LOl.
Ye ill be honest I was expecting alot of "RAP SUCKS GTFO".
But so far clean, so lets be happy ; ]
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LOl.
Ye ill be honest I was expecting alot of "RAP SUCKS GTFO".
But so far clean, so lets be happy ; ]
rap is not music i consider it noise about sex,money and drugs.
not all rap is about sex.. I mean other than "I'll take you to the candy shop"
There are some pretty good songs out there...that yes..have a meaning to life other than girls.
Then obviously you only have listenm to soulja boy crank dat, and not the good shit right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Potticus
Any music is noise, with music added... And plus every kind of music has its stereotypes, like metal is screaming for example, and not every song poseses this stereotype. Therefor you cant come in here and tell us that one or two rap songs screws up rap. The reason alot of songs are crap is because raps been around for a while and alot of wannabees have tryed to make sick beats and sucked.
Isn't that Rock n' Roll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Potticus
TBH its mostly rockn roll, but some rap songs are about sex drugs and moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by CrownC
rock n' roll (im assuming your talking about the good stuff) has stuff about sex and drugs but there made into "creative" wording not the f-word every two words
Agreed, didn't expect this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaCheat
You start saying shit about `the good stuff`. See, even in rock n roll theres crap songs but I dont say rock sucks shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Potticus
Here's the only rap song worth listening to:
Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air
In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys
Who were up to no good
Startin making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'
I begged and pleaded with her day after day
But she packed my suite case and send me on my way
She gave me a kiss and then she gave me my ticket.
I put my walkman on and said, 'I might as well kick it'.
First class, yo this is bad
Drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass.
Is this what the people of Bel-Air Living like?
Hmmmmm this might be alright.
But wait I hear there're prissy, wine all that
Is Bel-Air the type of place they send this cool cat?
I don't think sow
I'll see when I get there
I hope they're prepared for the prince of Bel-Air
Well, the plane landed and when I came out
There was a dude who looked like a cop standing there with my name out
I ain't trying to get arrested
I just got here
I sprang with the quickness like lightening, disappeared
I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I can say this cab is rare
But I thought 'Now forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel Air'
I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air
true but there are more good rock n roll songs then good rap songs. good rap songs are like democrats getting elected to office its very rare
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Originally Posted by Jaheebajizzle
Then you obviously don't have the right skills, to find good rap.
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Genryu
And rock guy, (forgot name) Its more rare because more people wanna do it. But if it was only a small group of people like rock n roll obviously less would be crap. The point is tons more people prefer rap than rock n roll so there is more people to critic.
Ok, I tried my best to avoid this thread at all costs. Mainly because I despise rap and everything it stands for. But, mainly because it isn't music at all. It's bad poetry but to a simple beat and is music for the simple minded. This is all my opinion of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Initiate
Now, about your comment on more people prefer rap over rock...NO. Are you retarded? Rap wouldn't even exist if it hadn't been for rock. Actually, I take that back. Rap has it's roots in African American folk songs that were sung around the 1870s. It only became popular around the 1960s.
Post more later, gotta take exam.
Im not a huge fan of rap but I would rather pick :
YouTube - Will Smith F. Mary J Blige -Tell MeWhy(Full Music Video )
Over this :
YouTube - Lordi - Hardrock Hallelujah
Anytime (:
Beside im saying that rock aint music and that kinda music is for all the sad ones.
The discussion is endless just lock this thread .
It is endless, but if everyone can keep in mind that not everyone likes what they do, then this thread will say a good discussion. I almost locked it right away when it was first posted, but left it open to see how everyone would handle it. So far it's been great.Quote:
Originally Posted by InZan3
Rap is a way to express yourself. For a sample 50 cent, he may rap about girls, drugs, weapons and things about that, and thats how he grew up, and listen to the flow! its supa good! Crank dat is also good (the first three times you hear it then you realise its BS)
Yeah sure like Kanye is good and dont make tracks about this things, ffs ever heard Good Life? There he "raps" or whatever you call it, about money and girls. There is many wannabe's out there like Soulja Boy but some of them really become something.
