Is it worth it to create a private server? [Discussion]

[ChiefKeefSosa]

Hello Folks, i am back after thirteen thousand years of inactivity. Well, im not sure how long it has been since i left but i think i had my servers in 2011, 2012, yes... 2011 and 2012. Well, it wasn't that bad... Never been an expert with the codingz, never been really smart in these PS things but it was cool to own a server and stuff, had about 20-30 online players in a good day, think the max i had was about... 50. Well, cant complain...

The thing is, i come back after fourteen thousand years of inactivity, i check gtop and... It seems as dead as the Sahara desert... . Well, cant say i was surprised but look who's up in the 1st place with 1,5k online players? Extalia.. Its incredible how they managed to keep their stablity and community and were able to renew theirselves while everyone else went to shit. They had about 1,5k/2k players back in 2012. But the sad things are all the other servers. Technically the first 5 seem stable and with players... I would extend these 5 to 10. Yes, maybe 10 servers are stable and have what i would consider, enough players to sustain theirselves... Unfortunately, the rest of them are dead with about 5 players online, or 8, or not even that... The problem is that back in the days, the servers that were ranked as 30/40th could easily have 40 players online, now they dont even exist...

Ok, we can reach the conclusion that a lot of people left, it was a phase, its a part of growing up, bla bla bla. My question is, is it worth it to create a private server? What does it need to have to sneak into those still active servers and fight with them? Will people join? Or would it just be another failed effort?

Let's discuss, old friends.

Btw: Have you wondered how much money Extalia made all these years? My guess would be... 2million US DOLLARS

[MentaL]

[greenelfx]

Depends what your goals are. If you're trying to rake in money from donations, then I'd say it's not worth it (mostly because I look down upon servers that are only in it for the money). If you're looking to learn how to program in Java, use a Linux server, etc., then yes, it will always be worth it!

[ChiefKeefSosa]

Depends what your goals are. If you're trying to rake in money from donations, then I'd say it's not worth it (mostly because I look down upon servers that are only in it for the money). If you're looking to learn how to program in Java, use a Linux server, etc., then yes, it will always be worth it!

Well, technically im in it for both of these things... But what i mean is, will i get players online?

Lol i remember how hard it was to make my first PS

[ALotOfPosts]

You won't make much money for sure. Your efforts are better spent working at a minimum wage job unless you are a skilled developer already in which case this wouldn't have been asked and you would still be better off doing another job. I'd hazard a guess that you're in this for the money (which isn't going to be made) and not so much for learning to program. If you wanted to code, then there's a lot of better things to do it on, such as developing a small android app. That has real world utility and you will learn a lot from it.

[ChiefKeefSosa]

You won't make much money for sure. Your efforts are better spent working at a minimum wage job unless you are a skilled developer already in which case this wouldn't have been asked and you would still be better off doing another job. I'd hazard a guess that you're in this for the money (which isn't going to be made) and not so much for learning to program. If you wanted to code, then there's a lot of better things to do it on, such as developing a small android app. That has real world utility and you will learn a lot from it.

Ima be real with you. Yea, the money interests me. But i know that its not going to be thousands like before, but the thing is, im looking to get some money so i could get up a business, you know... life is hard. But i also want to build a community like i had before, hopefully find my old buddies. And yeah, develop my skills aswell.

But mainly for the Ben Franklins. $.$.

Edit: Whats your guess on how much Extalia made?

But yea developing a small android app sounds good, but i have a lot to learn, then money can be made. I want to make alot of money like flappy bird.

[Saii]

everybody wants to make a lot of money like flappy bird.
it looks like its so simple and BAM billions.
did you know that most famous games like angry birds have released plenty of games besides the famous ones? it's not as easy as it seems.
besides, this is coding too. you can't succeed if you can't properly code your server, which brings me to my next point.
the time you will spend on learning and coding everything is better spent on a fulltime job if money is your interest.

I spent a year(I think), since Lithium rev96 was first released(August 2012), with zero knowledge about private servers to make a complete source, and by complete I mean everything you could possibly think of, but by the time it was done the version was obsolete. look at MoopleDev. it take ridiculous amount of time to have something like Extalia.

I do think its a lot of fun, you can learn a bit from it and if you do open a server in the end you will see how others enjoy your effort.(which is a great feeling).
but it doesn't pay, so if that's what you're looking for, better get a job.

[ChiefKeefSosa]

everybody wants to make a lot of money like flappy bird.
it looks like its so simple and BAM billions.
did you know that most famous games like angry birds have released plenty of games besides the famous ones? it's not as easy as it seems.
besides, this is coding too. you can't succeed if you can't properly code your server, which brings me to my next point.
the time you will spend on learning and coding everything is better spent on a fulltime job if money is your interest.



I spent a year(I think), since Lithium rev96 was first released(August 2012), with zero knowledge about private servers to make a complete source, and by complete I mean everything you could possibly think of, but by the time it was done the version was obsolete. look at MoopleDev. it take ridiculous amount of time to have something like Extalia.

