the old one. Until he built his own Jackson Custom, he constantly changed guitars every now and then. So there you have it, a guy who had pretty much a hard-time settling on something specific.


    Note: if you meant "last", as in if it will stay "in one piece", just about ANY guitar can last DECADES, amps, I think, would last for a little less, but my point is - you can keep just about any guitar or another piece of equipment in great shape for as long as you want, so long as you maintain you equipment well.

    WOW, I wrote A LOT! hope the info is helpful.

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashed Hell View Post
    start from acoustic, electric will feel like uber-easy after you play on acoustic for a few months.
    Agreed

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashed Hell View Post
    Yes, Guitar Center counts by USD (for me at least). Basically, you will not need anything more than a starter guitar for now - and to be honest - buying a crazy-ass custom expensive guitar as a 1st guitar is a mistake for several reasons:

    1) no offense, but the new guys don't understand much in specific sounds and stuff like that (trust me, everyone that plays guitar has been through that), so you better look for COMFORT, rather than a specific sound.
    2) Many times, new players CANNOT AFFORD any better gear, so you can't afford nothing but a beginner's gear anyway.
    3) The cheaper beginner's gear is sometimes kinda easier to use (this is concerns amplifiers, more than guitars tbh), So you don't get some big bad-ass valve amp head with hundreds of functions that you can't figure out what to do with them. It's made in a way that allows you to learn, step-by-step, and not get stuck because you cant figure out how to use the gear to sound properly.
    4) Most of the cheap guitars are pretty much made in a way that they don't feel really different one from another, at least from what I've seen, so that they may fit and feel pretty comfortable for just about any person.


    So, in a few words:
    Beginner's gear is most well-suited for beginner players, more affordable, less complicated, and is most likely the rightest choice for a new player.



    Remember:

    You WILL want eventually, and it will become ESSENTIAL at some point, that you change your equipment, because you're advancing and learning more and more as you go, and as it goes, you're taste in sound and music develops and changes, so basically a good guitarist never stays with the same guitar all the way.

    Yes, you may settle on one perfect guitar for you eventually, but it is most likely to take a lot of time for you to settle on something specific - perhaps a year or two, perhaps ten. It all depends on how fast you will advance and how "unstable" you're taste is.

    I met a guy who is a great guitar player, but he used to change guitars every now and then, and on a Metal-head message board I visit frequently, in the musician forums he was known as "The guy that sells" for a long time simply because he always bought new gear and sold the old one. Until he built his own Jackson Custom, he constantly changed guitars every now and then. So there you have it, a guy who had pretty much a hard-time settling on something specific.


    Note: if you meant "last", as in if it will stay "in one piece", just about ANY guitar can last DECADES, amps, I think, would last for a little less, but my point is - you can keep just about any guitar or another piece of equipment in great shape for as long as you want, so long as you maintain you equipment well.

    WOW, I wrote A LOT! hope the info is helpful.
    yes, u did wrote alot. okay i shall stick with beginner guitars then.. thanks ^^

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    electric is alot better than acoustic,

    its louder =]

    acoustic sounds nicer

    i prefer electric, sounder cooler

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clysse View Post
    electric is alot better than acoustic,

    its louder =]

    acoustic sounds nicer

    i prefer electric, sounder cooler
    Dude, do you have a single clue what you're talking about?

    God, I just couldn't resist anymore - If you people have never even seen a guitar before then don't post recommending on crap you don't have a clue what it's about :\

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashed Hell View Post
    Dude, do you have a single clue what you're talking about?

    God, I just couldn't resist anymore - If you people have never even seen a guitar before then don't post recommending on crap you don't have a clue what it's about :\
    Indeed, it seems a lot of people like flinging un-founded info round here. I mean c'mon people, there's someone here willing to spent a fair bit of money, it is really careless and pretty spiteful to advise him on a subject you know next to nothing about.

    And to DC: Yeah, Tommy is teh awesome :P One of my biggest influences when it comes to acoustic :)

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    Re: [POLL?] Electric or Acoustic?

    ummm.. no offence, i know i may sound like a noob (that's because i really am i noob!) but now i have a different question and does'nt want to start a new thread, so...

    a recommended electric guitar and amp for a beginner anyone?
    (budget of USD135++)

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    Re: Best Recommended STARTER Electric Guitar

    Imo, with that budget it'd be best to look in your local second hand trader and buy it second hand. You'll probably get a vetter deal too for better equipment, though, the gap between all of the guitars around $130 isn't going to be huge, so it doesn't really matter aslong as you feel comfortable with it.



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