Kanye's Good life is all about his life i mean come on look at the chorus:
Now I - I go for mine, I got to shine
(Now throw your hands up in the sky)
Now I - I go for mine, I got to shine
(Now throw your hands up in the sky)
I'ma get on this TV mama, I'ma
50 cent is not raping about his life, I mean look at Candy Shop, your telling me that hjappened to him? Crank dat was always crap , we just never realized it. And iron maiden I mean that more people are into rap nowadays than they are into rock.
Ofc rap generated from rock but more people will now prefer rap over rock.
I'ma put shit down
(Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh)
I'm good
Right so. Where I left off. Ah yes. Rap became popular in the 1960s when rock was sweeping the nation...coincidence? I think not. Rap put the harmonic folk lyrics about hard life in the south to a simple rock beat usually with a heavy bass and snare drum sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Maiden
As for the statement that more people prefer rap than rock. I believe your spouting bullshit out of your ass. Your statement might be true for Americans...hell even I don't believe that. But, it sure as hell isn't true for the entire world. I bet you could take the most famous rap artist's record sales and put them up against the most popular rock bands of all time and they wouldn't even compare. Try putting up Kanye West's record sales against the Beatles, or 50 Cent up against Led Zeppelin. Or even Chamillionare against Aerosmith. I guarentee that all 3 of those rap artists combined record sales don't even come close to any 1 of those bands individual record sales.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Maiden
Well put em up against britney spears then ! :eek:
They still sell more than her.Quote:
Originally Posted by InZan3
Ya britney is just a whore.
Although rap might be based on rock its still good, and I thought that rap was more popular then rock because i live in the america area, america, canada and the peolple here mosstly like rap.I apologize.
But rap is stil lgood.
Almost everything in the music business is called ''Rock'' ''Pop'' or ''Country''.Quote:
1 The Beatles 40+ 400,000,000 UK 60s (1962-1970) Rock/Pop Guinness/EMI
2. Michael Jackson 14 350,000,000 US 70s-00s (1979-) Pop/R&B MJ Stats
3 Elvis Presley 150+ 300,000,000 US 50s-70s (1956-1977) Country/Rock
4. Madonna 16 275,000,000 US 80s-00s (1984-) Pop WBR [1]
5. Nana Mouskouri 450 250,000,000 Greece 60s-00s (1959-) Pop [2][3]
6. Cliff Richard 60+ 250,000,000 UK 50s-00s (1959-1969,1977-1979,1986-1999) Rock/Pop [4]
7.The Rolling Stones 54 ~250,000,000 UK 60s-00s (1964-1981) Rock 60.5 million in the US [5]
