As we see Sulake has become more active when it comes to taking down Habbo retros, isn't it now time for way more improved anonymity? But how much is necessary?
Here you can for example see my network.
Frotpage:
< US DDOS Protection > < Romania > < German Server >
Client:
< Romanian DDOS Protection > < German Server >
You think this will do?
Not safe. I pay 400€ for my server in Romania and this includes 120 Gbps shared protection.
So my network would be something like this;
<Romania>
And I also bought my server directly from Voxility so I feel much more safe then using a reseller. If you use some of these small proxy protection companies and they get a serious complaint from Sulake they would just send your private information right away.
Send me a message if you would like my server IP.
You could also try a VPN, or go round on 'illegal download sites' for anonymous vps's.
I dont know really if this all makes sense!? Maybe Sulake can contact your advertisement company (for example adsense)to get details out of the person. Is this possible? Or they get the details out from a vip payment with paypal?! I know that all people want to make money out of retros so :)
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The only way to hide your ass is to stop this bullshit..
Ip protection isnt everything to get your details.
Domain registration, vip payment, ads etc.
You could just stop.
Like others have said. The only way is to not do it. Now I'm not gonna jump on the fear monger band wagon and go "You'll slip up soon" but you are taking a risk. You can hide behind whatever server host in whatever country. You personally can not hide and you can not hide from the courts or the law. If you seriously want to continue hosting a habbo retro then do something of the following:
Remove all habbo content from your website and make your own CMS. With this make it invite only and manually accept new members. Ensure they aren't using a VPN/proxy service and are registering with a legitimate email. Use bitcoins to send payments for your services (domain, dedicated server etc..) and only accept that payment method on your website. However, with this system very few members would join. The habbo community is predominantly young teenagers who just about get by using Facebook and Youtube on their low grade laptops.
If legality of what you're doing becomes an issue evaluate what you're doing and ask yourself is Habbo really worth or this stress and trouble, for a dead-end community and a bit of pocket money every month?
The only way out of it, is to not do it. That's the only 100% safe way of getting out of it. They're not looking for people who did do it, they're now looking for people to STOP doing it.
Your information will be retrieved by them some how or some way. There is no way to own a Habbo Retro without having some information about yourself, somewhere that will ultimately lead them to you. Whether it's in PayPal, PayGol, AdSense, AdDynamo, payments, domain registration, VPS payments, etc.
The only way around that would be to get all that without giving any information. That's impossible no matter how you look at it. You know it, I know it, we all know it.
Why are people trying to runaway from the laws? It's not really as bad as people are making it out to be. Acting like slaves and what not.
"When Sulake come from Habboland, let my releases go!"
The only advice I can give you if you want to host this game and avoid sulake from discovering your ass is to change the game completely. But then that would mean everything has to be open source in order to edit, change, ansd remove unecessary functions which are not needed. But then this would also mean you have to know the languages you will be working with or atleast learn it while your working on it. It is not about just changing the codes, but changing how the games looks. By doing that you would have to create or find some type of decompiler that can retrieve the source and images of the .swf extension files which is not difficult. Learning some photoshop skills will be necessary if you do not want your game to look like habbo. Most importantly having the open source emulator is a must because it is the main back bone that supports the emulation with interacting with your website and sql db. While this might sound like a lot of work because it is, but in the end, the results will be satisfying and worry free.
Take the retro to a next level and it wont be a retro any more.
What OP is asking for is good techniques/strategies to hide away from Sulake. It is already obvious OP knows that hosting retros is illegal. To everyone else who says "just stop": Really? You don't think we knew this was illegal? We copy Sulake's stuff and put them on our own server which is obviously copyright infringement.
Back on-topic:
What I would suggest would to get a server in a country where there is no corruption or any copyright laws, if that existed.
Not only server. Your domain, yourself, your payment service.Originally Posted by maritnmine
If you've got that much cash to burn to pay those ridiculous server charges to run poorly engineered / imitations then you're quite clearly retarded.
Unless one improves the functionality of the poorly written engineered imitations and does have money to burn then I'd say why not give it a shot lol.
I'm not telling anyone it's illegal. Everyone knows it's illegal, but everyone thinks "meh, I won't get caught. Come on, how can they find me? I'm a nobody."
Well yeah, but my point is if you got nothing useful to contribute with, then why post? It's like going on stackoverflow and tell people not to code to avoid their coding issues.
Put your server in international farewater, then you're good to go. That's the only real way to avoid any laws. (But you risk that North-Korea can destroy your server with one of their rockets, or Sulake hire them)
OK.
1. John lives in USA.
2. John's server is in Zimbabwe or North-Korea or wherever.
3. Sulake sue John in USA
4. The end.
You didn't say that though. ;)
My point is, people keep complaining about getting caught and asking how to not get caught. There's really no way to not get caught other than to not do it. The fact is you're putting a server online for the public on the Internet for anyone including Sulake to find (it's not like they don't have computers). Want to not get caught? Make it private.
Hit the nail, there.
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