Rap

[Diexcy]

Kanye's Good life is all about his life i mean come on look at the chorus:

Now I - I go for mine, I got to shine
(Now throw your hands up in the sky)
Now I - I go for mine, I got to shine
(Now throw your hands up in the sky)
I'ma get on this TV mama, I'ma

50 cent is not raping about his life, I mean look at Candy Shop, your telling me that hjappened to him? Crank dat was always crap , we just never realized it. And iron maiden I mean that more people are into rap nowadays than they are into rock.
Ofc rap generated from rock but more people will now prefer rap over rock.
I'ma put shit down
(Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh)
I'm good

Aight aight, i didnt mean the chorus in good life...

And she got the goods
And she got that ass, I got to look

Thats the girl part and heres the money part

But when I get my card back activated
I'm back to Vegas

Candy shop isnt about his life rofl. Go watch Get Rich or Die Tryin' and youll see

and NONONONO!!! Rap did not evolve from rock! this is from wikipedia:
Rapping hip hop music can be traced back in many ways to its African roots. Centuries before the United States existed, the griots of West Africa were delivering stories rhythmically, over drums and sparse instrumentation. Because of the time that has passed since the griots of old, the connections between rap and the African griots are widely established, but not clear-cut. However, such connections have been acknowledged by rappers, modern day "griots", spoken word artists, mainstream news sources, and academics.

[Gladstone]

Anyone who says "rap isn't music it requires no talent rawr rawr rawr" is a close minded fool. I'm not going to point you toward "Nas" or any of that rubbish, but there are some extremely talented rap artists out there. Soweto Kinch, for example, is an Oxford graduate in history, and a virtuoso jazz saxophonist - but he is also a rapper, with some very well written and meaningful songs that are great social commentaries. I recommend you all check him out.

MySpace.com - Soweto Kinch - - Other / Jazz / Hip Hop - www.myspace.com/sowetokinch

As for rap being more popular than rock... No. Maybe among the younger American generations, but not overall.

[Diexcy]

Anyone who says "rap isn't music it requires no talent rawr rawr rawr" is a close minded fool. I'm not going to point you toward "Nas" or any of that rubbish, but there are some extremely talented rap artists out there. Soweto Kinch, for example, is an Oxford graduate in history, and a virtuoso jazz saxophonist - but he is also a rapper, with some very well written and meaningful songs that are great social commentaries. I recommend you all check him out.

MySpace.com - Soweto Kinch - - Other / Jazz / Hip Hop - www.myspace.com/sowetokinch

As for rap being more popular than rock... No. Maybe among the younger American generations, but not overall.

I fully agree with you... but the best rappers are not so famous

[Unleashed Hell]

Man... I'm impressed that no one have come and started throwing dumb comment yet. It's actually the 1st time I see that a topic about rap stays clean and doesn't get closed. nice.

[Initiate]

Aight aight, i didnt mean the chorus in good life...

And she got the goods
And she got that ass, I got to look

Thats the girl part and heres the money part

But when I get my card back activated
I'm back to Vegas

Candy shop isnt about his life rofl. Go watch Get Rich or Die Tryin' and youll see

and NONONONO!!! Rap did not evolve from rock! this is from wikipedia:
Rapping hip hop music can be traced back in many ways to its African roots. Centuries before the United States existed, the griots of West Africa were delivering stories rhythmically, over drums and sparse instrumentation. Because of the time that has passed since the griots of old, the connections between rap and the African griots are widely established, but not clear-cut. However, such connections have been acknowledged by rappers, modern day "griots", spoken word artists, mainstream news sources, and academics.

I never said candy shop is about his life :P

Btw @ Unleashed hell ye im hella surprised xD

[mechamac]

For me, Rap isn't music at all, it's just about making rhymes with the words (im not saying that it's junk, it just that it isn't real music for me). And for those who says that Rap can be as good as rock, i find it hard to believe because rock has way more deep meaning than just a lyric. I bet that most of the American teens would listen to pink floyd and say "WTF is this shit, its boring as hell!!" And you know why? Because they have a big lack of culture.

Oh btw rap can be well mixed with other genres, just look at limp bizkit and some other Nu metal bands out there, rap can be a good complement to some of the music genres but rap itself isnt music. Thats my opinion.

[DaCheat]

<3 you. btw that is the first time I've ever used the <3 thing...feel happy.