8. Mariah Carey 14 230,000,000 US 90s-00s (1990-) Pop/R&B
9. Elton John 43 ~220,000,000 UK 70s-00s (1972-1976,1989-1991,1997-) Pop [6]
10.Celine Dion 21 220,000,000 Canada 80s-00s (1990-) Pop Music/Pop Discography
11. Pink Floyd 21 ~210,000,000 UK 60s-00s (1970-1983,1994-1995) Prog Rock 73 Mil US
12. Led Zeppelin 9/12 200,000,000+ UK 60s-70s (1969-1979) Rock/Blues MSNBC
13. Metallica 10 ~200,000,000 US 80's-00's (1991-1997) Hard Rock 57 mil US
14. Julio Iglesias 80 ~200,000,000 Spain 70s-00s (1969-) Latino Pop [7] [8]
15. Queen 22 180,000,000 UK 70s-00s (1975-1995) Rock R&R
16 AC/DC ~180,000,000 Australia/UK 70s-00s (1980-1992) Hard Rock AC/DC
17 Whitney Houston 10 ~180,000,000 US 80s-00s (1985-2000) R&B/Pop Discography
18. ABBA 160,000,000 Sweden 70s-80s (1974-1982) Disco/Pop ABBA discography
19. U2 ~150,000,000 Ireland 80s-00s (1983-) Rock/Pop 50m.US
20.The Jacksons 150,000,000 US 60s-80s (1969-1980) R&B 71m.US
21. Garth Brooks ~145,000,000 US 80s-00s (1989-2001) Country 105m.US
22. Janet Jackson 11 130,000,000 US 80s-00s (1986-) R&B/pop
23. The Eagles ~120,000,000 US 70s-00s (1974-1979) Country/Rock 89 million in US
24. Wei Wei ~120,000,000 China 80s-00s (1986-) Pop [12] [13]
25. The Bee Gees 110,000,000 UK/Australia 60s-00s (1975-1979) Pop/Disco src.1
26. Bon Jovi ~110,000,000 US 80s-00s (1986-2000) Rock/Hard Rock (100m.alb.)
27. R.E.M. ~110,000,000 US 80s-00s (1991-) Rock [(106m.alb.)
28. Kenny Rogers 105,000,000+ US 60s-00s Country/Pop/Rock [15]
29. Black Sabbath 100,000,000+ US 70s-00s Hard Rock/Metal [17]
30. Barbra Streisand 100,000,000+ US 60s-00s popular 70.5 million in US [18]
31. Mireille Mathieu 37 ~100,000,000 France 60s-00s Pop src.
32.Alla Pugacheva 15 ~100,000,000 Russia 70s-00s Rock/Pop *(10m.US) [19]
33. Prince ~100,000,000 US 70s-00s Rock/Pop src.
34. Ricky Nelson ~100,000,000 US 50s-80s Pop/Country/Rock
35. Luciano Pavarotti ~100,000,000 Italy 60s-00s Opera [20] [21]
36.Brenda Lee ~100,000,000 US 50s-60s Pop/Country [22]
37.OmPrakash ~100,000,000 India 90s-00s [23]
38.Illayaraja ~100,000,000 India 70s-00s [24]
39. Johnny Mathis ~100,000,000 UK 60s-00s Rock/Pop [25]
40. Lionel Richie ~100,000,000 US 80s-00s Pop/R&B [26] 21.0 mililion in US
[27]
41. Dolly Parton ~100,000,000 US 60s-00s Country [28]
42. Donna Summer ~100,000,000 US 70s-90s Disco
43. Aerosmith ~100,000,000 US 70s-00s Hard Rock [30] [31]
44. Billy Joel ~100,000,000 US 70s-00s Pop / Rock 78 mil.US, [32] [33]
45. Fleetwood Mac ~100,000,000 UK/US 60s-00s Pop/Rock 2
46. Johnny Hallyday ~100,000,000 France 50s-00s Pop src.1 [34]
47. Charles Aznavour ~100,000,000 France 50s-00s Pop [35]
48. Bruce Springsteen ~90,000,000 US 70s-00s Rock/Pop *(61 mil. albums US)
49. Def Leppard ~90,000,000 UK 80s-00s Hard Rock 55.5mil.US
50. Bob Dylan ~90,000,000 US 60s-00s Folk-Rock *35m.US,
51. Earth, Wind & Fire 90,000,000 US 70s-00s R&B/Funk/Disco/Pop *(23 mil.US)
52. KISS 30 ~90,000,000 US 70s-00s Hard Rock source
53.B'z 14 ~86,000,000 Japan 90s-00s Rock See also: discussion #22
54. Eddy Arnold 85,000,000 US 40s-90s Country source
55. Britney Spears ~85,000,000 US 90s-00s Pop *(32 mil. US), src.
56. Modern Talking ~80,000,000 Germany 80s-00s Eurodance
57. Jean-Michel Jarre 19 ~80,000,000 France 70s-00s Synth Pop sourceSee also: discussion #19
58. Santana ~80,000,000 US 60s-00s Rock src.1 *[37mil. US]
59. Dalida ~80,000,000 France 50s-80s as of 1981 See also: discussion #19
60. Salvatore Adamo ~80,000,000 Italy 60s-00s [38]
61. Fairouz ~80,000,000 Lebanon 60s-00s Traditional Arab, Modern, Pop *(35 mil. US)
62. Eric Clapton ~80,000,000 UK 80s-00s Rock, Blues *(38 mil. US)
63. Stevie Wonder ~80,000,000 US 60s-00s Soul/R&B/Pop,Disco [39]
64. Hank Snow ~80,000,000 Canada 30's-90's Folk [40]
('06 info).
The real rap is never heard on radio, or by a lot of people, and therefore forgotten. Then people like 50 Cent come along and ruin rap and what it should actually sound like. I agree with Iron Maiden that rock will always be more popular but with the perfect beat and good lyrics rap can be just as good as rock.
- Infumous
Where'd you get your info Genryu? Please don't say Rolling Stone magazine. Because they are a bunch of fucking retards who ruin all music with their bullshit reviews.