Exploring a retro Habbo client (a possible transition in development for retros)

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Originally Posted by HillBilly

Yes but why wasting time on that?

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Because there are still people here that cares about the community.

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Originally Posted by HillBilly

Everything we do to bypass Sulakes' security he probably patch it.

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So, you are actually saying he doesn't do a fuck at work (if he's working at Sulake)? Just because nothing has changed over the past years about the encryption and such...

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Originally Posted by Joopie

So, you are actually saying he doesn't do a fuck at work (if he's working at Sulake)? Just because nothing has changed over the past years about the encryption and such...

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Nothing to stop us from developing Retros. Yes.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to flame or bring any controversy or anything in that matter - But I think you all are just stupid, what is the point in just editing the client files, images, and UI and claim it as your own work. Don't get me started on the fact that it won't make your game legal at all, Sulake doesn't only just copyright their images - they copyright their intellectual work which includes their code (In the SWFs, and client files) - So rethink guys.. Rethink!

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Originally Posted by HillBilly

Everything we do to bypass Sulakes' security he probably patch it.

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Dominic working at Sulake has no correlation with the speed of patches implemented by them.
They keep tabs on this section and those who find exploits.

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Originally Posted by PixelPro123

Well, as long as you use your own images, literally editing every single pixelated image there is on Habbo, then Sulake can't really warn you to shut down your hotel because you aren't using their copyrighted images, but ofcourse you'll have to design your own UI, so in a way you're making something different to Habbo yet using their elements.

And yes, this sort of discussion always happens, but people always fail, mostly because they don't have the motivation to do it. I've seen a lot of people attempting this but none has ever succeeded.

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My post is mainly referred to this.

To be honest, that would be a complete waste of time. You're better off completely starting from scratch and making your own game. I understand where you're coming from, but seriously making Habbo with different images is stupid. It just won't be Habbo anymore, and it will look dumb most likely. It could be pulled off, but what I'm saying is why risk the possibility of doing all that work and Sulake still claiming it was stolen from them when you can just do a whole new game by yourself which is essentially what you'd be doing anyway. Hell, at this point, if someone from this section made a new MMORPG similar to Habbo, but not Habbo. I would play it, simple as that. I guarantee you that you could get many other people to play it as well. If Habbo were smart, they would do something similar to MineCraft and allow private servers that were bought from them. They could sell them for a decent amount of money and make a fortune most likely. I mean think about it, it would be the smartest thing they could do at this point. All of their users are so f***ing interested in playing private servers, they'd make a fortune.

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Originally Posted by Reverb

I'm sorry, I don't mean to flame or bring any controversy or anything in that matter - But I think you all are just stupid, what is the point in just editing the client files, images, and UI and claim it as your own work. Don't get me started on the fact that it won't make your game legal at all, Sulake doesn't only just copyright their images - they copyright their intellectual work which includes their code (In the SWFs, and client files) - So rethink guys.. Rethink!

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The topic was actually the creation of your own SWF files, not editing the current ones. No one gives a crap about owning a legal hotel.

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Originally Posted by Reverb

I'm sorry, I don't mean to flame or bring any controversy or anything in that matter - But I think you all are just stupid, what is the point in just editing the client files, images, and UI and claim it as your own work. Don't get me started on the fact that it won't make your game legal at all, Sulake doesn't only just copyright their images - they copyright their intellectual work which includes their code (In the SWFs, and client files) - So rethink guys.. Rethink!

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Pretty sure you're not the first to mention this. I kind of find it offending that you broadly say "you are all stupid". Quite frankly that is not the case because there are many talented people in this section that can do more then you. Maybe, just maybe, you should re-think before you post. We all know that it's illegal, there's threads about it everyday in this section. Just be careful about what you post, empathy my friend, empathy.

I think the idea is really cool but you need to make sure it's still the same idea of the game - you can create your own chat rooms and play games with friends.

Also, if you're looking for pixel artists to help design custom characters please message me. We have a great team of designers creating amazing things for an upcoming retro of ours.

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Originally Posted by Reverb

I'm sorry, I don't mean to flame or bring any controversy or anything in that matter - But I think you all are just stupid, what is the point in just editing the client files, images, and UI and claim it as your own work. Don't get me started on the fact that it won't make your game legal at all, Sulake doesn't only just copyright their images - they copyright their intellectual work which includes their code (In the SWFs, and client files) - So rethink guys.. Rethink!

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Wuut?

They didn't copyright their idea. If you can create an own .SWF from scratch without using codes/images from Sulake, they can't sue you.
Google can't blame people if they make their own search machine / youtube variant from scratch as long as they don't steal copyrighted materials.

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Originally Posted by Tha

Wuut?

They didn't copyright their idea. If you can create an own .SWF from scratch without using codes/images from Sulake, they can't sue you.
Google can't blame people if they make their own search machine / youtube variant from scratch as long as they don't steal copyrighted materials.

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I didn't say the SWF was copyrighted by them, but their codes are. They coded the SWFs themselves, which what makes Habbo work - thus being their IP. The idea of this thread states that the main purpose is to edit the SWFs, although Sulake will still own the IP & Copyrights to the SWFs if the Habbo SWFs are used in any way shape or form - by that I mean their code. This is a pointless topic to talk about IMO, it's either you all continue to rip Sulake/Habbo - and continue this illegal phenomenon or maybe instead of saying this, and that about editing Habbo's IP, create a game of your own. In my opinion, it's not worth all the work put into retros, it really isn't..

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Originally Posted by Reverb

I didn't say the SWF was copyrighted by them, but their codes are. They coded the SWFs themselves, which what makes Habbo work - thus being their IP. The idea of this thread states that the main purpose is to edit the SWFs, although Sulake will still own the IP & Copyrights to the SWFs if the Habbo SWFs are used in any way shape or form - by that I mean their code. This is a pointless topic to talk about IMO, it's either you all continue to rip Sulake/Habbo - and continue this illegal phenomenon or maybe instead of saying this, and that about editing Habbo's IP, create a game of your own. In my opinion, it's not worth all the work put into retros, it really isn't..

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Create a game of your own != retro

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Originally Posted by Reverb

I didn't say the SWF was copyrighted by them, but their codes are. They coded the SWFs themselves, which what makes Habbo work - thus being their IP. The idea of this thread states that the main purpose is to edit the SWFs, although Sulake will still own the IP & Copyrights to the SWFs if the Habbo SWFs are used in any way shape or form - by that I mean their code. This is a pointless topic to talk about IMO, it's either you all continue to rip Sulake/Habbo - and continue this illegal phenomenon or maybe instead of saying this, and that about editing Habbo's IP, create a game of your own. In my opinion, it's not worth all the work put into retros, it really isn't..

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Well, I might create my own game if I'm done with my studies. It'll be like Habbo but different. Something like that I've seen already (but don't know the name anymore). It's better to do that than continue being illegal and maybe let Sulake shut down your VPS... bye bye money!