Cpu and ram are fine,Quote:
Originally Posted by WulfgarXX
Only videocard could be better.
I don't think you can run it maxed.
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Cpu and ram are fine,Quote:
Originally Posted by WulfgarXX
Only videocard could be better.
I don't think you can run it maxed.
Basicly 8600's are crap, they really are, should've spend your money on a high end last gen card, as you get a much better card, and considering those cards can't handle the DX10 futures, it really has no use to have a DX10 card. (it's like having a formula 1 car model with a scooter engine in it)
There you are wrong GohanSSJ, the XFX 8600GT Does very well handle DX10.
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[url=http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1082/5/page_5_xfx_8600gt_the_card/index.html]Gigabyte and XFX
yeah see everyone keeps saying the 8600 is crap... Ive got an 8600GTS and it runs all games on max settings... bioshock at well over 40fps with max settings (will admit i cant have max resolution but everything else i can).Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Was playing crysis at max graphics last night.... It's not the smoothest framerate in the world but its certainly playable and i dont have an 8600 on SLI so quite honestly i dont know what everyones on about. Feel free to lay into them if you really feel the need but all i know is my friends 7950GTX card wasent running as well as this and that doesent have dx10 as well (which in all honesty actually makes games run even better as well as look better from what ive seen).
The next card up is the 8800 360mb... that was almost double the price of the 8600GTS.... Why not just buy two of the GTS cards and SLI them for the same money it costs to buy a single 8800 low end? i know ram isnt everything, but christ 1gb of combined memory has got to be an improvement on 360mb!
Havent seen any info it not being able to handle future DX10 content so i cant really comment on that. All i know is that from what ive seen of it so far its more than powerfull enough to play most games!
Same for me, I play bioshock at 1280x1024 and everything at max settings with a 8600GTS. The GTS was far better than the GT, so the GT might be bad but for me GTS runs pretty smooth :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Solares
For comparison i will take the top 8600, the GTS and compare it with one of the best ATI last gen card of the same price.
So the comparison is between the 8600 GTS ( G ) at 157 euro and a X1950XT ( A ) for 155, i will use tests taken on Toms Hardware at settings at 1600x1200, 4xAA and 8xAF.
Battlefield 2142 -15,3 FPS
G - 20,4 FPS
A - 35,7 FPS
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic -19,8 FPS
G - 9,6 FPS
A - 29,4 FPS
Doom 3 -32 FPS
G - 36,6 FPS
A - 68,6 FPS
Microsoft Flight Simulator +4 FPS
G - 19,4 FPS
A - 15,4 FPS
The Elders Scrolls 4: Oblivion -5,6 FPS
G - 11,4 FPS
A - 17 FPS
Prey -17,3 FPS
G - 23,9 FPS
A - 41,2 FPS
Warhammer: Mark of Chaos -10,9 FPS
G - 18 FPS
A - 28,9 FPS
3DMark 06 SM3.0 -375 points
G - 907 points
A - 1282 points
It should be pretty obvious that the card that costs even slightly less, does perform better. So like i, and many others, have said, the 8600 is crap. That doesn't mean it can't run games well, it just means that there are better cards to spend your money on.
Btw i used all tests that were done there, i didn't pick the ones in which the ATI did better, i simply used them all.
meh.... well its got dx10 so its better... lol
was worth it in my opinion....
Well, as you said Solares, SLI gotta perform better, right? xD
What is the use that your card can read high end technology, when it's to slow to actually make use of it? Fact is that the ATI card will get you a better picture, wether you use DX10 or not.
And SLI makes the 8600's all the sudden better? You think 2 8600's would be better then 2 X1950XT's? Because i know they won't.Quote:
Well, as you said Solares, SLI gotta perform better, right? xD
The fact is that the only reason these cards are selling is because people want DX10, and because the 8600 is a decent gaming card, people just assume it's better then all the cards that came before, but that's not true, and in almost all cases the ATI does beat the 8600, making the 8600 a failure for it's price, and it's a failure as a DX10 card, if you can't use even close to all the DX9 stuff, then how do you want to add the DX10 stuff?
It's a shame, it could have been more, the 7600GT was a nice card for it's price, but because it had no real new technology (the 7 series wasn't that different from the 6 series in terms of technology and even speed to a certain degree), but the 8600's does, and thus it has the same problems as the 6600's had, it has the technology, but it doesn't have the power to use it. The 6600's were i believe the lowest Shadermodel 3 cards, but it was far to weak to use SM3 settings, unless you sacrificed so much that the game looked crap, so only the higher end 6800's were able to actually properly use SM3.
Now i do say this, 2 of those will allow you to get some more out of it, but i would still never have chosen that, i would have either went for a single high end card, or 2 last gen high end cards.
I can see your point gohan.... i just think your being a little harsh to it. Allot of reviewers also say the same sorta things you are.... infact one of the main reasons they are giving it a pretty good rating is because of the HD something or other settings (im not that bothered about it tho tbh).
As far as the DX10 thing goes.... as i said b4. Games seem to run better with the DX10 shaders switched on. Have been playing world in conflict for a while and that ran well without DX10 but when i switched it on it not only looked better but played better. Thats prolly something to do with the fact that vista was designed for dx10 tho (apparently).
Either way... im happy with the card and even tho you say i should have gone for a last gen card for the same money.... im happy with this just because of the dx10 feature and the fact that it still performs well. Yes i would have wanted an 8800 320mb card more.... but when it costs almost double the amount..... well i not only couldent afford it but couldent warrent buying it.
I'm guessing the HD you are talking about is the HDMI port, which was missing on the ATI's, Nvidia did however include it on the 7950GT (and perhaps other cards that came after it, but i kinda tuned out from the videocards around that time)