As I've said many a time I cannot just sit and listen to rap or I'll go crazy... But I will say a party just isn't the same without it. Even though that the rap they play at parties isn't even true rap, it's that pop rap shit.

I know most people hated the Jay-Z/Linkin Park thing, but I really liked it. Call me a retarded with Downs syndrome, but I thought it was good. :p

[Thrill_Machine]

Aight aight, i didnt mean the chorus in good life...

And she got the goods
And she got that ass, I got to look

Thats the girl part and heres the money part

But when I get my card back activated
I'm back to Vegas

Candy shop isnt about his life rofl. Go watch Get Rich or Die Tryin' and youll see

and NONONONO!!! Rap did not evolve from rock! this is from wikipedia:
Rapping hip hop music can be traced back in many ways to its African roots. Centuries before the United States existed, the griots of West Africa were delivering stories rhythmically, over drums and sparse instrumentation. Because of the time that has passed since the griots of old, the connections between rap and the African griots are widely established, but not clear-cut. However, such connections have been acknowledged by rappers, modern day "griots", spoken word artists, mainstream news sources, and academics.

Get rich or die tryin was the worst film ive seen 8 Mile 10 times better,

50's film was just too fake.

[Abstrakt]

There is actually some good rap songs that actually mean something.. I mean if you really listen to the lyrics it makes sense.

P.diddy - ill be missing you ,etc.
Rascalz - On top of the world
Point Blank - Born and raised in the ghetto

But yeah I mostly listen to R&B and stuff.

I dont know how to embed but here are some songs as listed:

YouTube - P. Diddy, Faith Evans, 112 - I'll Be Missing You

YouTube - Rascalz Feat. Barrington Levy & K-Os - Top Of The World

YouTube - Point Blank - Born and Raised in the Ghetto (Final Cut)

P.S. - I guess I dont really enjoy Rock n' stuff that much possibly because I wasent raised on it, everyone has different perspectives, and reasons ;)

[1vy]

Ye, we all know it, rap is getting worse as we speak. It used to be all good but then people started coming in with money sex and drugs and they ruined rap. However do you think that we still have a couple good rappers left?I think Lupe Fiasco and Kanye West are the pretty much only rappers left that dont talk about sex drugs or money if it doesnt have a message. I mean an example is Lupe Fiascos "Superstar"I mean the lyrics amaze me.However people like soulja boy and jim jones are ruining rap due to their gay songs.Like wtf is up with Crank dat? I mean the lyrics arent even well thought out, and a 3 year old could do the soulja boy dance.Views on this plox =D
Btw please dont come in here to holler rap sucks because it doesnt make you look cool.

I,Yes I use to be a liker of rap but that was long long time ago for some odd reason i dont actually think rap is music anymore,It's as if it has turned into a Genre called retarded poetry.I mean with Soulja boy "Super man that hoe"I mean wtf is all that about It's just turned into a I dont know what you called it A war?I mean all they sing about is mostly "Gang war's." - Eminem (Toy soldier's) Atleast there's better music still out there like metal.sad that all the stuff like johnny cash song's went i actually quite liked them i mean i like most music because i am a general music fan. Back to the topic now "Candy Shop" By 50 cent."i let you lick my lollypop"Why doesn't he just say I'll let you lick my penis because That's what he's suppose to mean isn't it?

[Abstrakt]

I,Yes I use to be a liker of rap but that was long long time ago for some odd reason i dont actually think rap is music anymore,It's as if it has turned into a Genre called retarded poetry.I mean with Soulja boy "Super man that hoe"I mean wtf is all that about It's just turned into a I dont know what you called it A war?I mean all they sing about is mostly "Gang war's." - Eminem (Toy soldier's) Atleast there's better music still out there like metal.sad that all the stuff like johnny cash song's went i actually quite liked them i mean i like most music because i am a general music fan. Back to the topic now "Candy Shop" By 50 cent."i let you lick my lollypop"Why doesn't he just say I'll let you lick my penis because That's what he's suppose to mean isn't it?

Because it's a Candy Shop, and lolipop (candy) is slang for penis regarding this song.

- Kind of self-explanatory 0.o ..

[1vy]

Yes i know but why doesn't he just say it it's as if he hasn't got the gut's to say it.

[Genryu]

TV, you think they can say that shit on TV?