I do think its a lot of fun, you can learn a bit from it and if you do open a server in the end you will see how others enjoy your effort.(which is a great feeling).
but it doesn't pay, so if that's what you're looking for, better get a job.

Yeah... we have to admit that Flappy Bird was pure luck. A stupid game that only God knows why became a trend.

But i see where you're comming from, forget the job dude, where i live you cant even get a job with fourteen or sixty seven degrees, lol. I was able to make a significant amount of money with my shity server and... without any coding knowledge. But yes, i think you're right and wrong. Fuck getting a job, if you spend an year coding you gain permanent knowledge, with a great idea... and a lot of luck, you can turn that into a lot of money. But going back to MS, yes... it takes ridiculous amount of time to have something like Extalia... But you cant denie it pays off. While we talk, the owner of the server must be driving his Bentley on his way to a strip club. So yeah, it pays off... Hard work pays off.

Do you have any advices/guides on how to get started? Still wondering if ill open up a server or not tho.

[sunnyboy]

imo, it used to be, but now, no.

[Shmoconut]

I think you are 3-4 years late for monetizing a Maplestory private server. If this was 3-4 years ago and you were at the top of the community in terms of programming ability, then you may have been able to earn money, depending on your dedication.
Now it is just not worth the effort, especially if you do not have the technical knowledge to understand what it takes to compete with mature servers like Extalia.
The hundreds or thousands of hours you would spend on developing a competitive Maplestory server would be better spent working on a more practical codebase and eventually creating something original.

[Saii]

Yeah... we have to admit that Flappy Bird was pure luck. A stupid game that only God knows why became a trend.

But i see where you're comming from, forget the job dude, where i live you cant even get a job with fourteen or sixty seven degrees, lol. I was able to make a significant amount of money with my shity server and... without any coding knowledge. But yes, i think you're right and wrong. Fuck getting a job, if you spend an year coding you gain permanent knowledge, with a great idea... and a lot of luck, you can turn that into a lot of money. But going back to MS, yes... it takes ridiculous amount of time to have something like Extalia... But you cant denie it pays off. While we talk, the owner of the server must be driving his Bentley on his way to a strip club. So yeah, it pays off... Hard work pays off.

Do you have any advices/guides on how to get started? Still wondering if ill open up a server or not tho.

yes but you see, you can learn how to code android apps, or even make your own game, which is eventually more beneficial, both for knowledge and for money.

to get started pick up some guides on Java learn all the basics, learn about packets and how the server works.
when you think you are ready pick up a source and work on it.

[ALotOfPosts]

Hard work pays off. You can put that work in real life and succeed more than you can making a server. That's all I'm saying. I did own a server in the past and it was pretty popular and well known. Giving the name away would be dumb but it did reach high in the gtop100 rankings. Extalia is not catchable unless you have some skills and too much free time. With the time you spend just catching up to Extalia in terms of content you could have probably created a small game yourself. In the time spent to catch up to RMZero servers and Extalia in developer skill level you probably could have gotten a bachelor's degree. You're way too late to the party. If you wanted a server for money you should have been here in 2008-2011. It's hardly even a good place to learn coding now too. The coding you learn won't pertain to the game much. The most many people learn here is just basic commands and NPC scripting which is almost 0 use for the real world

[ChiefKeefSosa]

You're way too late to the party. If you wanted a server for money you should have been here in 2008-2011.

I'm afraid this is true... I guess there's no going back then. Should've have never left.

[TheIceBreaker]

Considering that anything below Top 7 on GTOP is just a shit server slap together by a random gives you a decent shot.

If you are one of those people, no offense if you are, then you shouldn't be expecting any money at all. However, if your just looking for coding experience while having fun then why not. The best way to gain players without knowing any knowledge of coding is by how you present yourself, and how well you control the community. If you are a nice person, with a decent staff, and a warming/welcoming community: you get a decent player base. Not saying it going to be up in the hundreds, but you can around 100 for sure. The problem is people lack creativity, motivation, and some sadly... lack a brain.

[Awakens]

Coming into it with the mindset of making money will get you nowhere, unless you have the skills to back you up.. Your post would indicate otherwise. You may want to look into alternative sources of making money.

[ChiefKeefSosa]

Coming into it with the mindset of making money will get you nowhere, unless you have the skills to back you up.. Your post would indicate otherwise. You may want to look into alternative sources of making money.

Actually, i strongly disagree. The mindset of making money is what gets you to making money.

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Considering that anything below Top 7 on GTOP is just a shit server slap together by a random gives you a decent shot.

If you are one of those people, no offense if you are, then you shouldn't be expecting any money at all. However, if your just looking for coding experience while having fun then why not. The best way to gain players without knowing any knowledge of coding is by how you present yourself, and how well you control the community. If you are a nice person, with a decent staff, and a warming/welcoming community: you get a decent player base. Not saying it going to be up in the hundreds, but you can around 100 for sure. The problem is people lack creativity, motivation, and some sadly... lack a brain.

A 100 is too much. You get a hundred if you have a nice coded server along with a cool community. I knew a guy like that, every time he re-opened the old players would come all over again, and he'd make more than 200/400$ everyday. How cool is that? Pretty cool