[Initiate]

I,Yes I use to be a liker of rap but that was long long time ago for some odd reason i dont actually think rap is music anymore,It's as if it has turned into a Genre called retarded poetry.I mean with Soulja boy "Super man that hoe"I mean wtf is all that about It's just turned into a I dont know what you called it A war?I mean all they sing about is mostly "Gang war's." - Eminem (Toy soldier's) Atleast there's better music still out there like metal.sad that all the stuff like johnny cash song's went i actually quite liked them i mean i like most music because i am a general music fan. Back to the topic now "Candy Shop" By 50 cent."i let you lick my lollypop"Why doesn't he just say I'll let you lick my penis because That's what he's suppose to mean isn't it?

Sure rap has seen bad times but you cant give up on it, i mean just look at the true rappers : tupac, lupe fiasco, kanye west and youll see what i mean. Eminem is also a good example, for he rapped about what he believed.

[Leo]

Why do you fellas keep forgetting about Nas?

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50 used to be good until he sold out:

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What about Ice Cube?

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What about Bone Thugs 'n' Harmony?

YouTube - Bone Thugs-N-Harmony- First of the Month
YouTube - Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - Change The World (Extented Version)

Oh and, what you hear nowadays is called Hip-pop.

[Initiate]

We remember them all, at least I do and the hip hop community nowadays is SICKENING. I was having a conversation with my friend and he thinks lupe fiasco sucks just because he hasnt sold out as much as soulja boy. Thats true, oinly because we let it be. A new kid comes in claiming the title rapper and sells 10mil while lupe sends a message, hes been in the game for a while, and although hes worth something, people hate him. Nowdays to most people its all "the beat" or the gay dance that comes with it.

[Intelext]

I do rap.

Ohh, and by the way.

Hip-Hop = MC, DJ, Scratching, Graffiti...
Rap = MC, DJ.

[gumby]

I think rap is only good if it's used towards a purpose or if theres real meaning in the song, alot of rap is just made for entertainment so the rapper can get rich, and theres nothing wrong with that buisness, but rap like Immortal Technique has some real meaning in his stuff and he's not trying to get rich off it.

[Economy]

Lupe Fiasco - Shouldn't be even mentioned in this thread. He is a great artist but saying he is one of the best is a insult. Sure "The Cool" was a great album, but compared to his last album, He just stepped his game up.

Kanye West - I can understand him, He has proven everybody wrong. He has a swag of his own that is known world wide.

Jim Jones & Dipset Camp - I have every single dipset mixtape & album. It may not necessarily be good music to one person but to the people who understand them, and there struggle can relate. Honestly, coming off of a independent label and still going platinum and gold is rediculas. They are doing better then most artist signed too the major labels (Universal,Sony BMG,Def Jam,Rock`A Fella, Etc..). They also manga to stay in touch with there roots, And support the people who supported them when they were just starting out. Dipset is entertaining, Juelz is a beast on the mic, Camron Is a beast, 40 Cal, Freeky, Hell Rell, Jr. Basically there whole camp is sick. They bring that swagga that new york's been needing since jay fell off. They were the ones stepping up too the plate keeping ny alive.

Nas - Hands down one of the greatest rappers to date. Need i say more?

Jay Z - Same with nas.

Wu Tang - One of the best groups to bless the mic. But they fell off.

I am not going to go into detail about the rappers who have passed away. Or fell off.
But saying rap is dead because they talk about sex, drugs, money is ignorant. Thats like telling sombody not to talk about what they know. One of the best rock musicians of all time, Bret micheals talks about sex on tour, Drugs, and having sex with hot girls just as much as the next rap artist does but when it comes to bret its good music? Im not going to lie hip hop hasnt been the same in a while, Between record sales, and beef. But hip hop wouldnt be hip hop without The soulja boys, The dj unks, the T.i's The Ludacris, Id prefer hip hop over rock n roll anyday because I grew up around it my whole life And i understand them. Of course sombody who grew up around rock n roll is gonna like rock n roll. You just dont all of a sudden start liking somthing period.

More later, gotta go cook a hot pocket.

[CrownC]

I agree with Economy. Except for Lupe, I can't stand him.

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=iW7Yi5vnJa0

[WeveOrWevo]

I prefer old school rap, i.e: big daddy kane, marley marl, run dmc, mc hammer, public enemy. And yeap, you're right this music is getting crappy now, all they seem to talk about is getting laid and money, that's what you call bad music, it's better when the artist makes it original and they actually talk about life, and not about screwing a bitch.